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post #41 of 109
2/24/05 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
A Pentium M 2.1 runs as fast as an AMD64 4000? I not think so. closer MAYBE to a AMD64 2.8.
Maybe you should read the review before making that statement.

Might want to start here and look: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2356&p=3
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post #42 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:07pm
Alienware has to play catch-up!!! Dell has just delievered a massive bitchslap to Alienware!!!
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post #43 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by Maklar
Maybe you should read the review before making that statement.

Might want to start here and look: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2356&p=3
The review only refers to gaming performance and is geared towards video cards. I'm talking about processors. Maybe you should read my original post? LOL. Don't take that the wrong way, I understand what you're saying. I don't expect much difference in gaming performance, but there is a huge processing difference between an AMD64 and a Pentium M. I'm not sure 133mhz FSB and 1.13mhz processor speed will make much a difference for me.
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post #44 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Alienware has to play catch-up!!! Dell has just delievered a massive bitchslap to Alienware!!!
Alienware is just a poser. Sager and Clevo are the ones being challanged here. Alienware will just follow along and add glowing alien eyes to whatever Clevo comes up with.
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post #45 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:32pm
I'm with Sonicwind. A 64bit Machine to boot with a Pci-e compliant 6800go or a mobile x800 is what im in the wait for... However, I may just change my mind if nothing arises soon and Dell reduces shipping time. What a monster!

Oh, and in regards to Clevo, They are done dancing as far as I'm concerned. That near 15 pound brick with the non-Wuxga screen and the redundant heat issue is not going to make a comeback. Intel 6 will not for the life of clevo save anything. Wouldnt be surprised if that chip added to the problems in the 9860. Did i mention the crappy battery life? Tsyk

Go Dell and I hope that that exact same thing can eventually be done with an Amd. Someday...

P.S. Alienware is barely worth mentioning. Alienware sucks and currently is in Clevo's palm. Lower than dog shit...

please see that i am not a 9860 hater. It just cant be upgraded any further.. It's an old dog that needs to be replaced
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post #46 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:38pm
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Originally Posted by bookwater
However, I may just change my mind if nothing arises soon and Dell reduces shipping time.(
I think you'll notice that the shipping date of 4/8 will stay the same for the next couple of weeks and the "build time" will reduce each day. They really don't have all the parts in yet is all. That's the way it was with the 9200 back in Nov.

I have a dream that they will release the 9300 tomorrow with a 2 week ship time because the parts they are waiting on are just the cover pieces for the XPS2. I think I would go ahead and buy one if the price is good, because I don't think AMD64+pci-e machines are going to come out until 3rd quarter or later this year.
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post #47 of 109
2/24/05 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
The review only refers to gaming performance and is geared towards video cards. I'm talking about processors. Maybe you should read my original post? LOL. Don't take that the wrong way, I understand what you're saying. I don't expect much difference in gaming performance, but there is a huge processing difference between an AMD64 and a Pentium M. I'm not sure 133mhz FSB and 1.13mhz processor speed will make much a difference for me.
And if you read my post it says I'm talking about gaming
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post #48 of 109
2/24/05 at 10:19pm
Well I took the plunge and order the XPS2 today (Specs listed in sig)
This notebook is replacing my Inspiron 4100, so I was LONG overdue.
Thanks for everyone post today with all there pros & cons, that helped me decide!!!
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post #49 of 109
2/24/05 at 11:44pm
Hey guys

I was confused, poised at an Acer 8104 or a 9860 purchase, now this comes along! This machine seems perfect, decent weight and size, esp. when compared to the behemoth 9860. Anyhow, I think Dell's memory prices are out of control... I priced out corsair 1g sodimms for the acer pc3200's, at 250 ea or so. Anyone know the ram config of this machine?
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post #50 of 109
2/25/05 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by dma550
Hey guys

I was confused, poised at an Acer 8104 or a 9860 purchase, now this comes along! This machine seems perfect, decent weight and size, esp. when compared to the behemoth 9860. Anyhow, I think Dell's memory prices are out of control... I priced out corsair 1g sodimms for the acer pc3200's, at 250 ea or so. Anyone know the ram config of this machine?
You are going to want 533MHz DDR2 SoDIMM, not DDR1
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post #51 of 109
2/25/05 at 12:43am
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Originally Posted by dma550
Hey guys

I was confused, poised at an Acer 8104 or a 9860 purchase, now this comes along! This machine seems perfect, decent weight and size, esp. when compared to the behemoth 9860. Anyhow, I think Dell's memory prices are out of control... I priced out corsair 1g sodimms for the acer pc3200's, at 250 ea or so. Anyone know the ram config of this machine?
Tech Specs

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/valueselect.html
Model # VS1GSDS533D2

Info:
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=23822
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post #52 of 109
2/25/05 at 1:13am
Floating point performance is dismal which rules out the XPS as a 3d rendering machine, despite the cool Ultra chip. Sadly, because of this I have to scratch it from my list and prolly head back to the very big, very heavy and very hot Sager 9860.
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post #53 of 109
2/25/05 at 2:13am
Where did you see dismal FP performance? My 2.0GHz Pentium-M had double the whetstone performance of my P4 3.0 system.
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post #54 of 109
2/25/05 at 2:37am
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2342&p=7

Even with dual channel and faster Ram it'll still trail a 3.6 or 3.8 p4 by quite a margin
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post #55 of 109
2/25/05 at 2:55am
If I were you, I'd benchmark your app on a P-M system to see if that synthetic benchmark really applies to you. Other synthetic FPU benchmarks show a P-M 2.0 running close to a P4 3.6.
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post #56 of 109
2/25/05 at 3:10am
I'd love to but it's hard to do with limited access to anything with a P-M around here. All I can do is rely on others benches and hope someone uses the same apps as I do. I use extremely FPU intensive renderers but benchnmarks rarely test real world FPU stuff in a way that's meaningful to me. I know how P4's perform in rendering and have severe doubts that the P-M can match it. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
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post #57 of 109
2/25/05 at 5:21am
[quote=PSYCHO[URL=http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/valueselect.html]http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/valueselect.html[/url]
Model # VS1GSDS533D2
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I did the same research at 4am yesterday and couldn't find a single place that actually carries a 1GB stick of DDR2-533. Do you know of someplace to buy it?
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post #58 of 109
2/25/05 at 6:19am
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Originally Posted by Smeggy
Floating point performance is dismal which rules out the XPS as a 3d rendering machine, despite the cool Ultra chip. Sadly, because of this I have to scratch it from my list and prolly head back to the very big, very heavy and very hot Sager 9860.
I also find this hard to believe. However I have not really read anything specific to a comparision involving FPU intensive applications. I am comfortable that for what I use my system for that the P-M platform is quite good i.e. business apps, software development, and gaming.
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post #59 of 109
2/25/05 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by Kissarmy
I wish they would release the XPS2 in the UK
I agree the XPS2 has the perfect spec, I also very much like the design.

Please Dell UK if your reading these forums make the XPS2 available in the UK.
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post #60 of 109
2/25/05 at 10:54am
Now I just need to convince my job to buy me one...
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