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Dell Latitude D610 Review

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Computer Specs:
  • Intel® Pentium® M Processor 750 (1.86GHz)
  • 14.1 SXGA+, RADEON X300
  • 60GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 5400RPM
  • 24X CDRW/DVD Combo
  • Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 WLAN
  • 256MB DDR2 400MHz SDRAM, 1 DIMM

Price Paid:
$1337.00
Free CDRW/DVD Drive Promo
Free Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 WLAN Promo
$350.00 off list price web Promo
Free Shipping Promo
Purchased from Dell Website on February 2, 2005
Currently under UPS tracking, Arriving Feb 21st, 2005

Acessories Purchased:
1GB DDR2 533mhz RAM from Kingston $230.00 Free Shipping

Objective for Purchasing Laptop:
Portable design station for use of Macromedia Director MX2004, Flash MX2004, Dreamweaver MX2004, Fireworks MX2004, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator, Rhino 3D Modelling, Blender 3D Modelling. Light 3D rendering on the go when necessary. Light gaming when bored and on the run. Standard use of productivity (Internet, Word Processing, Email, etc.) Large Scene rendering, massive animation rendering, and hard core gameing is left for the desktop at home.

Criteria for Purchase:
Small form factor for ease of portability 14.1" Screen Max, 12.1" Screen Min
Dedicated Video Graphics Processor, Min 64MB Memory
Less than 5.5Lbs
Less than 12.5"x10.5"x1.5"
Atleast a 3 hour battery life
Price budget of $1500


Review

I recieved the laptop today, 11:03am Monday 21st, 2005. 3 Days before it orginal date of arrival, I was very impressed. I opened it up, battery was already fully charged, plugged in the AC, saw a green light and turned the bad boy on. The Windows sign on was quick and responsive. I am impressed. I quickly took the keyboard out (which was very, very easy) and installed the Kingston 1GB DDR2 533mhz Ram card. Now we are really cooking.

I took the laptop to my university. I became thoroughly impressed that it was able to get a very strong wireless signal in a classroom that normally gives other students problems(specifically the Mac G4 Notebook students...Im not Mac bashing, I love Macs.) Let me also add that this thing is very light, there was no discomfort in carrying it around.

Screen: The screen is excellent, very crisp, and no dead pixels. It is not the shiny type of screen, which made me very excited, since those reflective screens hurt my eyes when there are bright lights behind me. Ill come back to this part and do an angle test.

Battery Test: I downloaded and installed Mozilla Firefox,downloaded and installed all the windows updates, downloaded and installed an FTP program, and installed Microsoft Office. I also downloaded the 180 MB 3Dmark 2003 program. During this time, I was modifiying my website and taking notes in a class on the lappie. Folks this thing was doing all this on the battery, and lasted 3hrs and 15 minutes. I was ecstatic. When it cutoff it saved my data, and when I plugged the outlet in it and turned it back on...it was exactly where I had left off.

This is where it gets nasty. After 6 hours of constant use at school, I was ready to take it home, install my multimedia software, run some gaussian blur time tests, rendering time tests, modelling test, game tests, and the benchmark tests. I bring it home, set it up, and press the power button. Nothing happens. I attach the AC and press the power button, again nothing happens. I reseat the memory, the hard-drive, the wireless card, the optical drive...nothing. I check the dell support website and do a system reset. Nothing the laptop just does not come on. It completely died on me after 6 hours of use.

I call Dell support and get a friendly Indian man in 17 minutes, and then he tells me that somehow the Dell support system sent me to the Inspiron support, so he graciously connects me directly to a Lattitude line person. This guy was very friendly, he pretty much asked me to do what I had already done..so I did it again. And once again, no power.He apologizes for my inconvinience and tells me that I have two options: return the system for a refund or send it to get a new motherboard installed. So I decide to go with sending it to get a new motherboard installed...and so the review ends here until I get my lappie again. I am very depressed.

Pictures
<Updated on Monday Feb 21st, upon arrival of laptop>

Bonus
The V3100 ATI Fire GL and the ATI X300 are one and the same. The Fire GL utilizes a different driver set optimized only for OpenGL graphics. As my 3d software (Rhino & Blender) use Direct X just fine, it gives me the option to later upgrade to Maya or 3D studio and install the Open GL ATI Fire GL driver set. This is a 2 Geometry Engine, 4 Pixel Pipeline VPU, with 200^6 vertices per second, and 1.6^9 Pixels per second. This is packaged in a 128bit interface with a 6.4GB/sec bandwidth. This is more than enough for modelling, and light scene rendering, painful if you are rendering a full fledged animation.You save a couple hundred dollars with this setup then purchasing a Dell Precision M20. The FireGL driver can be manually downloaded from the Dell Support Website.

Following are Technical Images from the manual that tell you the placement of all the parts of the computer. This stuff is Copyright Dell
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post #2 of 189
I waiting myself to get that lappy from Dell as well, they told me it's in transport and will arrive next monday (i hope so).

You mean that X300 it's really the directx version of the V3100 FireGL ¿¿? are you sure about the drivers will work with the X300 ?? no modding needed?

congrats on yer new lappy.
post #3 of 189
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Im positive they will. The FireGL drivers are bundled with the X300 drivers on their support site. The architecture of the X300 and the V3100 are exactly the same. This would also help Dell cut costs and get more money by charging more for one over the other. The only thing I can think of that may prevent the installation of the FireGl drivers is perhaps some sort of instruction in the BIOS that prevents the installation of one over the other. If you want it for gaming, keep the X300 DirectX drivers, the OpenGl drivers are not really optimized for gaming, they are designed and optimized for OpenGl based 3D rendering/modelling software.

Thank you for the congrats, I offer you the same.

-Scipio
post #4 of 189
I bet you can't install the fireGL drivers on your D610,not unless you can hack and change GPU I.D. etc.I tried to find info on this for months with an I8600 MR9600 to fireGL T128,same deal
exactly the same card but with different driver set,but could'nt get it to accept the fireGl driver.Ended up buying M60.
I also read somewhere the MR X300 has 64 bit interface and fireGL
v3100 a 128 bit ?
I'm very interested in seeing how you get on as I was thinking of buying M20 (much more portable size than M60)
post #5 of 189
How well does the D610 play games?
post #6 of 189
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We will find out. I should recieve it on Monday. I will see if I can get the FireGl drivers installed, if im wrong on my assumption, then Im wrong. Ill post 3DMark numbers. Run some 2d/3d software. Run it through some games. you know the whole gamut.

-Scipio
post #7 of 189
Thanks. Also, have you looked at the downloads section at Dell for the D610? They list more drivers then I can count for the same graphics card. But I believe that the FireGL Drivers should run on it if you look at what they have listed.
post #8 of 189
Good thing it's coming via UPS and not USPS as Monday is a federal holiday.

Really looking forward to your review and PICS!
post #9 of 189
What is the operating frequency of the video card? core/memory and wich temperature does it give?

You can look it with RadLinker and I8KFANGUI.
post #10 of 189
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Hey guys I updated the review...I have some bad news... The laptop died on me after 6 hours of use. check the review for info.
post #11 of 189
ahhh scary... hope it comes back in one piece. Your lappy is in my prayers
post #12 of 189
Do you have to remove the keyboard to add ram?
post #13 of 189
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There is one DIMM slot underneath the Keyboard, and one on the bottom of the Laptop. The bottom one is very very easy, you unscrew one little screw, plop in the RAM, screw the cover back on and your done. The keyboard one is a little more involved, but it still takes you less than 5 minutes to do it. Infact upgrading anything on it is very easy. The harddrive comes out in seconds as does the optical drive. Even the Mini-PCI card is easily accessible.
post #14 of 189
I see. Thanks for the info! Did you notice any problem with the palmrest above the hard drive getting too warm?
post #15 of 189
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I didnt notice any heat that was bothersome, granted I was not running any crazy programs constantly accessing the HD. Yet with all the software installation, heat was very minimal, if at all noticeable.

The computer was eerily quiet, it made very little if any noise at all. When installing software you can barely discern the murmur of the hard-drive.
post #16 of 189
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By the way this is from ATI's website:
(Note the Precision M20 under Dells name)
http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/mobil...adeonx300.html

Looks like the V3100 FireGL GPU is just a repackaged x300. Doesnt surprise me since they dont list the v3100 FireGL on their mobile products page.
http://www.ati.com/products/mobile.html

You can find information on it in their workstation products page:
http://www.ati.com/products/firegl.html



Systems with MOBILITY™ RADEON® X300
The following manufacturers have chosen ATI's MOBILITY™ RADEON® X300.

ARIMA

* M622 DCX/UCX
* W622-DK8X/UK8X

Dell

* Latitude D610
* Precision M20

HP

* HP Pavilion notebook PCs zd8000 Series
* Compaq Presario notebook PCs X6000 series

LG

* Xnote LS45
* Xnote LS55

NEC

* VY20F/AE-T
* VY20F/AG-T
* VY17F/AG-T
* VY20F/AF-T
* VY17F/AF-T
* VY13M/AF-T

Samsung

* P40
post #17 of 189
That's extremely bad - having a new laptop go off in 6 hours ....

Interestingly, I was planning to buy a Dell Latitude D610 (almost fully loaded - $2400 with complete coverage and onsite). Now I will have to review other forums.

This might be a one off incident but then this is what I have to go by, since Dell does does not publish customer satisfaction and problem reports to prospective buyers
post #18 of 189
Scipio, can you check the battery for its part number. Look at its bottom right. Does it say: G2053 A00? If so then that would explain d610's and d600's same 3 hr battery life. Waiting for your screen angle tests.

Even though it has some design problems, I'm still recommending and purchasing d600's as oppossed to d610 for my friends and clients because it's a mature system.

Btw does the d610 have an internal microphone (a small hole somewhere above the power button)?
post #19 of 189
Scipio

I'm sorry to hear about your bad luck. I can't believe it went dead in 6 hours.

I have a D610 that I have been using for about 10 days and so far, I'm totally in love with it. And I've been using Thinkpads for 10 years!

I ordered mine with the 2.0 ghz, 80 gig hard drive, 1 gig RAM, and DVD-RW. My experience so far has been unbelievably good.

Heat - one of my main concerns after reading about the palm rest issue with the D600 and 600m. Thus far, it gets warm on the bottom of the laptop, but nice and cool on top. My T42 has been my benchmark system for heat, and I'd have to say the D610 is very, very close to the benchmark.

Display - The D610 goes the T42 one (maybe two) better. The screen is brighter and much easier for me to view. I opted for the SXGA+ (same as my T42) and I find the D610 much more comfortable to work with. I spend a minimum of 8-14 hours a day working on my laptop.

Keyboard - Once again, the T42 is the benchmark when it comes to keyboards and trackpoint/touchpad, but the Dell is right up there with it. I used my T42 at home today (while at lunch) because my Dell was hooked up to my port replicator at the office, and I think the trackpoint (my preferred cursor movement choice) on the Dell is more responsive and precise than the T42's. I never thought I'd find a keyboard as good as the Thinkpad's, but I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with the D610.

Speed - The D610 is faster and more responsive than the T42 (1.7 ghz dothan with the same 80 gig hard drive and 1 gig memory). No disappointment here!

Bios - Anyone check out the new bios? I went through it the other day and all I can say is WOW. I've never seen a bios with as many options and explained as clearly as the one on the D610. I have a M60 that is a year and half old and the bios on it is NOT the same as the D610. For example, you can set the screen brightness when running on battery using a scale of 1 - 10. Very nice to be able to select 8 instead of just full-brightness like the setting on the T42.

I've yet to run into any problems, except I do have a problem using it with the advanced port replicator and a Samsung 213T LCD. Noticeable screen flicker... Instead, I'm using a Dell 19" Ultra sharp that works great.

I hope they get yours back to you very soon. It's really a great laptop.
post #20 of 189
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DHL picked up my laptop today, she said it should be at their service department tommorrow and told me if they finish it by thursday I should have it back by friday or saturday....im crossing my fingers.

To Mich43L: The battery is a Type C1295, 53WH Capacity. There are no numbers on it that resemble anything like the numbers you posted. The laptop was out of my hands before I read your post, so i am not certain about the microphone.

jjfcpa: Yeah the Bios is incredible. The simplicity of its use, the design of its interface and the clear explanation of everything blew me away. I definately agree with you that it is one of the best organized and designed Bios' out there.

Speaking of the BIOS and the ATI websites post on the X300 on both the M20 and the D610. Based on what I saw in the Bios If the fire GL drivers dont install on the D610 then I am betting that if you flash the D610 bios with the M20 bios the Video Display part of the Bios will then display the X300 as a V3100 FireGL...im so itching to try this....
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