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post #21 of 43
Not to sound stupid or anything, but according to the second picture down on this page:
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2362&p=2

You can run two PCIE x1 slots back to back? And what is that funky brown connector behind the PCI slot?

BTW, I am so excited about Yonah/Jonah!!!
post #22 of 43
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post #23 of 43
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Wait until the last minute you can to make your purchase, otherwise if your just chasing the best technology you'll be chasing an uncatchable ghost.
My theory is to wait until the release of a new product and then buy the product it is replacing--generally very cheap and usually still very good tech. I bought my 8600 right after the XPS came out.
post #24 of 43
i bought my i5150 thinking that the geforce fx 5200 is good enough to handle my gaming needs but i was soooo wrong... i mean i'm not a hardcore gamer, but i'd like to see my computer being able to handle all those games out there at least when i bought it, which is less than a year ago... other than that, the i5150 has served me very well and i am kind of sad that i've ordered the ixps gen 2 to replace it when it's actually still fully functional. hopefully with the pci-e cards, my ixps gen 2 will be upgradeable... but will it actually be? what with dual gpu video cards coming up and dual core cpu? ah well, my theory is that it'll cost way too much to get the yonah when it comes out because of the .65nm technology and intel will definitely jack up the prices. that's why i decided to get the ixps gen 2 and hopefully, this one'll serve me well for 3 yrs or so...
post #25 of 43
Meh, postpone, postpone, postpone, copy AMD, announce plans to make their own, postpone, postpone, finally a "new" CPU that's marginally faster than the current one and sucks up batteries a bit faster. Sound familiar?
post #26 of 43
i noticed that the ASUS Z71V supports up to 3.0GHz Yonah processors. say when yonah gets released and i want to upgrade, what will be the difference between doing that and buying a new "yonah laptop"?
post #27 of 43
More interesting info:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03..._yonah_gaming/

Here's the executive summary. The P4 has had an advantage over P-M systems at media handling, even as the P-M catches up in other areas due to the P4's Netburst architecture. If you've ever wondered why a P-M or Athlon 64 can cream the P4 in some tests, but then the same P4 suddenly comes back and beats the other chip at MPEG encoding, audio ripping, 3D rendering, etc. well, Netburst is why.

Sooo... to address this, the Yonah chips will have SSE, SSE2, and SSE3, equalizing that feature gap vs. the P4 and making them much better at media operations than previous P-M / Centrino systems.

There are also improvements in power management and wireless networking.
post #28 of 43
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Originally Posted by KevDA
Funny, those are all points I've made in the past and still agree with.

Let's put it another way, though. If I were to get a Sonoma based system when I still have a perfectly functional XPS Gen1 that has not let me down once, knowing full well that dual core systems that will have a quantum leap in CPU performance (rather than the incremental ones we're seeing these days) are just around the corner... I'd feel pretty silly...
ohh ok, you're just deciding to skip this generation because you have the generation prior to it.

I unfortunately have no generation of notebook .
post #29 of 43
I have to laugh here. My notebook MR9600 and Centrino 1.4 and 1 gig of mem easily plays any game or runs any app I want or can forsee well into 2006.

Daely
post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by tdewey10
My theory is to wait until the release of a new product and then buy the product it is replacing--generally very cheap and usually still very good tech. I bought my 8600 right after the XPS came out.
That is also a very good idea, especially for people looking to save $$$.
post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
ohh ok, you're just deciding to skip this generation because you have the generation prior to it.

I unfortunately have no generation of notebook .
'Xactly.

At no point did I say the XPS 2 / 9300 were bad systems, just that I wasn't jumping on one. If you're at the part of your buying cycle (or just starting it ) where you need a new lappy, they look like cool choices.
post #32 of 43
Thread Starter 
http://theinquirer.net/?article=21549

"This stuff will all be built int 2005 concept mobile PCs, with a number of original design manufacturers such as Compal and Lenovo putting together systems."

Dell's are Compals. So it looks like Dell will get them in 2006 introducing a upgrade to the inspiron 6000, 9300, XPS Gen 2.

That's a full year folks.
post #33 of 43
I haven't read anywhere that Yonah won't be compatable with current 915 PM chipsets. I did read over at anandtech that Yonah won't be 64-bit compatable. Plus, I don't think Yonah will be revolutionary performance wise, just evolutionary.
post #34 of 43
I'm looking forward to whatever is released in 2009. That's the year that I plan to upgrade my notebook after I get my XPS2.
post #35 of 43
I'm looking forward to 2027

Screwlaptops!!! I'm gonna get me a cornea top!!!
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by ilovegames
I'm looking forward to whatever is released in 2009. That's the year that I plan to upgrade my notebook after I get my XPS2.
Same I won't be upgrading my XPS 2 until at least 2007-2008.
post #37 of 43
My 9300 should last awhile.
post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by |-007-|
I haven't read anywhere that Yonah won't be compatable with current 915 PM chipsets. I did read over at anandtech that Yonah won't be 64-bit compatable. Plus, I don't think Yonah will be revolutionary performance wise, just evolutionary.
Why not?

- 2 Dothan cores with 2MB cache, each clocked higher than the current ones.
- Includes SSE, SSE2, and SSE3 which the current models don't have.
- FSB 667 vs. 533 so it gets fed from memory faster.

Prolly won't be 2x faster, but should be more than a 10% increase
post #39 of 43
nice news! ... why not 64 bits ? ... rsrsr.

I thinking in buy XPS2, and Q1-Q2 2006, buy a great model with "Centrino 2" (Yonah)...


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post #40 of 43
To correct everyone in this forum that is confused about the next Intel mobile platform, and to stop the mislabeling of technologies. The next generation Centrio platform is "Napa" and this will be the third generation of Centrino, "Sonoma" is what Intel just released January 21st - the second generation, and "Carmel" was the first generation of the Centrino platform.

What is Yonah you ask? Yonah is a 65nm, dual core chip, that will replace Dothan in the Pentium M line up. Yonah will be clocked at 2.67GHz, running at 667MHz FSB, have 2MB of shared L2 Cache, and consume 31 watts of power. Yonah will not have EM64T right out of the gate, but will feature VT (Virtualisation Technology) and AMT (Active Management Technology). Their is a slight chance (under 10%) Yonah will get EM64T towards Q4 of 2006, but Intel has officaly confirmed that "Merom", the chip succeeding "Yonah" will have full EM64T support.

The break down the third generation Centrino platform "Napa" goes as followed:
  • Chipset: "Calistoga"
  • CPU: "Yonah"
  • Wireless: "Golan"

The third generation Centrino platform "Napa" will be released in Q1 of 2006, despite any Q4 2005 rumors. You won't see Calistoga, Yonah, or Golan released separately in late 2005, as some of you belive. Their won't be a "Centrio 2", it will still be called "Centrino" but will be the 3rd generation of the Centrino family.

I hope this helps solve the confusion around hear about what Centrino is, what generation it's on, and whats going to happen during the next year. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask away.
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