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post #21 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
Unless you're going to run a 64-bit distro of linux, it's almost pointless to have one at this point in time.
Actually I will be in the fall, because I'm in grad school in computational linguistics, and that will require running the latest version of linux to get the latest versions of lextools and the like.

In my personal experience, I and people I know have had multiple gateways, and none of them ever had major problems. That may just be our good luck. But just so happens, most of the Sonies and Toshibas I have seen and helped to work on have had major problems. That doesn't mean all Sonys and Toshibas are bad. So in the same way, I don't think you can discredit Gateway just because of your personal experience of one machine.
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post #22 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
Actually I will be in the fall, because I'm in grad school in computational linguistics, and that will require running the latest version of linux to get the latest versions of lextools and the like.

In my personal experience, I and people I know have had multiple gateways, and none of them ever had major problems. That may just be our good luck. But just so happens, most of the Sonies and Toshibas I have seen and helped to work on have had major problems. That doesn't mean all Sonys and Toshibas are bad. So in the same way, I don't think you can discredit Gateway just because of your personal experience of one machine.
If you had read my post it isn't just one machine. It was one laptop. I've worked on tons of desktops.

Seeing as how I've worked with one Gateway laptop (I wonder why, no one buys them) and many desktops, I come to the conclusion that Gateway isn't a company I'm going to endorse. Sorry if that upsets you /shrug
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post #23 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
Toshiba and Sony are ten times the company Gateway is

My current gf's Sattelite has worked like a charm.

If that is the case, I certainly haven't seen the evidence that either Sony or Toshiba is even a halfway reputable company, by the kind of crap that they put out there.
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post #24 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:46pm
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can i purchase a gateway extended warranty or do u guys recommend i stick with the BB for 249? its seems good but it sucks that they dont offer accidental damages.

This notebook/deal seems to good to be true.... the GPU 64 mb scares me, sorry! i am weak and closed minded! but i love everything esle.
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post #25 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:47pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
If that is the case, I certainly haven't seen the evidence that either Sony or Toshiba is even a halfway reputable company, by the kind of crap that they put out there.
I have a feeling you're full of shit.
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post #26 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:55pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
If you had read my post it isn't just one machine. It was one laptop. I've worked on tons of desktops.

Seeing as how I've worked with one Gateway laptop (I wonder why, no one buys them) and many desktops, I come to the conclusion that Gateway isn't a company I'm going to endorse. Sorry if that upsets you /shrug
I can say the exact same thing about Sony/Toshiba experience, and you are not the only one who has work on many machines.

Machines are only as good as their parts and the assembly process, companies like Sony, Toshiba, and Gateway don't even make their own chassis for their LTs. As they shift the sources of the parts and manufacturers of their products, the quality of their product will change. But to claim that Sony and Toshiba have superior quality is simply a ridiculous notion, consider how many complaints they get every year, consider Sony has only a rating of 3.35 /10.00 lifetime at resellerratings: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1640.html
And toshiba has 4.29/10 lifetime :
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller745.html

Consider some of the companies people here decry as having bad qualities like Ibuypower has a rating of 6.25/10 and 7.76 lifetime,
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2001.html
Sony and Toshiba are pretty bad.

The truth is, no large OEM is that high on quality, except IBM and maybe ASUS. The real high quality companies are like falcon-northwest, or voodoo, which will do a much better job assembling and testing their machines than any of the large OEMs.
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post #27 of 54
2/23/05 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
I have a feeling you're full of shit.
If you want to play that game,

How do we know any of the things that you say have any grain of truth to it???

I don't know which continent or country you come from, but from the language you use in your posts, I would think that a little civilization will benefit your kind.
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post #28 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:04pm
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Originally Posted by geraball
can i purchase a gateway extended warranty or do u guys recommend i stick with the BB for 249? its seems good but it sucks that they dont offer accidental damages.

This notebook/deal seems to good to be true.... the GPU 64 mb scares me, sorry! i am weak and closed minded! but i love everything esle.
I'm not sure, actually, if Gateway will allow you to get their extended warrantee, but I'm sure someone else on the forum can help.

BB warrantee is OK, but they are just so darn slow about fixing things, typically > 2weeks in my experience. But one good thing in their warrantee is the battery protection, which will get you a new one once the old one is worn out by constant use.

The 64MB VRAM will be OK for most games, I can play UT2004 without a hitch on high settings w/o AA. However, on HL2, it may cause a few stutters here and there. I have my desktop for real high end games anyways, not too many notebook GPUs will get above 60 fps anyways on HL2 at the highest settings.
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post #29 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
If you want to play that game,

How do we know any of the things that you say have any grain of truth to it???

I don't know which continent or country you come from, but from the language you use in your posts, I would think that a little civilization will benefit your kind.
All I'm going to say is, el oh el.


http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2053.html

This should end the discussion.

You certainly walked into that one didn't you
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post #30 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
If you want to play that game,

How do we know any of the things that you say have any grain of truth to it???

I don't know which continent or country you come from, but from the language you use in your posts, I would think that a little civilization will benefit your kind.

Ive had a toshiba,THEY ARE THE WORST!They dont even compare to gateway in Quality or any other aspect.The screens are flimsy. They burn your legs off!There speakers are the absolute worst(They really are). They are also very easily F'd^ I drop from about 1ft from my bed and my fan broke. As for sony,I wouldnt waste my money on there expensive crap. They are way overrated
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post #31 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:09pm
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Originally Posted by zeanimal2001
Ive had a toshiba,THEY ARE THE WORST!They dont even compare to gateway in Quality or any other aspect.The screens are flimsy. They burn your legs off!There speakers are the absolute worst(They really are). They are also very easily F'd^ I drop from about 1ft from my bed and my fan broke. As for sony,I wouldnt waste my money on there expensive crap. They are way overrated
Says the "e-thug."

Give me a break. Haha.
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post #32 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
All I'm going to say is, el oh el.


http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2053.html

This should end the discussion.

You certainly walked into that one didn't you
Like I said, I never claimed Gateway to have had top notch quality, but all I have pointed out is that all of the major OEMs, with exception of IBM and perhaps a couple of others, are pretty poor. And Sony and Toshiba are certainly poster boys for these. Gateway has lifetime rating of 2.25, nothing to writing home about, but pretty comparable to Sony and Toshiba, especially consider for the same specs, Sony often costs twice the amount, and now we know, For No Good Reason.

If you read my earlier threads, you will know that I am an IBM fan, not a Gateway: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=63399

But I realize what gateway as it is, an OK company to do business with if you have a solid warrantee, and IBM didn't have any A64 LT available, which is what I needed. And Gateway had a very good performance product for a very reasonable price (certainly much better than the price gouging of Sony), so I bought, and am happy with it so far, nothing to complain about.
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post #33 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:28pm
I would never buy from a company that had a reseller rating lower than 1 in the last 6 months

I would suggest no one else should either.
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post #34 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:31pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
I would never buy from a company that had a reseller rating lower than 1 in the last 6 months

I would suggest no one else should either.

I would really not buy from any company that had a reseller rating of less than 8.00 lifetime (temporary ratings flctuate, it could go down if one customer woke up on the wrong side of the bed), unless of course, when they offer me a deal I can't refuse, which is why I have my lappy now. And this is what the 7422 is today, an awesome deal for the amount of computational power and the rest of the specifications. Try to get a Sony with Dothan 2.0 (roughly equivalen to 3200) 1GB RAM, MR9550, 80GB HDD, etc etc, for under 1300 USD.
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post #35 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:47pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
Says the "e-thug."

Give me a break. Haha.
Hey,if u didnt know its a group
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post #36 of 54
2/23/05 at 10:53pm
I've been really happy with my 7405GX, other then the cracked hinge it's been running smoothly and playing all my games fine. I've leave it running days at time encoding DVDs and burning without it ever over heating or shutting down. Next best thing closest price wise is probably the MWave/Abs Mayhem:http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...224-005&depa=3 ;
followed by the Ferrari 3400...
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post #37 of 54
2/23/05 at 11:30pm


Geez.. all this Gateway/anti-Gateway discussion that people completely fail to realize that Gateway doesn't even technically make this notebook. This is an Arima W730-K8, originally introduced by eMachines with the M68xx line and Vodoo with the m:860. This is a rebadge of the eMachines M68xx distro, which was picked up by Gateway when they acquired eMachines but certainly not made by Gateway.
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post #38 of 54
2/24/05 at 3:32am
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Originally Posted by AzN
I think the gateway's 9550 (which is just a 9600 underclocked) is obviously the only part of the notebook that the dell 9200 is better, but the 9700 isn't significantly better. If you overclock you can probaly have 9700 speeds, but if you don't than the difference will only be like 10% - 15%.

Thats great to hear... how about the 64 mb card, should that worry me? assuming i overclock, how big a difference is a 128 mb 9700 vs a 64 mb 9550?

Thanks for the great/clear post.
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post #39 of 54
2/24/05 at 4:19am
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
But that's expected. My laptop isn't for mobility. It's a desktop replacement.
The 7422GX is also considered a desktop replacement and I get close to 3 hours on the battery.
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post #40 of 54
2/24/05 at 4:23am
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Originally Posted by geraball
Thats great to hear... how about the 64 mb card, should that worry me? assuming i overclock, how big a difference is a 128 mb 9700 vs a 64 mb 9550?

Thanks for the great/clear post.
The 64 MB should not affect anything except the latest first person shooter games at high resolution. A game like Doom III or HL 2 will be affected to some extent. I have been able to play UnrealTournament 2004 with no problems at high res. Remember, the 9550 is just an underclocked version of the 9600, which is in turn an underclocked version of the 9700. It was underclocked to keep the heat down and maintain a reasonable battery life. In a cool environment or with some external cooling, it can easily be clocked to 9700 level, although it might need a video BIOS flash (if the manufacturer locked the OC features).
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