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Liquid cooling the 9860

post #1 of 10
2/21/05 at 12:34am
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OK, this is kind of far out, but I'm interesting in doing some kind of liquid cooling mod for my 9860. It's a cool machine, and I'm really liking it, but the fan noise is kinda loud and it pumps hot air out the left side.

Is this just totally far out or is there some kind of mod kit out there for this sort of thing. I've been looking at sites with cooling gear and it definitely all looks big. From the looks of the stock stuff, My best bet would be an external module with hoses that hooked into the notebook. Maybe about the size of a portable harddrive.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I don't really know much about this stuff, I've just been reading stuff on the web and pipe dreaming.

Input/brainstorming would be cool.

Thanks

Dave
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post #2 of 10
2/21/05 at 12:59am
I just don't think that there's enough room inside the case. You would essentially have to dismantle the machine and then what would be the point?
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post #3 of 10
2/21/05 at 4:22am
I think you would definitely have to very crazily mod the case. For anyone able to do that though, it sure would be sweet. The best bet would be just using a Koolance Exos. The Koolance blocks are probably the best bet as far as being low profile, with horizontal tube inputs, but something even more low profile would probably be better. Placement-wise though, it would be really tough for the keyboard and a cpu water block to co-exist. You mention the heat coming out of the left vent though. Water-cooling the gpu could be interesting, since theres sorta empty space above it. The area to the left of the touchpad could maybe be modded to take a cooler, although I don't know if the gpu points up or down. If it does point up, slapping a water block on that could work and might not hinder typing that much.
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post #4 of 10
2/21/05 at 5:02am
Wow cant wait to see if you actually get something like this going...
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post #5 of 10
2/21/05 at 6:02am
I have a cooling mod already for this style lappy .. but this blows mine away . go look in alienware area 51m section for my mod if you are interested. But i do think this water cooling is possible. i have had my lappy apart and think a custom or modified retail water cooling set up could be made to work. i will look into this more.
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post #6 of 10
2/21/05 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by halflife
OK, this is kind of far out, but I'm interesting in doing some kind of liquid cooling mod for my 9860. It's a cool machine, and I'm really liking it, but the fan noise is kinda loud and it pumps hot air out the left side.

Is this just totally far out or is there some kind of mod kit out there for this sort of thing. I've been looking at sites with cooling gear and it definitely all looks big. From the looks of the stock stuff, My best bet would be an external module with hoses that hooked into the notebook. Maybe about the size of a portable harddrive.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I don't really know much about this stuff, I've just been reading stuff on the web and pipe dreaming.

Input/brainstorming would be cool.

Thanks

Dave
man, you are crazy LOL. if u freaking want to liqlid cool ur notebook, u definitely should get a desktop instead. i swear LOL.
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post #7 of 10
2/21/05 at 8:45am
I certainly don't think it's crazy to think about, but actually achieving it as a mod seems somewhat difficult. The internal space just isn't sufficient - the chasis was designed to house only the components in there now and who knows what adverse effects changing stuff would have. For example, watercooling the CPU/GPU would indeed cut down on the fan usage, but the CPU/GPU aren't the only components relying on the fans to cool them. And I'm sure some of the "empty space" in there isn't just wasted space - there needs to be adequate spacing for heat dissipation and filling those spaces with cooling blocks and hoses may well hinder more than they help.

Personally, I'd rather just wait until notebook watercooling becomes an industry standard - that way not only is it covered by the warranties, but also I know it's been fully tested and won't damage my $3k+ notebook.

Just my $.02
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post #8 of 10
2/21/05 at 12:05pm
A fully enclosed water cooling solution would not really be possible, considering you need to fit a tank, pump and radiator. However, an external kit which attaches to internal piping would only have the block sizes as the limiting factor. This would mean you could only water cool at your desk at home however, partially eliminating the advantage of your notebook

Another problem with this setup would be that you would have to drain and reprime the system every time you connected your notebook so that:

a. You are not carrying around a machine full of potentially destructive liquid.

b. When you reconnect, you don't get air bubbles in the system, damaging the pump and reducing cooling efficiency.

Nice idea, but I think you would have to be super keen to make it work and at best, the hassle would not be worth the potential gain. Good luck anyway though

Cheers
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post #9 of 10
2/21/05 at 7:52pm
What about applying some thin heat conducting material to the case, which connects to the watercooled radiator on the outside? Your lappy would simply disconnect from the radiator, not the pumps, when traveling.

As for laptop vs. desktop, even if you never move your laptop from the desk you installed it to - where else are you going to find a WUXGA flat panel?
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post #10 of 10
2/22/05 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by PackBjammin
What about applying some thin heat conducting material to the case, which connects to the watercooled radiator on the outside? Your lappy would simply disconnect from the radiator, not the pumps, when traveling.

As for laptop vs. desktop, even if you never move your laptop from the desk you installed it to - where else are you going to find a WUXGA flat panel?
In this case you would only be transferring heat away from the case though, similar to a cooling pad, but the radiator would give you more capacity to do so. For water-cooling to be effective you need to apply heat transfer blocks to the hot components ie. CPU +- GPU +- chipset, in order to effectively cool these components. Perhaps if you could attach a heat pipe to these blocks to transfer the heat externally, you could then modify a block to fit to an external part of the laptop which you could attach and remove simply.

Cheers

PS: Check out the new Dell 2405FP
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