I mean is there that big of a difference between the two?
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Wsxga Vs Wuxga
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2/16/05 at 2:20am
the Wuxga is the cousin of bigfoot from what I gather.
In another thread people have been posting that it doesnt really exist. It was supposed to come out but it failed in quality testing so it never did. some sights are actually useing old info or just holding on rumor. according to Adam from this sight Cleveo was out for a while on vacation because of the Chineese new year ,but when they get back they are going to START testing on new screens since the one that originally speced failed because of a sparkling effect it could be some time before that screen ever ships
In another thread people have been posting that it doesnt really exist. It was supposed to come out but it failed in quality testing so it never did. some sights are actually useing old info or just holding on rumor. according to Adam from this sight Cleveo was out for a while on vacation because of the Chineese new year ,but when they get back they are going to START testing on new screens since the one that originally speced failed because of a sparkling effect it could be some time before that screen ever ships
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2/16/05 at 7:56am
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I mean is there that big of a difference between the two?
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There is a pretty big difference. The difference between the WSXGA and WUXGA is comparable to the difference between SXGA and UXGA. The WUXGA will have a native resolution which makes text and icons a lot smaller - but also give you more space within the physical restrictions of the screen. I have an SXGA on my 8890 and personally, I couldn't handle a UXGA - it'd just be too small. My dad has a 5690 with UXGA and he has to set it to SXGA (1280x1024).
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2/16/05 at 10:18am
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Most DVDs actually dont use a very high resolution I think,on average, it is only about 704x480. With a standard TV, which most of the world has, you dont need higher resolution. I do think, however, that DVD makers are upping that now, but then again, only so much data can fit on a DVD.
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the dvd image just gets scaled larger. It will look no different on those screens. wuxga is better for the desktop, but you need really good eyes. I have great eyes so i'd prefer wuxga.
On the other hand, it's almost impossible to run current games at full res on a wuxga so you'll either have to scale the game at a lower resolution to fit the screen (which results in significant image quality degredation) or be content with black borders. In that respect wsxga is better because many laptops can now play games at 1680x1050.
You'll also want to make sure the screen is glossy. It does have reflection issues at times, but the color looks soooo much deeper that it's worth it.
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On the other hand, it's almost impossible to run current games at full res on a wuxga so you'll either have to scale the game at a lower resolution to fit the screen (which results in significant image quality degredation) or be content with black borders. In that respect wsxga is better because many laptops can now play games at 1680x1050.
You'll also want to make sure the screen is glossy. It does have reflection issues at times, but the color looks soooo much deeper that it's worth it.
-BT
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2/16/05 at 11:31am
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Ohhh, I thought the higher resolution of the screen the clearer the picture.
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post #11 of 20
2/16/05 at 1:55pm
WUXGA screens are useful for people that want more screen real estate. Text, icons, window borders, etc. take up space that you may want, and with a higher res screen these things are smaller so you effectively have more room.
I work as a a visual effects artist and more screen real estate and higher resolution is very important. At work I never use a resolution lower than 1600x1200 on a monitor with a standard aspect ratio (4:3). A WUXGA screen would be the exact same pixel to screen size, but wide. Another reason that this is important is that I need to look at HD frames (1920x1080), "2K" film frames (2048x1556 or close) or higher for texture maps, matte paintings, etc. More pixels means less need to scroll the picture around to see the whole thing, and less other screen elements getting in the way and taking up space.
Although I have been a heavy gamer with consoles, I have very little (i.e. next to zero) experience playing PC games (something I intend to change heh) but as far as I know, games do not run at that high a resolution...do they? And if they do, how well?
DVD resolution is either NTSC, PAL, Secam, etc resolution or close. That is approx 704x480 or so for most formats. A DVD won't look better on a WUXGA screen. However, new formats, like the so-called Blu-Ray disc or it's main competitor HD-DVD have been in development for some time and will be released sooner or later. That said, I believe the agreed upon standard res for consumer HD will not be full HD (HD itself has many standards). Obviously future games will run at a much higher res than before (I heard a rumor that MS will release Halo 2.5 with the Xbox 2, which will basically be Halo 2 with a few enhancements, one of which being some version of HD res). So getting a WUXGA may or may not improve things immediately or at all depending on your needs.
I work as a a visual effects artist and more screen real estate and higher resolution is very important. At work I never use a resolution lower than 1600x1200 on a monitor with a standard aspect ratio (4:3). A WUXGA screen would be the exact same pixel to screen size, but wide. Another reason that this is important is that I need to look at HD frames (1920x1080), "2K" film frames (2048x1556 or close) or higher for texture maps, matte paintings, etc. More pixels means less need to scroll the picture around to see the whole thing, and less other screen elements getting in the way and taking up space.
Although I have been a heavy gamer with consoles, I have very little (i.e. next to zero) experience playing PC games (something I intend to change heh) but as far as I know, games do not run at that high a resolution...do they? And if they do, how well?
DVD resolution is either NTSC, PAL, Secam, etc resolution or close. That is approx 704x480 or so for most formats. A DVD won't look better on a WUXGA screen. However, new formats, like the so-called Blu-Ray disc or it's main competitor HD-DVD have been in development for some time and will be released sooner or later. That said, I believe the agreed upon standard res for consumer HD will not be full HD (HD itself has many standards). Obviously future games will run at a much higher res than before (I heard a rumor that MS will release Halo 2.5 with the Xbox 2, which will basically be Halo 2 with a few enhancements, one of which being some version of HD res). So getting a WUXGA may or may not improve things immediately or at all depending on your needs.
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2/16/05 at 3:08pm
If you are a gamer, then WUXGA is probably going to be more of a pain than it is worth. If you are a coder/DBA like me, WUXGA means two coding windows side by side, and large UML and ERD models.
I held out since September 2004, but I finally made the plunge and got a refurbished Dell XPS 3.4 GHz, 1 Gb, 15.4" WUXGA for less than half the price of a 9860. I'm not a gamer, so the 128 AGP didn't bother me. The way I figure it, when Clevo finally figures out that people want a 64 bit WUXGA DTR, I'll be able to resell this unit for less cost/month than if I would have purchased a less than ideal 9860 and hoped it kept me happy for two years, or tried to resell it at the middle to end of this year. I'm not a Dell fan, but working with support techs from India won't bother me, because I have enough colleagues and friends from there that I can handle the accent.
Text wise, my eyes are fine with normal sized fonts. It strikes me as being somewhere between 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 on a 17" CRT, except easier to read because everything is crisp clear. CRT's seem so fuzzy now. I think the crispness, lack of flicker against overhead flourescent lights, and softer light combine to make it easy on the eyes.
That's just me, though.
I held out since September 2004, but I finally made the plunge and got a refurbished Dell XPS 3.4 GHz, 1 Gb, 15.4" WUXGA for less than half the price of a 9860. I'm not a gamer, so the 128 AGP didn't bother me. The way I figure it, when Clevo finally figures out that people want a 64 bit WUXGA DTR, I'll be able to resell this unit for less cost/month than if I would have purchased a less than ideal 9860 and hoped it kept me happy for two years, or tried to resell it at the middle to end of this year. I'm not a Dell fan, but working with support techs from India won't bother me, because I have enough colleagues and friends from there that I can handle the accent.
Text wise, my eyes are fine with normal sized fonts. It strikes me as being somewhere between 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 on a 17" CRT, except easier to read because everything is crisp clear. CRT's seem so fuzzy now. I think the crispness, lack of flicker against overhead flourescent lights, and softer light combine to make it easy on the eyes.
That's just me, though.
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2/16/05 at 5:11pm
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Woah, woah, woah. You mean people actually use UML in the real world?! Get out of here!
I just thought they were doing that to punish us...
On a side note, any chance of a more standard text color? Those of us with the "Classic Forums" skin can't read that at all. </needless_complaining>
I just thought they were doing that to punish us...On a side note, any chance of a more standard text color? Those of us with the "Classic Forums" skin can't read that at all. </needless_complaining>
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2/16/05 at 8:08pm
For quick and easy throwaway code that nobody else will need to support, using all of the UML diagrams can be overkill. But, if you are working on a significantly sized application with enough people in the mix, it has been a nice evolution. The purpose of OOAD is to increase communication between the real world and software, and the people supporting it, nu? Why would you object to UML, unless it has always been used as a weapon by an egotistical control freak?
In regards to WUXGA, Adam has an interesting post in another forum (9860 WUXGA Shipping Soon), where in various posts, he lists the efforts Clevo has undertaken to get a 17" WUXGA to market. My apologies for the "figure it out" spike in an earlier post.
In regards to WUXGA, Adam has an interesting post in another forum (9860 WUXGA Shipping Soon), where in various posts, he lists the efforts Clevo has undertaken to get a 17" WUXGA to market. My apologies for the "figure it out" spike in an earlier post.
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Why would you object to UML, unless it has always been used as a weapon by an egotistical control freak?
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2/21/05 at 8:24pm
If you can sell, you will always have a job, you will always make big money, you can leave anytime you want, and starting off, you will probably make more money than McD's. If you are up on technology, try something in IT sales.
Even if you don't want to be a salesman the rest of your life, you will find that sales, like accounting or management, is part of pretty much every job you'll have.
If you are taking the idea half seriously, let me put you over the edge with this one. Take your first sales job at a successfull dealership. It is a grinder, and there is no honor. But the training program is usually effective, and the successfull guys who have been selling for 5+ years have the tools that you can pick up after being around them a year. If you can sell half as well as the polished guys, then you can sell anything. Think of it as a community college where you can get your AA degree (assoc. arts).
Just don't do retail sales, or pure phone sales. Retail sales is order taking, and phone sales sucks worse.
Even if you don't want to be a salesman the rest of your life, you will find that sales, like accounting or management, is part of pretty much every job you'll have.
If you are taking the idea half seriously, let me put you over the edge with this one. Take your first sales job at a successfull dealership. It is a grinder, and there is no honor. But the training program is usually effective, and the successfull guys who have been selling for 5+ years have the tools that you can pick up after being around them a year. If you can sell half as well as the polished guys, then you can sell anything. Think of it as a community college where you can get your AA degree (assoc. arts).
Just don't do retail sales, or pure phone sales. Retail sales is order taking, and phone sales sucks worse.
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2/22/05 at 6:51am
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Thanks dude, that's a great suggestion. I know what you mean about sales people - I know a guy that could sell you the shirt you're wearing. I'm a people person and the lack of personal interaction in computing is just a total downer. One thing I had been considering was real estate. Not necessarily just sales, cos like retail, there's often not a lot an agent can do to sell a house the customer doesn't want to buy. But I was thinking more in terms of getting some capital (somehow) and getting in the whole buy-fix-sell cycle.
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2/23/05 at 3:57pm
I know a guy who did that, but cash flow was an issue for him. Make sure you have a solid/regular income that covers your needs, the house payments, and the repair materials before making it a go. Based on the sale process going unpredictably, I think my colleague would have been much better off if he always had $5K in the bank to cover the "I had no idea that would happen" scenarios. Make sure you also have a lawyer and adjuster that you know (and trust) personally.
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