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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
While there are so many XPS2 threads building up, I thought it might be good to have one for those who have placed 9300 orders. I am interested to know what sort of configs people are going for and also the expected ship dates for these systems. There are now rumours circulating that the graphics card in the 9300 is identical to the XPS2 and I don't think we will really get confirmation one way or the other on this until someone actually gets their hands on one. So as well as letting us know what you're order details are, kepp us updated on shipping status and get some benches going when you get them.

Cheers
post #2 of 20
Im in!
post #3 of 20
From what I hear, the 9300's nVidia 6800 256MB will have slower memory.
I.E. the XPS2's have DDR3 while the i9300's will be DDR2/1. Which makes for a substancial difference in performance. i9300's won't be Ultra.

U.N.inspector
post #4 of 20
From what I hear, the 9300's nVidia 6800 256MB will have slower memory.
I.E. the XPS2's have DDR3 while the i9300's will be DDR2/1. Which makes for a substancial difference in performance. i9300's won't be Ultra.

U.N.inspector
post #5 of 20
From what I hear, the 9300's nVidia 6800 256MB will have slower memory.
I.E. the XPS2's have DDR3 while the i9300's will be DDR2/1. Which makes for a substancial difference in performance. i9300's won't be Ultra.

U.N.inspector
post #6 of 20
Yo Noids.....mate.....I want an explanation from M Dell why we are not getting the XPS2 in the land of oz.....am starting to feel like a second rate citizen of the world !!!
post #7 of 20
It seems that the 9300 is the equivalent of the XPS2 in countries other than the USA. At the moment here in the UK we have the 9300 and the 9100, but no XPS. The 9100 is the UK equivalent of the XPS2, so I would guess that the 9300 is the UK equivalent of the XPS. Whether or not this means an identical graphics card is being used I am not sure. The only problem with this argument is that the 9300 seems to have replaced the 9200, whereas in the US the 9200 is still an acitve product line and the XPS2 doesn't seem to have displaced it. I am not sure why the 9300 hasn't been introduced over there as yet other than the reasons above.

I was advised by the salesperson who I placed the order with that the only difference was the clock speed - the memory was the same. I will see once the laptop arrives if is the case.

After haggling with the supervisor to get some extra off the laptop, I managed to get him to discount £200 off the price of the laptop, in addition to the £150 offer on the website. The spec. I ordered is as follows:

Pentium M 2.13GHz
512MB DDR2 RAM
17" WUXGA 1920x1200 Screen with TrueLife
80GB 5,400RPM HDD
8x DVD+/-RW
Primary 80WHr 9 Cell Battery
Secondary 80WHr 9 Cell Battery
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Go
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth 2.0
Intel ProWireless 2200 802.11 b/g
Windows XP Home SP2
3 Year Next Business Day Warranty
3 Year Complete Care Accidental Damage Warranty

This all came to £1839 inc. VAT & delivery.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by Fuzzb3k

I was advised by the salesperson who I placed the order with that the only difference was the clock speed - the memory was the same. I will see once the laptop arrives if is the case.
Keep in mind the phone sales people are often a little out of touch when it comes to the technical workings of the systems. They're basically reading the specs off a screen, and probably have never seen anything they sell.

As someone mentioned earlier, we aren't going to know until people get the units in their hands.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Fuzzb3k
It seems that the 9300 is the equivalent of the XPS2 in countries other than the USA. At the moment here in the UK we have the 9300 and the 9100, but no XPS. The 9100 is the UK equivalent of the XPS2, so I would guess that the 9300 is the UK equivalent of the XPS. Whether or not this means an identical graphics card is being used I am not sure. The only problem with this argument is that the 9300 seems to have replaced the 9200, whereas in the US the 9200 is still an acitve product line and the XPS2 doesn't seem to have displaced it. I am not sure why the 9300 hasn't been introduced over there as yet other than the reasons above.

I was advised by the salesperson who I placed the order with that the only difference was the clock speed - the memory was the same. I will see once the laptop arrives if is the case.

After haggling with the supervisor to get some extra off the laptop, I managed to get him to discount £200 off the price of the laptop, in addition to the £150 offer on the website. The spec. I ordered is as follows:

Pentium M 2.13GHz
512MB DDR2 RAM
17" WUXGA 1920x1200 Screen with TrueLife
80GB 5,400RPM HDD
8x DVD+/-RW
Primary 80WHr 9 Cell Battery
Secondary 80WHr 9 Cell Battery
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Go
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth 2.0
Intel ProWireless 2200 802.11 b/g
Windows XP Home SP2
3 Year Next Business Day Warranty
3 Year Complete Care Accidental Damage Warranty

This all came to £1839 inc. VAT & delivery.

Not a bad price for the UK. I don't know why you Brits complain about high prices, its not like you guys get paid in Dollars and purchase in Pounds. If that sort of laptop was $1839 I'd be all over it.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by 5150 Joker
Not a bad price for the UK. I don't know why you Brits complain about high prices, its not like you guys get paid in Dollars and purchase in Pounds. If that sort of laptop was $1839 I'd be all over it.
In that calculation you're assuming that if you get paid $80000 a year in the US you get paid L80000 in the UK. That just not the case
post #11 of 20
check out my thread too guys...i need some advice. when you get your machine mate have a good look at the screen..if it rocks i may get an order identical to yours
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by mattias
In that calculation you're assuming that if you get paid $80000 a year in the US you get paid L80000 in the UK. That just not the case

Yes I'm sure a brit would probably make 35-40k pounds if someone in the US is making $80k but then you also have to factor in other benefits they have that we don't - socialized health care for one. So they pay a higher fee for a laptop but then we pay out the ass for health care, seems more in their favor if you ask me. Its not like we pay low taxes here, 30%+ is a killer especially coupled with local taxes. But I digress, I still don't think the price is too bad over there for pounds.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by 5150 Joker
Not a bad price for the UK. I don't know why you Brits complain about high prices, its not like you guys get paid in Dollars and purchase in Pounds. If that sort of laptop was $1839 I'd be all over it.
The actual price should have been £2038, as configured on the Dell website. I had to jump through hoops to get them to discount my order.

The salaries here aren't that great, we get taxed 22% of our income plus National Insurance tax and house prices cost 10x the average annual income. With regard national health care - yes our health care is free but it is worthless. The NHS is a shambles over here - not enough bed spaces, doctors and nurses are in constraint. you can't even register with an NHS doctor over here because they just refuse to take any more patients on.

I get private health care through my company and pay for my dentist, but still have to go to my NHS doctor to get referred to a private clinic - hence if you don't have a doctor then the private health care is useless.

Anyway, back onto the point... the salesperson that told me that was a supervisor and he confirmed it with the 'technical guys'. I'm not sure what information they were looking at so I guess we will have to wait until the laptops arrive or reviews start appearing.
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Fuzzb3k

Anyway, back onto the point... the salesperson that told me that was a supervisor and he confirmed it with the 'technical guys'. I'm not sure what information they were looking at so I guess we will have to wait until the laptops arrive or reviews start appearing.
Yeah, I assumed that would be the case. The point that has been risen in another therad and some of the reviews of the XPS2 are that the 6800Ultra is actually based on the 0.11u NV42 core rather than the 0.13u NV41 core of the stock 6800. Regardless of the GDDR3 memory, this means that the core can withstand higher clockspeeds with less heat output, which is what allows them to run at 450MHz speeds (higher than the Desktop 6800 cores!!!).

Nvidia website specs do not point to any architectural differences between the two cards except that the Ultra has higher clocks. The info we need the Dell techs (or laptop owners themselves as they recieve their machines) to confirm are the memory type (DDR/GDDR3), the core architecture (NV41,NV42) and the clock speeds of each. We have heard so much conflicting info however that I am sure we will have to wait until we can see for ourselves.

Cheers
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by 5150 Joker
Yes I'm sure a brit would probably make 35-40k pounds if someone in the US is making $80k but then you also have to factor in other benefits they have that we don't - socialized health care for one. So they pay a higher fee for a laptop but then we pay out the ass for health care, seems more in their favor if you ask me. Its not like we pay low taxes here, 30%+ is a killer especially coupled with local taxes. But I digress, I still don't think the price is too bad over there for pounds.
you've never had to deal with the NHS.../em shudder

but i do say it all in jest but while discusing prices of notebooks i dont see how health care comes into it :P
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Noids
Yeah, I assumed that would be the case. The point that has been risen in another therad and some of the reviews of the XPS2 are that the 6800Ultra is actually based on the 0.11u NV42 core rather than the 0.13u NV41 core of the stock 6800. Regardless of the GDDR3 memory, this means that the core can withstand higher clockspeeds with less heat output, which is what allows them to run at 450MHz speeds (higher than the Desktop 6800 cores!!!).

Nvidia website specs do not point to any architectural differences between the two cards except that the Ultra has higher clocks. The info we need the Dell techs (or laptop owners themselves as they recieve their machines) to confirm are the memory type (DDR/GDDR3), the core architecture (NV41,NV42) and the clock speeds of each. We have heard so much conflicting info however that I am sure we will have to wait until we can see for ourselves.

Cheers


look at thread: The 6800go in 9300 is ultra!

this statement is not true but in this thread u can see that the cooling systems of i9300 and xps are different. xps has 2 heatpipes for the gpu, the 9300 has only one heatpipe... so it could be difficult to overclock the 9300 gpu to reach xps performance.

i read somewhere the xps will be released in 2-3 weeks here in europe.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
It does seem as though the form factors are very similar however, which promises there is at least potential to upgrade to the ultra down the track... Oh well, I will still cling to the hope that Dell recognises that there is a market for ultra high performing laptops elsewhere around the globe.

Cheers
post #18 of 20
I wouldn't count on those pictures being fact. I mean one of them is a drawing. Also didn't the orginal XPS initially offer the 9800, and then later the 9100 had it as an option as well.

NVidia lists 2 different chips or configurations with the only difference being the pickel fill rate.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/go_6800.html

But that doesn't mean Dell didn't save development money and just down clock an Ultra on the 9300. We won't know for sure until there are end users with both models who can analyse what's in their systems.

I guess I hope that the XPS2 has a unique card in order to justify my extravagent purchase.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
Sorry to bump this Stu, but I was noticing lots of 9300 orders popping up and thought it might be good to get them all in the same place again. Still interested to see the specs on the 9300s that are getting ordered and proxpective delivery dates for them.

Cheers
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
NVidia lists 2 different chips or configurations with the only difference being the pickel fill rate.
Is pickel only the green pixels?
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