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Sager 8890 review  

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SAGER 8890 pricing

-16" LCD
-Detachable MP3 player with memory from 32MB up to 256MB
-Radeon 9600 PRO 128MB Video card
-Fixed floppy drive
-DVD-RW Combo drive
-Up to 3 internal hard drives, 2 can be used in RAID 0 and RAID 1
-3.2GHZ P4 processor/ 800 FSB
-Dual channel 400DDR RAM
-COAX input TV tuner with a full remote control
-2 PCMCIA TYPE II slots
-Integrated bluetooth AND Wireless LAN
-USB 2.0, S-Video in, S-video out, DVI, and firewire to name a few of it's ports

Fresh from the package all it came with:



Here are some random pics of it... some pics were used from the 8886 review as many of the features and looks are the same.








New keyboard layout with a properly placed enter key =)

Check out the detachable MP3 player and all it comes with:







It has a USB port built into it and comes with the cable to plug it into any computer you want.

This is the internal 6-in-1 card reader for the 8890 that plugs into the same slot as the MP3 player. You can have both and swap them. It's not available for ordering yet and we don't have the pricing for it. When it is available, it will be offered by itself for anyone that already has a system they want to add it to. Yes, it will work with the other 888X series laptops.



The 2 pics below is the card reader stacked on top of the MP3 player.




The SXGA has a very clear and bright display with a nice angle view:




Some Bios shots:






We will go through a step by step procedure to installing raid if we get a chance but it looks like they laid it out pretty easy to follow in the manual.




The MiniUSB Wireless and Bluetooth cards are located under the keyboard for easy access along witht he RAM. As you can see from the picture, it's APACER RAM with heatsinks attached.

By removing these 4 screws, the battery flips right out. It's a 14.8V 6600maH battery. This compares to the 5670 main battery that is a 4000maH and the 2nd battery option in the 5670 is a 3400maH. Also, the main battery in the 8887 was a 6000MaH battery.



Underneath, we find the main hard drive. Removing these 2 screws and the flexprint plug, you can tilt it out sideways.







Not nearly as easy as the 5670 where you only have to remove 1 screw from start to finish. The 8890 you have to remove 6 screws and carefully pull the flexprint plug off. So, instead of the 30 second job it is with the 5670, it's a 2 minute job here =).

Removing these 3 screws gives you access to the TV tuner and capture card:





You have the option of getting a PAL TV Tuner card instead of the NTSC one. This is a special order item and often adds 2 weeks to the order process. You can also have the TV Tuner removed all together and get the 3rd hard drive bracket for up to 240GB of internal hard drive storage.

With the cover off, you can see the 2 screws that are responsible for releasing the 2 drive bays.



Now, with the 2 screws removed, you can slide out both bays. We ordered this system with the 2nd hard drive option so one of the bays has the 2nd hard drive and the other has the DVD/CDRW combo drive. The 2nd bay drive is the other slot the 2nd hard drive must be located for RAID. It does not work with the 3rd bay hard drive. A 2nd media drive can also be installed in the 2nd bay.

The bay hard drive pulls out with its bracket:



Removing the 4 screws and the flexprint, the drive easily comes out of its bracket:







With that, we move to the other bay where the DVD/CDRW combo drive lives. It pulls out the same as the other bay:

Sager uses Toshiba and Teac for their media drives in all cases I've seen.



After removing the 5 screws the drive pulls out of the bracket and you will find it to be the standard size drive you should be able to swap with brands other than the one Sager uses.

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BENCHMARKS

Sager Laptop Test Subjects

1 Sager 8887, 3.06GHZ CPU 533FSB, 2X 512MB DDR266, 60GB 7200rpm hard drive, XP Pro, DX9b, ATI Driver version 7.89 (6.14.10.6351)

2 Sager 8890, 3.2GHZ CPU 800FSB, 2X 512MB DDR400, 2X 60GB 7200rpm hard drives/RAID 0, DX9b, ATI Driver version 7.89 (6.14.10.6351)

Sandra 2003 CPU ALU
8887 9511
8890 9964
Sandra 2003 CPU FPU
8887 2651
8890 2766
Sandra 2003 CPU SSE
8887 5667
8890 6132

Sandra 2003 CPU Multi-Media Integer
8887 14172
8890 14777
Sandra 2003 CPU Multi-Media Float
8887 21969
8890 23097

Sandra 2003 Memory Bandwidth
8887 1971/1968
8890 4076/4102

Sandra 2003 File System
8887 23264
8890 44405

3DMARK01SE Build 330
8887 7211
8890 10549

3DMARK03 Build 320 with 330 patch
8887 923
8890 3005
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MORE BENCHMARKS

In this test, we compared the 8890 systems with 2 desktop systems. One being what we would consider what the average hardcore gamer has and the other being a bit more extreme.

Desktop #1 has a P4 2.4GHZ CPU/533FSB, 1024MB DDR 333, and a GF4 ti4200.

Desktop #2 has an AMD XP2800 CPU, 1024MB dual channel 400DDR, and an ATI 9800 PRO.

8890 #1 is how it comes from Sager

8890 #2 is with Powerstrip loaded on it with settings left @ Powerstrip default. Powerstrip default is 256/351.

UT2K3

800 X 600 Flyby
Desktop 1 163
Desktop 2 206
8890 1 190
8890 2 209

800 X 600 Botmatch
Desktop 1 57
Desktop 2 78
8890 1 77
8890 2 77

1024 X 768 Flyby
Desktop 1 129
Desktop 2 201
8890 1 130
8890 2 153

1024 X 768 Botmatch
Desktop 1 57
Desktop 2 78
8890 1 75
8890 2 76

We ran Star Wars Attack of the Clones from a full charge and were able to get 1 hour and 42 Minutes. That was with full screen, default settings, and volume at 7 which is fine for sitting within a couple of feet and listening to.
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To enable RAID, make sure the dip switches under the KB are set to "ON". Then follow the steps in the manual on page 7-24.
Also, make SURE you reset default setting in the bios after setting the dip switches.


Sorry the pic is a lil blurry, it's because the computer itself is too fast for my shutter =).

Here's another pic from the manual:

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There's been some questions on how crisp the external display is for the 8890 system so we attached the 8890 through a DVI->VGA adapter to a Sony 420GS and it looks perfectly clear. We couldn't get a picture to justify how clear it is, but you can get an idea from these pictures. Caution, these ar very large pictures if you click on them to see their full size:





In the pic, the LCD is running native 1280X1024 and the CRT is running 1600X1200.
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