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post #21 of 32
2/25/05 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by dellbert
Yes, ugly and heavy, but also evil, mean, and nasty! In a good way, of course
Another piece of cosmic junk produced by the listless Dell.
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post #22 of 32
2/25/05 at 4:55am
Wow! That's powerful for games.

Personally I don't think it's portable anymore though, more like draggable (screen size, weight, extra batteries, etc.) DTR.

But hey, if one wants a DTR, one must pay the price of admission

BTW, I wonder if the video acceleration on that Go 6800 Ultra is equally broken in hardware as it is on every other 6800 chip so far? That would be a minor bummer, imho.
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post #23 of 32
2/25/05 at 4:56am
Yeah go ahead and order one, it'll take 2 months to arrive on your doorstep, and by that time windows xp 64 will be out. Other than that, it does appear to be a good machine. The 8.5 lbs for a 17" screen is quite impressive. I don't know much about pentium M's but those benchmarks are blatant indicators of the xps2's gaming capabilities. But I still just can't bring myself to like Dell. I find that when something becomes overly popular its quality decreases. I'm sure something just as good is right around the corner. Whats wrong dell? Why no 64bit cpu??
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post #24 of 32
2/25/05 at 6:14am
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Originally Posted by vexxman
Why no 64bit cpu??
For one thing, AT's review says...

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We aren't likely to see the Go 6800 Ultra paired with anything but a Pentium M due to the TDP requirements of vendors. Mobile Pentium 4 and Mobile Athlon 64 parts are still too hot to be able to economically run a Go 6800 Ultra as well.
However, another article on the XPS 2 says that we will see other vendors releasing models will the Go 6800 Ultra in coming months. It will be interesting to see what other brands come up with, or whether they just drop it in current models like the Clevos. An Ultra paired with a Turion would be mighty nice...
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post #25 of 32
2/25/05 at 12:04pm
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and by that time windows xp 64
What does that have to do with anything? There is likely to be zero performance benefit running windows in 64-bit mode and quite a long ramp up time before drivers are 64bit native for all of the odds and ends people hang off their PC's.

Based on all of the benchmarks I've seen, the Pentium M 2Ghz performs within 5-10% of the top of the line AMD 64 FX55 and the 3.4Ghz P4EE when running games. All of the processors are more than enough for office type apps. The AMD line is decisively ahead in linux and 3D rendering performance. The P4 pulls ahead in media type applicaitons.

All in all the Pentium M is an amazing little chip, and it calls into question exactly what all of the complexity, cost, power consumption, noise and heat that the P4 and Athlon cost actually do for performance.

All in all, the Dell XPS2 will be a pretty potent gaming package, and I think in most cases users will not be able to tell the difference when gaming between it and a high end Athlon64 FX55 or P4EE desktop.
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post #26 of 32
2/25/05 at 2:47pm
hmm.. not bad
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post #27 of 32
2/25/05 at 7:42pm
basically if you're a gamer, that's the machine to buy. If you need a laptop for heavy calculations a P4 is recommended because the video card doesn't matter.
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post #28 of 32
2/25/05 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by kevhuynh
This is on a laptop. I currently own three notebooks and a tablet (Acer 800lci, Dell 600m, IBM T20, Toshiba M200) and over 15 in the last decade and have yet to see a single laptop mobo bios with any decent options whatsoever. Bottleneck or not, those #'s don't lie. If you know of a laptop that comes close performance wise I'm all ears.
They are impressive but what are the rest of the specs on those systems it compared against and some of the other highend gaming systems are not even listed. 15 computers in the last decade good i have worked on about 700+ in the last year DEll, Compaq, IBM, etc. I am not saying that its not a good system i am saying that dell motherboards are a bottleneck.

kevhuynh how you like the new mall?
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post #29 of 32
2/25/05 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by DarqHelmet
They are impressive but what are the rest of the specs on those systems it compared against and some of the other highend gaming systems are not even listed. 15 computers in the last decade good i have worked on about 700+ in the last year DEll, Compaq, IBM, etc. I am not saying that its not a good system i am saying that dell motherboards are a bottleneck.

kevhuynh how you like the new mall?
If you've worked on that many systems than I'm sure you've realized that the primary bottleneck is in the cpu/video card and that any performance enhancements via the motherboard is in the order of a few small percentages. Hell I have a DFI Lanparty after using a plain jane Chaintech A64 board and if run on base settings there is NO difference in performance. The only differences reveal themselves after turning on the overclocks etc. So do Dell mobo's have bottleneck relative to a system that can be extensively tweaked? Yes. Huge bottleneck? Hardly...even though I'm comparing the desktop realm where bottlenecks in motherboards...IF ANY...reveal themselves on an order of magnitudes over any on a notebook. Honestly, I agree with you for the most part especially with Dell desktops but in the notebook realm, I have yet to see a review that has shown any particular system given equal video/ram/cpu to perform any differently than the other. It's really a non-issue as we both can agree it's a great system.


That said...what mall?
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post #30 of 32
2/25/05 at 11:54pm
That thing is bloody cheap. I just configured one with 2GHz, 1GB, 60GB 7,2k, DVD burner with DL, spare 9 cell battery, BT & WLAN and you get a 256MB Stick and a backpack for free. And all that for less than 2000 Euros. That's almost racism compared to European prices. /rant
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post #31 of 32
2/25/05 at 11:54pm
True I just have a problem with Dell not using "real" mother board ASUS and such


the mall in HB with Barnes and Noble the New Ciruit City and Khols i know its not done yet but what do your think, better then the Block or spectruim? I hope this pulls people back into the city and I wont have to drive as far to shop with my wife.
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post #32 of 32
2/26/05 at 12:11am
Just to let you guys know, the 6800 Go Ultra is a very different chip than the 6800 Go rev 1 & 2. The Go Ultra is a die shrunk to .11u, instead of the .13u chip that the first two 6800 Go revisions use.

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=66049
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