Sony Xbrite VS Fujistu Crystal-View VS HP Bright-View VS Other

Comparing the Fuji vs Sony, I found that they both looked great. When I knocked the resolution down on both screens, however, the Fuji still looked great while the Xbrite showed a bit of pixelation on the edges of fonts and icons on the desktop. That's a small matter, but one to consider if you ever think you'll decrease your resolution down. Other than that, I'm not too sure you're going to find much of a difference.

I think the Crystal View is better too. I've seen them nearly side-by-side and I think the Crystal View looks a bit better, though not by far. It's a superior technology too. MVA vs. TN of Sony's XBrite.

Have to disagree I'm afraid.

The CrystalView is very nice, as nice as the Sony. In fact I suspect it is exactly the same as the Xbrite screen. If you compare the models from Sony and Fujitsu which have glossy screens, you'll see that they both have 10.6" screens and 13.3" screens. No-one else has these so logic would indicate they share the same supplier and either Sony supplies Fujitsu or vice versa.

The information about Fujitsu having the highest resolution screen is unfortunately wrong. For some odd reason they don't have CrystalView in anything above XGA or WXGA resolution. Which sucks.

You can get the Xbrites in XGA, WXGA, SXGA, WSXGA (in Japan) and the best one of all which is the 17" WUXGA of the A series.

HP can do the BrightView in WXGA and 17" WSXGA. Sager have a 17" WSXGA, presumably the same as the HP. From what I've seen they aren't quite as good as the Sony/Fujitsu, but it wouldn't surprise me one bitl if all of the glossy screens are made by the same supplier.

The hole in everyone's range is a 15.4" WSXGA glossy screen. Sony have one, but it is only available in the Japanese versions of the FS series.

Cheers

Steve

Don't know what the ones I looked at were (but suspect them to be SXGA+), but the ones I compared were 16.1" screens. Like I said, initial viewing seemed to favor the Fuji, but I think that's a matter of opinion really. Where the difference lie was the changing of the resolution. The Fujitsu kept its clarity whereas the Sony showed definite jaggies. If they're the same screens, then there's something else in there that's making a definitely difference betwixt the two. That being said, I wouldn't cry if I had a Sony screen (well, I technically do as I own an FX-120, but I don't have an Xbrite)

That'd be the Sony GRT screen which is the SXGA. I have a GRT360 as well as a Sony A Series and the newer A series screen is significantly better than the older GRT series.

Given only Sony and Fujitsu made 16.1 inch glossy screens, that tends to indicate they are the same too.

If there were significant differences when you changed resolution it might be something to do with the video cards. I just changed the resolution on my old GRT (nVidia 5600) and it does look much worse than SXGA, but I'd expect that. The A series WUXGA looks pretty good at WSXGA, and pretty sucky at WXGA.

Cheers

Steve

I think the best screen out there is Qosimo's Plasma display. Very bright and crisp compared to the glossy lcd's used by other manufacturers.

But the 13.3 offered by Sony is widescreen and that offered by fujitsu in the s6xxx series is a standard screen.

If the Qosmio's screen is plasma that's news to me, but it does look really good - sharp, sharp, sharp, and not quite as glossy as the Fujitsu/Sony.

Yes, the salesman at the Acer shop said that the Qosimo had a plasma display and hence the price premium. Next to M30's TruBrite display, it did look a lot more crisp. It was news to me as well.

The statement that the "Fujitsu Crystal View is best" is probably correct, but probably for the wrong reason.

If I understand your question correctly, you are looking for the notebook that best displays the brightest, most accurate color reproduction... at least that's the premise I'm replying to.

It isn't a matter of screen resolution,which is essentially a pixel display ability: think pixel count horizonatally and pixel count vertically, but a matter of contrast ratio. For example, you could have a laptop with a 1024X768 resolution with a 400:1 contrast ratio that might look MUCH better than a laptop with a higher 1440X900 resolution screen with a 250:1 contrast ratio.

Most laptops have a contrast ratio of 250:1 (Laptop Magazine, Dec. 2004, page 174, paragraph 3).

Toshiba LCDs ramp that up a bit to 300:1... (Laptop Magazine, Dec. 2004, page 174, paragraph 3).

The Fujitsu N6010 has a 400:1 contrast ratio, at least according to their own issued press releases. I've seen this corroborated at another laptop review source but can't seem to find the link. When I find it, I'll post it. More often than not, manufacturer claims of excessively elevated contrast ratio are usually exaggerated, but, in my opinion, not in the case of the Fujitsu.

Based on my own "eyeball review", the Fujitsu does win as having the best color reproduction and brightness. Black seems more a "true black" than on other laptops... and reproducing true black color is a very hard thing for an LCD to do (BUT manufacturers are getting better and better at doing this. In the future, high definition, flat panel LCD based TVs will supplant plasma based TVs... however... this is another issue).

Regarding HP: I was underwhelmed when looking at HP screens. They are good to very good... but distinctly inferior to Fujitsu, Toshiba and Sony.

I haven't looked seriously at buying a Sony laptop, or at Sony laptop contrast ratios, as I'm really not interested in a Sony laptop. I personally find them 1: overpriced and 2: of a rather flimsy build quality.... but that's just my opinion.

Personally, I'd go for a Fujitsu or a Toshiba.

That's my take on this issue.

The Toshiba Qosmio is not a plasma display. It is a Liquid Crystal Display (LCD).

Largely because of screen image "burn-in" problems, no laptop I am aware of has a plasma screen.

Upthread, someone said he/she was told that the Qosmio had a "plasma screen", ostensibly by the salesperson.

Just another example of salespersons not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

I wish I could "replay" into this thread the astounding amount of misinformation I was given by salespersons regarding high definition television I was researching several months ago. As such, I was forced to educate myself and I'm glad I did. After having done so, now, within 60 seconds, I know if the salesperson knows sh*t from shinola regarding High Def....(most do not) and the same is probably true for many laptop computer salespersons... sorta like the salesperson that told an upthread poster that the Qosmio was a "plasma screen".

Caveat Emptor folks.

Jack L
"the Fujitsu does win as having the best color reproduction and brightness. Black seems more a "true black"

That's what is most important to me (a pro photographer). I need a laptop screen that reproduces the most accurate color - i need true black and true white. I need to check into which screen calibrates best and with what calibration tools/software.

My Sony (non-Xbrite) packed in on me after only 18 months, so I am reluctant to get another Sony and I hear Fujitsu are built better.

PS Does anybody know what the Sager glossy screen is like?

To add to the discussion, I've compared my friend's sony PCGK23Q with my bro's new hp zv5415 (both WXGA) and they are pretty much the same. It's hard to give a point to one over another...

I am getting spoiled with how great Fujitsu screen is. So when I'll be upgrading again, I will not buy anything less then what I have right now as far as screen quality.

The end result of CrystalView and XBrite may be the same, but they use different technologies to achieve the purpose. Fujitsu developped the technology used in its screens, called Multi-domain Vertical Alignment, and Fujitsu licenses this technology to various manufacturers to make their screens. Sony also partially developped their technology, Twisted Nematics plus Film, which is used in its laptops as well as many desktop LCDs. There is no need for blank speculation when we have evidence that states the contrary.

fujitisu>Hp> Sony> Others

The screen on my old Sony GRV680 was 16" and it was amazing. The Screens on the Sony A series are even better.

Daley