Originally Posted by scsi lvd
I'm always been suspicious of AMD chips from right when they first came out and watched in horror as some of my friends mobos got burned out because of heat/fan problems with the Athlon chips..... and again software problems when rumming with power hungry video cards.
There's a reason why Intel has a lock on the mobile market.... putting an amd into a computer is "racey"..... putting it into a notebook is just plain asking for trouble......
What are you talking?
Only the Pentium-M is cooler than the Mobile Athlon64 processors. Also the new Turion64 will have 25W to 35W TDP (near Pentium-M).
The heat problems only apply for the early Athlon processors (Athlons with Thunderbird core). Since the Athlon XP (Tbred-B and Barton core) the heat problems are gone. My current desktop is a silent system (my ATI Radeon 9600XT is the loudest component) and is equiped with an Athlon XP 3200+ (idle: 38°C - load: 48°C). All guys with heat problems don't use the right cooling solution (buy a Zalman CNPS-7000A-Cu).
The 47xx based notebooks with Intel processor produce the same (Northwood) or more (Prescott) heat. The cooling solution of that Clevo series was not very effective (8790 and 9860 are designed better) but they are good and nice looking notebooks.
So it is wrong to say that AMD based notebooks always cause heat problems
(it depends on the cooling solution).
Look at the eMachines M68xx or the Voodoo Envy:M860. It is a great notebook which produces only 1.5 Sone under load (Pentium-M based notebooks produce around 1 Sone and the Clevo P4 notebooks around 3 Sone) and stays really cool (good and silent cooling solution).
Intel only has the lock in the mobile sector because they have the market position to put preasure on the different ODMs (for example: if the ODM has to much AMD based notebooks in his product portfolio the price conditions for Intel parts will get worse).
Originally Posted by Two Man Riot
what he means is that AMD chips almost always run much hotter then Intel chips when using similar cooling methods. In my experience working with desktops...i always add a few more fans and a non-stock heatsink when building AMD systems. Personally i'm an intel guy and my 4760 that is going on 1.5 years old doesn't even run that hot...so i think it is definitely a cooling issue...which might be causing damage to your video card.
Since the Athlon64 AMD based systems are cooler than Intel Desktop systems. It is fact that the Athlon and Athlon XP processors were slightly hotter than P4 Northwood systems but that doesn't matter so much because they are designed for higher temps (Athlon XP: max. temperature around 90°C - P4 Northwood: max. temperature around 75°C). But with a good cooler no problems occur with them.
Look at the power consumption of the different CPUs:http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/200...m4_570-20.html
The Athlon64 3400+ is in Power consumption (heat) equal to the P4 Northwood with 2600MHz.
Look at the new Athlon64 Winchester processors. The only have 32W power consumption (P4 Prescott 560 has 93W).