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post #1 of 16
1/3/03 at 4:22am
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If you had to get something other than a sager...
What would it be?

I'm thinking dell, does anyone have any recomendations... thanks...
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post #2 of 16
1/3/03 at 4:31am
I was at compusa the otherday and took a look at the toshiba satelite and the sony vaio both with the 16"monitor. The were both built rather well and seemed to offer the same features for the same or less price (sale?). The sony monitor was absolutely the most beautiful LCD I have ever seen, almost made me want to return it. The only thing I'm not shur about is if they are using "desktop" processors like the sagers. Also the 8886 offers the TV capture card and mp3 player to up the ante.
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post #3 of 16
1/3/03 at 4:45am

Re: If you had to get something other than a sager...

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Originally posted by blackelvis
If you had to get something other than a sager...
What would it be?

I'm thinking dell, does anyone have any recomendations... thanks...
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. If you were concerned about battery life than I'd suggest perhaps the dell inspiron 8200. Although Dell's service/support has been a lot of hit and misses the past year so I would be wary of that (just scour the dell boards for some horror stories). Besides I despise their service/support tier format they implemented. Unless you purchase the best there is you'll be lucky to get decent support/service from them if you can actually find a human to speak to that is Compaq 2800 is also a nice compromise between power, portability and performance. Fujitsu also makes very nice battery friendly alternatives and their machines are very nice (not the most powerful but well built)

edit: Well I'll revise my statement as it appears that their service/support format has stabilized somewhat from what I last remembered and they got rid of some of the crap in there. Hopefully their actual service/support will gain some consistency as well.
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post #4 of 16
1/3/03 at 7:24am
I'd get a fujitsu p2000, because if I'm not going to get the best in performance, I might as well get the best in battery life. It's also lighweight, even with a cdrw/dvd drive.
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post #5 of 16
1/3/03 at 9:58am
Dell, Toshiba, and Fujitsu would all be great choices.
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post #6 of 16
1/3/03 at 10:39pm

Other than sager

The new mac powerbook looks attractive, 15.2 widescreen, radeon 9000-64meg,dvd writer,60g hd(the fastest in notebooks),and a est. 5 hour battery time. Not so sure the 1 ghz g4 processor(with 1 meg of cache) would beat all p4-m's(with 512k cache). They say the g4 beats p4-m based notebooks in their tests. Check it out http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...ct_code=299374

Also one of best low priced values that I bought at walmart was a sotec 820p(same manufacture of winbook) that sells for $1089 and has a upgradeable desktop processor.http://www.walmart.com/catalog/searc...6&Continue.y=8
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post #7 of 16
1/3/03 at 11:01pm
That Sotec is pretty good for its price. I'm still hoping for a great performance laptop though, cuz the sotec only has xga, 2 GHz, 20 GB Hd, and i don't know HOW bad the graphics card is. Its CD writer is slow, has an SiS video card with 32 megs shared memory.

Ah. That's why. Shared memory. Get a Sager 2720 if you're going to get shared video memory, and you'll get a lot more too.
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post #8 of 16
1/3/03 at 11:31pm

re: denkc

Yeah, I bought this about two months ago with the same features, they might update it though. It's by far not a dream machine but more like a entry level machine that could be a good 2nd system. One good thing about walmart or sams club is if you have dead pixels..ect. or you just don't like it, you can go down to the store and get your cash back. I wonder why sager does'nt go into stores like alienware is with best buy? I would love to see before I buy.Oh.. there was a misprint about 820p it has 64-meg shared video ram and 512k cache instead of the 256k cache.
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post #9 of 16
1/4/03 at 12:10am
Well, ECS-USA has a somewhat similar model to that of the 5660. The link doesn't specify the price, but based on the model's prices sold over here in Singapore, an equivalent configuration (i.e. UXGA, DVD/CDRW, 512 MB RAM, 40-5400 rpm GB HDD), the pricing is about the equivalent of the 5660, possibly just very slightly cheaper.

http://www.ecsusa.com/products/green732.html

The specs are not exactly correct as well, as there's a UXGA option and also it should be ATI9K. I haven't tried or taken a look at the model itself at the shop over here yet; but a person who's recently picked it up reported 3DMarks of 6900+ without overclocking on default settings.



Rob
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post #10 of 16
1/4/03 at 12:24am
Alienware is doing pretty well because they charge so much for such a high end machine, AND people buy it. They advertise so much, which sends the prices skyrocketing, but it gets more sales. I wish Sager would do the same, by linking with some stores, but I doubt any could or WOULD sell as low as online resellers.
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post #11 of 16
1/4/03 at 12:37am
Yeah, I doubt that 90% of the people that by the 51m realize that the same machine is used by a number of other vendors. I was just looking at alienware's site and saw this link:

"Save Up To Hundreds of Dollars on Your Next Purchase!*"

I don't know why but when I clicked on it for some reason I expected to be taken to www.pctorque.com
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post #12 of 16
1/4/03 at 12:43am
lol, that's funny... you could save hundreds on that system by going to PCTorque (or pretty much any other reseller besides alienware, lol). If I have to get something other than a Sager I'd prolly go for an Inspiron 8200... although toshiba notebooks that use mobile processors have done well thus far.
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post #13 of 16
1/6/03 at 3:52pm
Here's a link to a very interesting thread on Dell's support forum. The title is "Dell Inspiron 8200 vs Toshiba Satellite 5205" Anyone who says that Dell filters/sensors their forums definitely hasn't read this thread. :-)

http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportf...d=97406&page=1

If I were going to buy anything other than a Sager, right now the Toshiba 5205-S703 would definitely be it.
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post #14 of 16
1/6/03 at 4:56pm
That is pretty interesting :-) I do like the toshiba listed there, but I've heard lotsa bad things about toshiba laptops... especially the ones that had desktop processors (this one doesn't, I was just mentioning). Plus, for the price, you get so much more from the 8886... unless you're looking strictly at battery power. My gosh those things are expensive.
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post #15 of 16
1/6/03 at 5:19pm
Actually, the prices listed in the thread are old. You can find one today for $2250 before a $100 mail-in rebate (i.e. $2150). Of course, if you want the extended warranty that will take you up closer to $2500.

These systems are getting pretty good reviews from everything I'm reading. Even though the price range is closer to the 8886, the longer battery life, a *lot* less weight, ability to have two hard drives with the smart bay, SD card slot, built-in wireless, the cool cPad, UXGA LCD, 60GB 5400rpm HD, and the overall sleek design (IMHO) are all reasons to consider it.

Having said that, there's no bones about - the 8886 is the *complete* desktop replacement. As long as you want all the extras, and don't care about the size/weight, the 8886 is certainly the best choice.
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post #16 of 16
1/7/03 at 1:44pm

re: Raven

Where did that guy pick up the ECS-green 732? I been looking for one everywhere! Also it says its supports DDR-333...Very nice indeed
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