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post #41 of 198
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Originally Posted by thecommish16
lol mommy and daddy....Im not a kid alienmomma get a life!
A life...where can I get one of those...say, do you have coupons?
post #42 of 198
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Originally Posted by thecommish16
lol mommy and daddy....Im not a kid alienmomma get a life!

If your not a kid then why do you act like one? Just because a person does not have all their "toys" listed in their sig, they are not owners of an AW? Alienmomma obviously has much more of a "life" than you have so you might want to think twice prior to making childish comments like that one again as you look very foolish constantly refering to what others do or do not have. One the other hand, you obviously have some envy issues you should deal with ASAP.
post #43 of 198
Ok Aurora...tell the voices to go back where they came from (likely DB's midget worshipping religion) and tell alienmomma to stop instigating fights so I get banned!!!

Conspiracy theory?
post #44 of 198
I would say silly theory. Isn't it possible people don't like you because of you?
post #45 of 198
My mommy bought a dell XPS for checking her e-mail. It has a 3.8 ghz processor, and the same x800 as commish. It pretty much just sits there unless she is downloading her e-mail at blazing speed. =O Do you like the purplish blue lighting on the front?
post #46 of 198
You have a 1500 dollar sentia...and you are insulting me and my maxed out XPS...this is definetly a conspriracy theory!!!


post #47 of 198
Thread Starter 
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We all know how it will work out. Dell will ship the thing ASAP, support it for years with overnight parts services, and it will run within 200 points of any exactly equipped alienware or voodoo or whatever...it just wont look as cool.

End of that story.
More likely is that Dell will ship the thing ASAP (as soon as Dell thinks its possible), support it for years with overnight parts services (needed because it will take years plus the services of a UN interpeter to get Dell's computer illiterate and english challenged tech support to understand your problem and what part is needed), and it will run within 200 points of any exactly equipped alienware or voodoo or whatever (after you wipe off Dell's image and do a clean reinstallation of XP-assuming Dell includes the OS disc and not a ghosted restore; in that case you have to buy a full install of WinXP-, perform all of the OS tunes and optimizations and also overclock everything to compensate for Dell's proprietary components)....it just won't look as cool (this is true).
post #48 of 198
wow...what a paragraph of excuses that was...need to overclock to compensate for proprietary parts....reinstall XP? Funny...I beat an ALX score (of the guy who quit the forums and obviously returned the ALX) with the XPS outta the box...and Im at 12155 3dmark03 and 5200 in 3dmark05...not starting alien vs dell, but dude, stop living the fantasy. IT may not look as cool and I admit that...but get outta dream world...
post #49 of 198
And I have double your scores.
post #50 of 198
My sentia was 2200 (2211, i just configured one to check). =P I'd like to see you carry your desktop XPS to class (I'm in college) I additionally have an alienware 5500 but took it off my sig because I am selling it (to big for class). Also, considering I live on my parents property (Diff house) I can just waltz on over and play on the XPS. =O
post #51 of 198
Update for Hammerhead here. My son's XPS arrived yesterday, so although this is apples and oranges, here is a comparison of my experience so far.

Delivery - ordered the XPS last Saturday, it arrived Friday, a few days ahead of schedule. On my Ozma M (5500), scheduled delivery time was two months arrived a month early. No clear winner here.

Dead Pixels - none on the XPS, the 5500 had one, it is outside the center, but within Alienware policy. With a dark background it is annoying, but I knew the rules. I talked to 2 of the 3 people at work yesterday who own an XPS, and they also have 0 dead pixels.

Configuration - configuration on the XPS appears to be exactly as ordered, the Alienware was incorrect (5400 RPM drive was secondary drive, 7200 RPM drive as the primary, this was backwards, although I did change my order mid flight, but still no real excude and this could have been caught if they emailed an updated configuration).

Crapware - I hate all the extra software they install on these things, Alienware a clear winner here. Only extra software I ordered was Norton security stuff on both machines, the Dell was loaded with stuff I uninstalled.

Problems out of the box - none on the XPS so far. My 5500 would not play games correctly. I spent a week reseating the graphics card, trying different drivers, and finally after one reseating of the card, games worked correctly for about an hour. Blew out the connectors on the graphics card with compressed air and it has worked fine since then. Mine came with the 5700 card, a friend said the 9700 card would do a little better for gaming, so I should be getting the new card today (two and half weeks later than promised delivery). I know this will be an incremental improvement, but what the heck, I didn't intend this as a gaming machine, but I have picked up a couple of racing games for fun. BTW - I posted about my video problems on the Alienware forum and there were 0 repsonses from Alienware representatives.

Wireless 802.11g internal cards - range and reception seems much better on the XPS.

Gaming - since I bought the 5500 for an audio notebook and it is not available with a decent graphices card, the XPS is much better. We tried Doom3 last night on the XPS at highest settings and it looked gorgeous. In defence of the 5500, it looks very good at the slightly lower settings and plays doom3 pretty well.

Configuration possibilities - this is where Alienware really shines. I ordered my 5500 with a secondary hard drive and swappable DVD CD burner. The 7700 is very cool because you can have 2 hard drives and 2 optical drives, and I'm sure the RAID configurations must be attractive to gamers. My next audio laptop will be something like the 7700, cause I am tired of swapping the hard drive with the optical drive after a session to burn a CD. I won't have it configured as RAID, but I need a second hard drive dedicated to audio data, primary for operating system.

Cosmetics - I must admit, the blinking Alien eyes and Conspiracy Blue case beat the Skullz thing hands down.

I thnk if I was buying just a gaming laptop for myself at this point, I would go with the XPS given what I have seen. I can't compare customer support, because I have had no need so far on the XPS, I have 0 confidence in Alienware customer support, so the jury is still out.

I'm sort of wishing Dell made a really big-ass laptop like the 7700 that would take multiple hard drives and optical drives, because once bigger 7200 RPM 2.5" drives come out, I would order it in a heartbeat given what I have seen today. From what I am hearing about bigger 7200 RPM drives, I probably have a few months to see what is coming out and comparing my Dell and Alienware experiences, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

On another note, I did a little experiment on the Alienware site downloading a driver package the other night, and the best I could do as far as speed was 20KB. I then tried another website and was getting 80KB, so I wish they would take care of that. Sorry, with fast internet connections these days, I don't have the patience anymore.

Tom
post #52 of 198
Thread Starter 
Commish, I have worked with Dell's in the past so I know whereof I speak. Their hardware is ok, but their support is horrific (especially after it moved to India) and the OS image from the factory has a truckload of crapware on it and is not properly configured.

As to beating an ALX, the only way you could have done that with your rig is against a REALLY low end version. The ALX SLI models would, like DB noted, blow your system away.
post #53 of 198
Well, anyone can go the Alienware website and compare against Alienware systems.


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post #54 of 198
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Originally Posted by Joelist
As to beating an ALX, the only way you could have done that with your rig is against a REALLY low end version. The ALX SLI models would, like DB noted, blow your system away.
Blow my XPS away? What exactly is the definition of "blowing my XPS away".

I can run games on max resolution the same as an SLI ALX...windows and programs dont load ANY faster on an ALX as they do on my XPS with my 148gb raptor setup. The processor can execute commands at blazing speed, (and NOT just produce framerates in video games). I have a Gig of DDR2, I have an Audigy 2 sound card, I have a460 watt PS, a PCI express mobo with USB 2.0, 2 firewire ports. I have an X800 XT 256mb graphics card running at 504/500.

So do you REALLY believe that because 3dmark shows a gain that my XPS is being blown away in regular apps or in games? Or do you think that for 2100 bucks and a 4 month old computer Im not doing so bad?

Before you make your comebacks, remember, the ALX is a cool machine...no one is arguing that. But does it REALLY blow my XPS away? $8000 bucks away?
post #55 of 198
Hmmm, I don't know about their "comparison". They said my computer was 100%, while the ALX was 930%?! That's physically impossible! Nothing can be greater than 100%. Plus, they only compare 4 things about the computer; CPU, GPU, memory, and OS.
post #56 of 198
Which variable impact performance? CPU, GPU, memory,and OS . . .what do you want to compare, power cord? Well, I bought the Uber ALX power cord. yuo = pwned
post #57 of 198
The base system in the comparison would have to be 100%. so the ALX performance was 930% more than the base system. The XPS is in the same boat. At least commish can say hes got 100%.
post #58 of 198
Thread Starter 
An ALX is going to play games at roughly twice the performance of an XPS for the simple reason that it has roughly twice the graphics power (dual cards) in addition to a more powerful CPU (I'm usually an Intel fan, but the AMD FX-55 outperforms all of the Intel P4's).

It's going to cost more, but for good reason. Two GPUs, absolute top of the line CPU, water cooling, personalized support, etc.

I tried to configure comparable systems, but I cannot because Intel does not offer SLI, water cooling or FX-55. The closest I could get cost $3800 vs $5300 for ALX.

By the way, I do not own an AW as of yet. I actually started this thread to get the dope on AW from AW, so to speak. Then, commish, you jumped in and started doing anti-AW when you don't have one. That would be like me jumping into the Sager thread and dissing their laptops, I do not own one and so I do not have a legitimate basis to gripe. That's why I have responded the way I have. When you have owned an AW then you have a legitimate basis to criticize them.
post #59 of 198
Who said anti-alienware? I simply argued that my XPS is not as "blown away" by these alienware systems as so many claim. I have a credit card and a similar income to DB, I can order an ALX if I felt the need and was less careful with my cash. Im not some jealous college kid, Im simply stating that when I PERSONALLY debated all high end systems I came back to Dell, and the 40% off coupon sealed it. I just cant justify a 3dmark gain as a reason to drop more than triple to 4 times the amount on an ALX...my XPS does NOT get blown away, even though it will do SOMEWHAT less in benchmark programs.

The "hard" reality is that hardware is the same, an X800 is an X800, a high end P4 and a high end FX, its all high end...the one who gets it for the lesser price is the winner, the people who pay quadruple what its worth make the computer and hardware makers very rich people...
post #60 of 198
If an XPS would have satified me I would have gotten one. I wanted as much of an increase over my DIY, so SLI was where it is at (for now but more for near future games).
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