Originally Posted by tomgreen
Not a real expert on motherboards, but I do know a lot about host controllers for various buses, and I was completely underwhelmed by what came on my machine, USB controller, Firewire, PC Card, are all very much on my B or C lists. Not sure what the Firewire is (I need to look at the VID/PID), but I suspect I know at this point. I am sure in these cases they are probably tied to what the motherboard vendor puts on it. Other than the case for the notebook, I found the whole thing unspectacular across the board, and the audio is just awful, can't believe they would ship that on an "Audio" notebook. I guess I'm not getting it, because given the number of companies that do this, it really doesn't impress me that you can throw a bunch of desktop components in a big ass case and claim you are delivering a Porsche. I am actually much more impressed currently with the new Dell gaming machine. A gaming machine with a more reasonable weight and battery life seems way more interesting as a sign of solid engineering. In the case of my Ozma it really seems like they did little if any actual research into what would make a good audio notebook, they just took their aging gaming machine and relabled it as an Audio notebok. The machine in no way came with even basic configuration changes to support audio recording. Anyway, as mentioned I bought my son one of those XPS's so I guess I'm one of those idiots. I'll try and dig into device manager this week, but given past experience with Dell, I am assuming I will be happier with their choices on the host controller side.
Hammerhead, I just noticed the thread about your medical issues, and glad things are going better at this point. Your sense of humor about everything is inspiring, and your story certainly puts things into perspective. Also noticed you are a fellow Washington resident, I'm a Redmond resident myself, been here 9 years and I really like the Northwest, great place to live. At any rate best wishes to you and your wife, and I'm so happy to hear things are going better.
Thanks for your well wishes on my health situation, I appreciate it.
I recently asked for a second opinion from a cancer clinic in Seattle, and they reclassified my tumor to a stage 2, so I'm looking at eight months of chemotherapy now when I thought I was done with treatment...
It's a mixed blessing... With the chemo, I have a better chance of them getting everything, so that's good, but it'll be a pain to deal with for a while....
I'm not familiar with the Ozma system, or what's available out there for audio editing, so all I can say is it's never good to hear someone that isn't happy with their system. I hope you eventually get the thing optimized for your use and your opinion changes for the positive. That's a lot of money to spend on something you're not happy with.
I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the Dell once you get into the bios and see what is, and isn't adjustable. I do know that the XPS is the top of the line system Dell sells, so it would be interesting to hear what you can find out about the motherboard..
And of course the "idiots" comment was a little tongue in cheek. Dell does make some nice laptops, and if I needed inexpensive systems for my office, or a less finicky system for my kid, I'd consider Dell too.
However, if you're looking for the top echelon of gaming systems that use fully functional hardware throughout the system, Dell performance just doesn't match that of AW, FN, or Voodoo for that matter for the same configuration.
Right now though, you can only get the ATi 9800 in the Dell laptop, so Dell holding the industry hostage seems to be working out for them. I'm personally disappointed in ATi for not getting a version of their card that works in other gaming notebooks with standard motherboards, but this tactic is exactly what I've come to expect from Dell. This isn't the first sweetheart deal between Dell and ATi though. And I'm sure the bulk of ATi's income comes from Dell... It's just too bad that Dell doesn't feel it can compete, so they need to get exclusives to sell their crap.
Dell has tens of billions of dollars of income in a year, much more than Alienware's $150-$200 million a year, so if they truly wanted to build a machine that would compete, they could. And you'd better believe ATi would love to see their components in machines that allow it to perform to it's limits.
Dell just doesn't want to compete fairly. And with people settling for the XPS and rewarding Dell's bully behavior, I guess from a business perspective they have no reason to compete fairly. But from the perspective of someone that's benefitted from the competition in the PC gaming arena, I think Dell's behavior is bad for gaming in general. It's not at all unreasonable to think that someday, the only gaming system we may be able to buy would be a Dell. With competition, Dell refuses to use a good motherboard, do you think without competition Dell would put out any extra effort to make a better machine?
I wonder what that XPS could really do if it had a quality Asus motherboard in it?