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post #301 of 551
10/12/05 at 1:49pm
good point...I guess I never thought of that...
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post #302 of 551
10/12/05 at 2:05pm
What do you mean by a hardware search?

How do you stop the second hard drive to remove it?

I understand you can "Scan for new hardware" in the device manager, but how does that help for taking the drive out?

I know you can definetly stop the dvd rom via the "Remove hardware applet" but not sure about the hard drive.

Any info will be greatly appreciated!!!
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post #303 of 551
10/18/05 at 1:52pm

red green

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Originally Posted by WiKDMoNKY
I just got my second hard drive bay from qj.xu, but mine doesnt seem to fit right.

The metal clips that hang down in the drive bay make taking it out a real pain in the arse. Is it ok to remove them?

When the drive bay is in it seems to want to fall out easily, like it wasnt making a connection. I have not tested it as far as booting up the computer yet. I was worried about a partial connection and didnt want to fry anything.

Is there something that is supposed to hold the bay in the laptop? The screw that holds the optical drive doesnt seem to do anything when I put the screw back in.

ANy help will be greatly appreciated!!!

I just used duck(duct) tape to hold them flush up into the underneath of the palm rest, works great

The device is excellent and its sits flush with the case, so looks good too (no one can see the tape!)

thanks a lot!!

worth repeating that these items are very cheap and this guy is compelely reliable, and trustworthy
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post #304 of 551
10/18/05 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by hifiking
They are hot-swapable, just do a new hardware search in device manager. Takes 2 sec.
Don't you need to set the drives up as "removable" to do this without getting nailed with delayed write failures? Have you tested this with a drive that actually has data on it that you access frequently? Doing it with empty drives as a test isn't the same thing.

BTW, if you don't plan on taking the drive out, put your swap file on it for better performance. (Get rid of the one on the C drive.)

-Doc
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post #305 of 551
10/18/05 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
Don't you need to set the drives up as "removable" to do this without getting nailed with delayed write failures? Have you tested this with a drive that actually has data on it that you access frequently? Doing it with empty drives as a test isn't the same thing.

BTW, if you don't plan on taking the drive out, put your swap file on it for better performance. (Get rid of the one on the C drive.)

-Doc
Great advices.

I usually partition my one and only HDD into 3 partitions:
- one is for OS and Program files (about 10-15GB);

- second is dedicated to swap drive ( about 3 times installed RAM);

- third is for data and Acronis backups.

So, pioneers, how is this second HDD working out for you?

When those 600GB hit the market, it will be a lot of fun having 1.2 Terabytes in your laptop!
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post #306 of 551
10/18/05 at 3:52pm
Well i've tried to dig through this thread for a final answer on what the solution is to add a second drive to an XPS Gen 2 or a 9300. I see many possibles but nothing that I consider confirmed details.

Could someone kindly post me details for one that will fit an XPS Gen 2 for sure and will require no mods to the Laptop. A link where to buy would be cool

Many thanks... monster thread
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post #307 of 551
10/18/05 at 4:02pm
john, you havent read thru, go back a few pages, look for post by qj.xu
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post #308 of 551
10/18/05 at 4:08pm
Yea, i've seen his posts but I see no actual method to order.

http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...&postcount=171

^ This is what i'd like as I don't think i'd have to do mods to use it.
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post #309 of 551
10/18/05 at 6:12pm
you should pm him if your interested in buying one... it works out at about 29 quid including postage if you live in the uk.... mine should be arriving shortly
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post #310 of 551
10/18/05 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAddisonUK
Yea, i've seen his posts but I see no actual method to order.

http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...&postcount=171

^ This is what i'd like as I don't think i'd have to do mods to use it.
That's the one I have. Some of the others I've seen in this thread look cooler, but this one works perfectly so I'm happy with it. (Not that the others wouldn't work as well)

-Doc
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post #311 of 551
10/18/05 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
That's the one I have. Some of the others I've seen in this thread look cooler, but this one works perfectly so I'm happy with it. (Not that the others wouldn't work as well)

-Doc
so.. where did you get this adapter?
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post #312 of 551
10/18/05 at 9:08pm
he got one of the first batch from our friend in china, if you look in the thread he has instructions how much and how to order...............
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post #313 of 551
10/18/05 at 10:22pm
What he said. I got mine from ObjectHung back in June or so when he did the first run. Search for his name in this thread.

-Doc
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post #314 of 551
10/19/05 at 11:27am
You can use a IBM T41/T42/R50 2nd hard drive adapter (slim type) as an alternate solution, but it is more expensive. And you will meet the same problem with the hanging clip



EDIT: for the hotswap, i must remove the 2nd hdd in DevMan, then pull out. Otherwise a "delay write failed" will appear. We need a IDE driver to force flush all pending data to hdd before removal. Anyone know which driver could be used ?
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post #315 of 551
10/19/05 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by dual_athlon
EDIT: for the hotswap, i must remove the 2nd hdd in DevMan, then pull out. Otherwise a "delay write failed" will appear. We need a IDE driver to force flush all pending data to hdd before removal. Anyone know which driver could be used ?
Try disabling delayed write cache for that drive as per Microsoft's directions:

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Note If you turn off the "Enable write caching on the disk" feature, your disk performance may decrease. Because of this, you may want to monitor system performance after you complete the following procedure.

a. In Windows Explorer, right-click your hard-disk, and then click Properties.

b. Click the Hardware tab.

c. Click the hard disk, and then click Properties.

d. Click the Policies tab.

e. Click to clear the Enable write caching on the disk check box, and then click OK two times.
I'm not certain, but you might have to do it for both of the drives you're swapping between.

Another way might be to set the drive up as removeable, after which it should show up in the "Safely Remove Hardware" app in the systray. If you eject it that way, you'd be fine.

-Doc
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post #316 of 551
10/19/05 at 3:11pm

The easy, and correct way to fix the "Metal Tab Problem"

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Originally Posted by dual_athlon
Yyou will meet the same problem with the hanging clip
I suspect you're talking about the metal clips that stick down from the top, inner edge of the CD bay.

This is easy to fix. Follow Dell's instructions for removing the palm rest from the computer and remove the clips via these two screws:



Then put the screws back in without the clips so you don't lose them, and either put the clips in a safe place, or better yet, tape them securely to the inside of the chasis so you can't possibly lose them.

I think this is a much better method than others I've seen here, including the "Jam them up there with a screwdriver until they aren't in the way anymore" approach.

-Doc
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post #317 of 551
10/19/05 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by Doc.Caliban
Don't you need to set the drives up as "removable" to do this without getting nailed with delayed write failures? Have you tested this with a drive that actually has data on it that you access frequently? Doing it with empty drives as a test isn't the same thing.

BTW, if you don't plan on taking the drive out, put your swap file on it for better performance. (Get rid of the one on the C drive.)

-Doc
Used it for some weeks now, and I haven`t got any write delayed errors yet. To put the pagefile on that disc will not work for me cause sometimes i need the DVD drive.
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post #318 of 551
10/19/05 at 7:05pm
I went into the device manager and changed the policy to disable "Write Caching" and it didnt give me an option to Safely remove hardware.

I know when the DVD rom is in the bay it shows the Safely Remove Hardware applet in the system tray.

But not with the second hard drive in the bay.

Has anyone been able to make this work?
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post #319 of 551
10/19/05 at 7:06pm
daul athalon, do you think this adapter drive from IBM will work


IBM 600 600E 600X SERIES HARD DRIVE ADAPTER PN 05K5338


or
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post #320 of 551
10/19/05 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by dual_athlon
You can use a IBM T41/T42/R50 2nd hard drive adapter (slim type) as an alternate solution, but it is more expensive. And you will meet the same problem with the hanging clip



EDIT: for the hotswap, i must remove the 2nd hdd in DevMan, then pull out. Otherwise a "delay write failed" will appear. We need a IDE driver to force flush all pending data to hdd before removal. Anyone know which driver could be used ?

Can anyone confirm that this works with the 9300?

It looks alot more sturdy than what I got from China.

I found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Thinkpad-T40...QQcmdZViewItem and its only a few more dollars than I spent on the one from china.

Is there an easier way to get the drive out, other than prying it out with a screwdriver or something similair?

I dont want to screw up my case.

Thanks in advance!
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