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Interesting read about dead pixels!

post #1 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:14am
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http://news.com.com/Consumers+see+re...tml?tag=st.num
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post #2 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:27am
i have 1 dead pixel on my asus, the store that i bough it from memoryexpress.com said they would return it to asus to get it fixed but i didnt want to lose my laptop for a week so i said screw it lol. its not that anoying but if i had 3 or more i would definatly return it.

can dead pixels NOT be there when you purchase your laptop but then appear over time? as in can a pixel burn out over time?

edit: i do agree with the end statement there, if you pay $6K or some crazy amount for your laptop i would expect it to be PERFECT in every way. same with buying a car for $200K it better damn well be dent free, scuff free, bad smell free.
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post #3 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by gicahagi19
good post. we should all fight against dead pixel LCD to force LCD manufacture industry to change policy.
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post #4 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:54am
apples policy is rediculous, "apple will determine if it is bad enough" LMAO well they aint gonna say its bad unless half your pixels are dead and you can see sh*t
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post #5 of 45
3/7/05 at 12:04pm
That is very interesting, and I do understand that the industry would raise prices if they accepted only 'perfect' screens.

It seems to be one of the only area's of the PC industry where imperfections are allowed.

I recently purchased a Viewsonic VP912b LCD, and I must say it is beautiful. There is one red pixel (completely dead) to the upper right. It is noticeable on a white or very light background/pic, but in games it is pretty much nonexistant.

If I had the chance to return it, I don't know if I would being there is no guarentee that the next screen I get will be 'perfect'.


^_^_^
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post #6 of 45
3/7/05 at 12:25pm
The only device I have in my posession that has a dead pixel, out of two notebooks, two PDAs, a GBA-SP and two Nintendo DS's, is the touchscreen of one of my Nintendo DS's (it's red)

So out of what I own 1 out of 7551711232 pixels is bad. That's a pretty low number ^_^
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post #7 of 45
3/7/05 at 1:40pm
I posted a thread suggesting that we ought not tolerate such lax standards re: lcds and got all kinds of s--t blown at me. http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=64450
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post #8 of 45
3/7/05 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by subtle_spectre
I posted a thread suggesting that we ought not tolerate such lax standards re: lcds and got all kinds of s--t blown at me. http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=64450
Yeah I agree, they gave you a bunch of crap based on your opinion. I'd say anything over 2k is worthy of a no dead pixel policy. It totally takes away from the gaming and computing experience if your eyes are attracted to one little light imho. The decision to make that post in all green wasn't a great one though...again just my opinion
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post #9 of 45
3/7/05 at 2:33pm
For most people a dead pixel on their new laptop or lcd is okay, my mate bought a new pc a month back spent $2000 and first time i saw it I noticed that he had 3 red dead pixels. I asked him about it and he just said that the lcd came like that and was not that bothered. But for me I would be bothered, its like buying a new car with 3 black dots on the front window it would distract me while driving
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post #10 of 45
3/7/05 at 2:36pm
I dont know about anyone else, but when I spent alot of mony and get something imperfect I dont think I should have to suck it up. I have a dead pixel on my 3790 and it drives me nuts.
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post #11 of 45
3/7/05 at 2:51pm
I have a dead pixel on my Gateway. Doesn't bother me too much. I never bothered to even check what the return policy was on dead pixels. I figure even if they would fix it they would want me to send the laptop back and that's just not worth one dead pixel, IMO. If there's one thing I've learned as a consumer, it's that if you're too fussy, you'll likely end up with something worse.
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post #12 of 45
3/7/05 at 3:32pm
Personally, dead/stuck pixels don't bother me much. I have like 4-5 on one of my LCDs (another that's perfect though), and my work LCDs have dead/stuck pixels as well. Had a laptop in the past that had a couple as well.

I'd rather a screen not have them, and if there's a premium service that i can pay (maybe an extra $200 or so) to guarantee i won't get a dead pixel, i would probably take advantage of it.
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post #13 of 45
3/7/05 at 3:46pm
What do you guys mean a lot of money? I remember back while Laptop cost $6000 a pop and you still have to deal with dead pixel all the time (it's more the norm that you will get a couple dead pixel back then). Nowaday you can get a kick ass laptop for $2000 and you guys are bitching and moning just because a few of them have a deadpixel or two.
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post #14 of 45
3/7/05 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Wiz33
What do you guys mean a lot of money? I remember back while Laptop cost $6000 a pop and you still have to deal with dead pixel all the time (it's more the norm that you will get a couple dead pixel back then). Nowaday you can get a kick ass laptop for $2000 and you guys are bitching and moning just because a few of them have a deadpixel or two.
Who gives a crap, I dont want a dead pixel period. Makes no difference to me if you paid 6000 in the past, dosent mean im not allowed to bitch. If it bothers me it bothers me I have a right to bitch all I want.
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post #15 of 45
3/7/05 at 7:41pm
I recently bought a Compal CL56 and after a few days worth of use, noticed it had 4 partially lit pixels. Even though 3 of them are in a vertical line, they only appear on dark backgrounds and do not bother me at all, must be the high SXGA resolution... My last laptop had a single partially lit pixel that just drove me crazy. It was XGA and it just seemed so much more promiment.

I've been working for over 4 years in the IT industry and hundreds of laptops have come across my desk. Out of all the brands and models, not a single laptop I had worked with (aside from the ones I've personally bought for myself) had any dead or partially lit pixels. Sucks, doesn't it?

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post #16 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by Wiz33
What do you guys mean a lot of money? I remember back while Laptop cost $6000 a pop and you still have to deal with dead pixel all the time (it's more the norm that you will get a couple dead pixel back then). Nowaday you can get a kick ass laptop for $2000 and you guys are bitching and moning just because a few of them have a deadpixel or two.
cux of ppl like u that makes industry have those gay ass policy. Not everyone makes 3-4 grand a month. We bitch cux their policy is unreasonable. What do you mean if paying 2 grand we cant bitch about it? EVEN a 3 bux burger at McDonald ppl bitch about it how come it is so messy when it serve to customers !!!!! McDonald will apologize like a dog and give the customer another burger for free. NOW we are paying 3k for a computer, of cux we should bitch about a defected LCD. We don't want crap excuse from industry saying "oh , its like that, we can't avoid it." They make so much $ from us by making and selling LCD and they should spend some $ to improve the manufacturing process. Doesn't matter how many dead pixel, it is a defect item.
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post #17 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by Labmouse
I've been working for over 4 years in the IT industry and hundreds of laptops have come across my desk. Out of all the brands and models, not a single laptop I had worked with (aside from the ones I've personally bought for myself) had any dead or partially lit pixels. Sucks, doesn't it?
Do you activately check dead pixels whenever you sit infront of an LCD? I've used dozens of LCDs, and there hasn't been one where i sat down and just noticed off the bat. My 1800FP, i didn't notice i had dead/stuck pixels for several days. Same thing with one of my work LCDs, it took a few days, and then i only noticed it because i was adjusting the colors and was paying attention.
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post #18 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by unholy
cux of ppl like u that makes industry have those gay ass policy.
It's people like that that LCDs have come down in prices. If they need to throw out half of all LCD productions because half of them have some sort of dead or stuck pixels, you'll be paying A LOT more for your LCDs.

Like i said, if there is some sort of premium models or service that guarantees you a flawless LCD for $200 more than normal price, then you'll see how important these dead pixels really mean.
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post #19 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by hardcore76
Do you activately check dead pixels whenever you sit infront of an LCD? I've used dozens of LCDs, and there hasn't been one where i sat down and just noticed off the bat. My 1800FP, i didn't notice i had dead/stuck pixels for several days. Same thing with one of my work LCDs, it took a few days, and then i only noticed it because i was adjusting the colors and was paying attention.
i noticed my dead pixel right off the bat on the asus POST, i see dead pixels, they dont even know there're dead
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post #20 of 45
3/7/05 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by hardcore76
Do you activately check dead pixels whenever you sit infront of an LCD? I've used dozens of LCDs, and there hasn't been one where i sat down and just noticed off the bat. My 1800FP, i didn't notice i had dead/stuck pixels for several days. Same thing with one of my work LCDs, it took a few days, and then i only noticed it because i was adjusting the colors and was paying attention.

Sometimes dead pixels are right there in front of your eyes. If i stop thinking about it I dont notice it, but then I look at that area and I see it and I notice it for about 5 minutes before I forget about it... and the cycle continues.
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