Sager 4880 released - Page 5

I disagree

Guess it depends on how you read it

At least out little discussion is keeping this thread alive

Nonetheless im looking forward to a review of this specific model. I really hope its good because its got everything i need.

Pctorque writes it should ship on friday (18-03-05), so i guess we will know soon enough.

Well, every benchmark I saw in that article except one gave a very clear advantage to the 533mhz memory. That included the synthetic benchmarks, the 3d benchmarks and the real world application benchmarks.

Still wish we'd get an answer as to why Sager/Clevo chose to go with the slower memory. I went with a Dell 9300 (should receive tomorrow) primarily because I couldn't see buying a Sonoma machine with 333mhz memory. I think I would have rather had a Sager...they just don't have anything that can compete with the 9300 right now.

Yes it would be very nice to know why they put DDR333 in that machine. I sent them an email a couple of days ago when i thought i was a typo, hope i hear from them.

I have also looked at the 9300 (and the XPS Gen 2), both look very nice, they are just sooooo expensive in Denmark If you put the Geforce 6800 Go in the 9300, the 4880 cant keep up thats for sure

Have you seen this yet? http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5871.html

Might be available in your area as soon as May. Had that been available when I ordered my 9300 (with the 6800!) I think I would have had a very difficult decision to make.

This laptop is a joke loool.
Come on sager stop kidding its not serious to sale this laptop when dell release the 9300.
Michael dell:1 sager:0

Sorry, but....

I'd take this notebook over the Dell anyday. After my experiences, I have no intention of doing business with Dell at all.

And, I should point out that the 4880 seems to be a much more capable system for the money than the 9300. You won't get a Dell for that price as good as the Sager.

One major complaint about the 4880 that I notice is the screen. Is SXGA that bad? I mean, you really can't expect to smoothly play the latest games on resolutions higher than 1400x1000... right? The x700 256mb is great, but I highly doubt that you can play something graphic-intensive like far cry at the highest settings without some skips. I mean UXGA would be nice, but would there be any real need for it in the 4880?

Enlighten me.

Really? I was just in the market for a notebook (my 1st) and after elimating the Compaq I6000, Sager 4791 and 7620 and the Acer 8104, the last two on my short list were this 4880 and the Dell 9300. As much as I would have liked to have gone with a Sager, I finally decided to go with the 9300. I just priced both of them out and if you price out the 4880 on PCTorque with pretty much the default options (only adding Windows XP for $77) you come up with a total of $1497. Pricing out a 9300 as close as possible, I got a total of $1527. For that extra $30 you get a much better video card (Go6800 vs X700), 533mhz DDR2 vs. 333mhz DDR memory and a 17" wide screen display (which may not be the best, but it certainly seems better than what they are using on the 4880...30/10 verticle viewing angle?!?). Not sure how the 4880 could ever seem to be a more capable system for the money.

Anyway, we'll see...I just got my 9300 last night and have 21 days for something better to come along...if Sager were to release something that was actually competative in the next 2 weeks or so, I'd still consider switching. Sager just doesn't have the right machine at the right price for me right now.

Well hey, that's understandable. Always get what suits you the best.

It just seemed to me, the 9300 with comparable stats came out to being much more expensive thant the 4880. I would like a 17' Pentium M notebook, though, so in a sense it is a nice idea. But like I said, I just can't imagine buying from Dell again. I had my laptop overheat to ridiculous temperatures (5160... no surprise), so I RMA'd it the day after I got it. Should be a simple process, right? Wrong. Even though I sent it back, Dell still charged me on a recent bill. We try to call them to get it straight, then have our call outsourced to India somewhere, to someone who has no expereince with computers (or Americans... ). So After getting no advice but "Wait a couple days" We tried the Dell online chat. Trying to get through to someone there is like trying to cross a minefield. They really didn't make it easy. And, for the second time, we were talking to someone out of the country that had barely any information on my order. (I'm not aggravated because I'm speaking to someone of their race/color, so don't think I'm some Racial lunatic here). Even after all this, we still haven't got it settled. I really don't want to pay for a product I don't own.

Sorry for the rant.... but I kinda prefer the way PCTorque does business.

Don't blame you. I just got my 9300 last night. I had a problem about 4 years ago where I ordered a palm pilot from Dell, cancelled the order and was still charged. Took me two months to get it straightened out and I swore I would never buy so much as a mousepad from Dell again. Took a lot to get me to actually go back on that and buy the 9300 buy I wanted something that was a DTR equivelent, but which also had decent battery life and didn't run hot. Originally I had a pre-order in on an XPS-2, but the next day I had buyers remourse (was TOO expensive) and questioned why I was buying a notebook with a power effecient CPU and a power hungry (and hot running) GPU. Fortunately the 9300 was made available that same day!

I haven't had a whole lot of time to play with the 9300 yet, but from what I can tell it's very fast (with the Go6800 and 2.0ghz cpu) and barely even gets warm. Can't say I'm crazy about the WXGA+ display, but it's bright and at least as good as most that I've seen. The glossy displays do look better, but I find the reflection to be too distracting.

The pricing is good, but not having the UXGA option is unfortunate. Any updates if that will be included in the near future?

What resolutions are available with a second monitor?

Additionally, does Sager offer replicators that have DVI ports?

This laptop is perfect in my eyes (I don't care about the screen since other laptops with similar or even inferior specs but better screens cost $300 more) .

How much was the laptop overclocked for the tests , and is it possible to overclock the FSB and change memory timings ?

I've heard that there is poor cooling on the X700, so overclocking is very limited.... but I don't own one so I cant tell you for sure

In pc torques review its seems that they overclocked it. Maybe you should ask them what they did.

I just bought mine today! I should have it in 2 weeks tops!

life battery

I've just bought an Elettrodata Nev@da sx-482 (Italian brand)/Clevo M400A/Sager 4880.
It's equipperd with a 4400 MhA battery.
It runs out of energy in less than two hours (110'), browsing the Internet trough lan port, using USB keyboard and mouse, and PcMcia Enabled (allthe rest disabled, even the DVD drive).
I think it's real shit! I've bought a Centrino to have the same battery life of an AMD 64 without its power!!!
For about 100 € (about 130 US$) they could have installed a 6600MhA battery in order to give this laptop a sufficient autonomy.
I agree, it's a little thick and heavy, but it seems to be long resistant.
The screen is good for its brighteness (I hate glossy and 15,4") , but non so good for viewing angle.
I agree with other people: why a parallel port and why not a DVI output?
After all it's a good laptop. but it doesn't worth its price (at least in Italy).
Acer TM 8100 series is definetely better!
Hi everybody!

benchmarks

I agree with you. 533 ram is better than 333 but not so much (at present).
sager 4880/ Elettrodata sx 482:
CPU: 1,8 /FSB533;
HDD 80 GB /5400 rpm:
1GB RAM /400MHz (working at 333):
ATI X700/128 MB;

3dmark2033: score 5942 (acer8104, cpu 2.0 , 1GB DDR II RAM /533= 6484, not much more, about 8%, but take a look at the CPU);
3dmark 2001: score 16884 or slightly less.

Not bad huh?
Believe me , if anybody can see the difference playing a game or can recognize the two laoptops, he's my my guest iin Italy for a month!!
Hi everybody!