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Buying Advice Needed - 5680 vs Ultralight Laptop + Desktop for the same Price

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Help me out here. I wanted a 5680 untill today, and would like some advice -

Here’s the problem - I’ve budgeted about $2100 for a Sager 5680. Today’s New York Times had an ad for a laptop at Staples that was $900 for an Athlon 1800 with 256 megs of ram and IT WEIGHS 4.1 POUNDS. That weight difference will mean that I will carry the machine to a lot more places than the 9 or so pound 5680. And the battery will last longer.

Further, this will leave me with $1200 to spend on a desktop machine.

My 600 mhz machine is okay for my current uses, so the Athlon laptop would be a lot faster than what I need as a bare minimum. It’d let me do video editing on the road with the software I use today. And a $1200 desktop will support new video editing stuff like real-time previewing and rendering. It’ll come with a DVD burner. It’ll come with TWO optical drives, to make copying compact disks very simple. It’ll let me toss in another hard drive when I need to. All I lose is the ability to plug my current external CRT into the 5680 for the massive screen space that makes editing video easier.

And it’ll guarantee me the ability to upgrade my video card in a year to get something that’ll just rock with Doom 3.

So,
1 - Should I get a Sager 5680, or a lightweight laptop and a desktop?
2 - Does Sager make a 4.1 pound sub $1000 machine that I could buy as my cheap laptop?

---matt
post #2 of 7
You sound confused... or I am confused.

Do you NEED a desktop replacement or an ultra-lite mobile / temp solution?

Do you want to do NLE DV editing on the 5680 or a desktop? You need to clarify your needs before you can get some advice from us.

Sounds like you only need a "quick-fix" for mobility, and a power-house for a stationary. In which case, I'd say go for the cheap-o AMD notebook and go ahead and buy that monster $1200 desktop system...

-myrkat

PS: Sager doesn't make a light or cheap notebook.
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by myrkat
You sound confused... or I am confused.

Do you NEED a desktop replacement or an ultra-lite mobile / temp solution?
I need to replace my desktop and I need a mobile solution. I'm not sure if I need to accomplish both tasks with the same machine - though the 5680 will let me do that.

I'm just looking for advice is all. How many of you with monster sagers use them as real portables? How many find life easier with one machine and no need to sync files between home and the road?

---matt
post #4 of 7
I use my 5670 as a full desktop replacement, and I LOVE it! I can stay at my desk, move to the couch, lie down, whatever -- it works anywhere. Furthermore, I travel for business one week each month and this thing trots along on the plane and wherever I go -- it isn't too heavy for that. Having two computers when this one does the work of both would just be too cumbersome -- I can't think of any reason to do it, and having to keep moving files around would be a pain in the neck! Unless you intend to take long hikes or something with your ultralight, I would vote to simplify your life and get just one computer that does it all....
post #5 of 7

Similar Situation

I'm in almost the same exact position as the person that started this thread. Up until today, I was positive I was going for the Sager 5680. However, I made the idiotic move of walking into a custom PC shop the other day. The PC's were insane, and I could get a hooked up a desktop setup for about a hundred or two hundred more (With 17” or 19” LCD monitor) then the Sager. However, everything about the 5680 seems appealing to me. There are times when my upstairs computer area gets very hot, and the A/C doesn’t cut it. At that point, it would be nice to use my system downstairs where I can hook it up.

So, maybe some friendly forum dwellers can help me out here. I don’t really need maximum portability, it would just be nice every now and then. Especially when I need to show my band some things on the computer (Logos, banners, flyers, etc.). Also, I have to do another History Day project this year, so if I need to take info with me, the laptop would work great. Not to mention, I can bring along a copy of Half-Life 2 once we..You know, “work” on the project. So, here are some specs for you to see.

5680:

Display: UXGA Wide Angle 1600x1200 LCD
Processor: 3.0 GHZ/800MHZ FSB with Hyper-Threading
Video Card: Radeon 9600 Pro /w 128 MB Video RAM
Hard Drive: 60 Gig 7,200 RPM
RAM: 512 Mb. 400DDR Dual Channel (2x256)
Media Drive: 8x DVD-ROM/24X10X24 CD-RW Combo Drive
Operating System: Windows XP: Professional
3.5” Floppy
Battery: Lithium Ion/2nd battery for Modular Bay
Case: Black Business case (Standard)
Warranty: One Year/Lifetime Tech Support
Price: 2,403

Price with one Gig of RAM: 2,569.51

Custom Desktop:

Display: To Be Decided, either a 17” or 19” LCD, possibly a 19” CRT
Processor: 3.0 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading
Video Card: Radeon 9800 Pro with 256 MB Video RAM
Hard Drive: 80 gig 7,200 RPM (Western Digital)
RAM: 1 Gig 400DDR Dual Channel (2x512)
Media Drive: 16x DVD
Media Drive 2: 52x32x52 CD-RW
Operating System: Windows XP: Professional
Case: 21” Aluminum V2000A /w clear panel
LED Fan: Blue
Microsoft Keyboard
Logitech MX500 Mouse
Antec Lansing 5.1 (5 piece speaker set with Subwoofer)
Warranty: One Year

Price: (Without monitor)- 2,390
post #6 of 7
First of all, I think LivingFree has a very good point... depending upon one's needs, a "desktop replacement" laptop is an ideal solution: if you are not really "that" mobile, yet you don't like to be confined to the same desk/space to compute/game/whatever, then a Sager (or other?) desktop replacement is a good investment.

However, if you travel a lot and only need to look important or do miniscule little work (like word / excel / etc) then an ultra-light / base-station combo might be right.

Then there's the folkes who are mezmorized with desktop machines and the various mods... they are nice looking, especially in person, but they are "anchors" - meaning it ain't easy to move them, should you ever need to.

I think the desktop system that Tamashii listed is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for the parts shown. Especially as it was "w/o monitor" I think even an AlienWare setup would look competative with that (and they aren't too cheap).

Still, to each his own; with that, I would only emphasize what LivingFree was getting at: evaluate your needs and see if you can avoid the "two computer" syndrome. Not only is it expensive, but it can be a hassle when it comes time to synching things.

-myrkat
post #7 of 7
I am working on a desktop that was about 600 cheaper than the one listed above and my specs are much better. Note: It is an alienware as well.

I would have to say that for people who will walk with a laptop more than use it they need a ultra-light solution. To anyone else get the desktop replacement because it will be powerful and mobile. Personally I use my desktops for media center and DVD editing, but I use laptops for a few games, DVDs, and other entertainment related things. The only reason I even have a desktop is because it is a pain to hook a lappy up to my tv, sat, and sound system every time I leave the house with it (every day). Only you can decide what is best for you situation, but people here can be very good at pointing you in the right direction. Good Luck.

Brandon
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