9300, 2 hard drives? - Page 17

Disabling write caching isn't what allows you to use the "safely remove hardware" option. You have to make Windows recognize the drive as removable to get that. (and if you do that, you don't have to disable write caching)

I don't know how to define an internal hard drive as removable, but someone here will.


-Doc

for john, ordering details, PM him and ask him

Hi! I get the jdota's money from my friend's paypal account.

so, I can sell them to EuropeANorth America and Oceania

1. USUAL COST :
a.The price of the goods (in u.s$ each):
second hard drive box 6.5
ATHEROS 5212A chips a/b/g 11M-54M minipci wlan 20
CompactFlash(CF) Serial(RS232) I/O Adapter 20
(With a CF-to-PCMICA slot adapter)

b. harge of the transport (500g in u.s$ ):
use EMS, 3-5 days. you can tracking in http://www.ems.com.cn/ems/English/index.jsp (try it! input item number: EA662812178CN )
Europe: 35
North America: 30
Oceania: 25

3Acharge of the remittance by paypal: 10 u.s$

2. STEP :
a. tell me what you want and your information(include: name/email/addres/postcode/home phone/mobile)
b. after i affirmed total costCyou give the money to xuzhen@qjkj.com from paypal
c. i send merchandise to you by EMS
d. you receive and inform me
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No, it won't.
IBM makes 2 types of adapter: Ultrabay (600 series) and Ultraslim (T41/T42/R50 series). Ultrabay series is bigger than our 9300 DVD. Only Ultraslim will fit.
Before you bid on ebay, you should better ask the seller for appropriate backside interface (give him the image too).

@WiKDMoNKY: yes, T41/T42/R50 ultraslim is fit. IMHO, to avoid get stuck with hanging clips, you can fill the screw holes with some kinds of soft glue.

ibm also have Ultrabay2000 (t20-t30)

I've found this on ebay, anyone else think its the right one?
Link

No, it isn't. Search keyword is:
(t4*,r5*) (second,2nd)

I repeat: please ask the seller for correct rear interface before you bid. Link to interface image

Hi Folks

A friend pointed out this post because I also have a 9300 and a need to have a another hard drive installed.

Been reading.

And you guys are telling me that an ULTRA Bay adapter from IBM made for T40 Laptops will work in a Dell Inspiorn 9300 as long as you remove these two hooks?

I have plenty of IBM T40 Ultra Bay adapters.. (Have access to them).

Is there more to it? do I have to cut something off or anything else? If that's the truth.. wow.. I can do this mod sometime tonight.

Let me know.. Thanks.

Any ideas how to securely screw the 2nd hard disk into place? The dvdrw drive has a little fitting at the back where you can screw it down properly. My 2nd hard disk sometimes comes out during transport and I'm worried it might come out when I'm reading or writing to the disk.

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Disconnecting & Reconnecting the 2nd HDD from the Notebooks Operating System .....

Hello peoples,

There is a definitive solution to the dilemma that Dual Hard Drive users, like those quoted above, have.

The term that covers the situations above is Hot Swapping and in the case of IDE Hard Drives the solution is software based.

The solution is called Swap Manager by ViPower or Mobilexperts and in its present version (v4) it allows you to control up to 24 devices, including not only IDE hard drives but also USB (and I think also Firewire & Serial ATA)

It will not allow you to swap the boot drive (primary IDE channel - Master on HDD "0") on an IDE notebook, but on some PC type motherboards that allow you to boot the 2nd, 3rd or 4th hard drive this may be possible.

However safely disconnecting or reconnecting a second IDE hard drive from the primary or secondary channel data bus is easily done using Swap Manager.

I know of a chap whose used it very successfully with Switched Removable IDE Drive caddy's for over 5 years. So when experts (can someone know verything?) say "you can't hot swap IDE hard drives" just walk away before the start of an argument, safe in the knowledge that you can hot swap in a similar method to the Safe Removal method that Windows XP allows with USB, Firewire A(400) & B(800) and Serial ATA. The only proviso I know of is that version 4 doesn't like many - if any at all, Internet Explorer windows to be open when you're switching devices on or off. You might well say well "why would you want to have IE windows open ...." well I can't say but I often change drives while keeping the PC running and prefer to keep IE running if possible. However I think he's tried "hot swapping" with FireFox browser open and it all works happily.

You can obtain Swap Manager by using either of the following links:
http://www.vipower.com.tw/FreeTrialSoftware.htm
or
http://www.mobilexperts.com/software.cfm

The current cost is USD $19.95 to unlock it from the trial (limited) downloaded version.
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2 Hard Drives means using a lot of Battery Power?:
With your current setups your second hard drive is running all the time and consuming extra battery power when your not using the mains adaptor.

Unless you switch off the second hard drives caddy the hard drive will still be electrically powered up but no longer connected to the bus/transferring data.

It should be relatively simple to install a small single or double pole switch into the face plate of the caddy to allow you to switch the harddrive drive on or off, just in the same way that some removable hard drive caddy's control power (and data transfer) to the hard drive. The hard drive connector has four pins separate to the data pins that control the power and whilst I've not worked out how to buy a second caddy yet (any assistance will be gratefully accepted) it should be easy enough to trace the correct paths on the small Printed Circuit Board, then cut the path and solder the wires to the switch. A 3.5 inch IDE hard drive caddy may use a switch or depending on the manufacturer they may even be switched via a small transistorised arrangment, which would not be difficult to design and build. Pictures on this forum indicate there's enough space inside the caddy for a switch & or a few electronic components and is probably about 30 minutes work for a techie (or a teenager!).
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Here is a link to a good source of pinout information on just about every computer device know to mankind: http://www.technick.net/public/code/pinouts.php

This following page at the same site as listed above is specifically for the 2.5 inch IDE Hard Drive. http://www.technick.net/public/code/...nhdd_ata44_int
The pins in question would - I suggest, be 41 & 42.
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How are you going to write your CD's & DVD's now that your writer is no longer [internally] connected?

May I suggest the following device which I've found on eBay. (I am in no way associated with or to the seller)
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eBay.com*
sellers name: pcxpert2k6
item TITLE: USB2.0 External 5.25" SLIM CD-RW/DVD-RW Enclosure Case
item number**: ?????????? [for reference use only 6816689498]
Buy It Now price: $16.95USD
sellers name: pcxpert2k6
US postage: price by Zip code
International postage: $18.95 USD

*&** eBayer's from outside the USA can search for the sellers name or just enter the old (reference only as item was sold) item number and can find the sellers new items from the View seller's other items link:http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZpcxpert2k6QQhtZ-1
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This slim external CD or DVD writer case appears to be identical to the USB 2.0 slim external case that was supplied to me with a Panasonic burner, right down to the same cardboard box. Your Dell CD or DVD writer should just plug straight into the Printed Circuit Board that you can see in the picture and is held in place by the its plug/socket and 2 screws (from memory). There is also a USB B type socket on the rear of the black case which connects with the cable supplied straight into one of your notebooks USB sockets. Too easy! + no need for mains voltage adaptors.
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Disclaimer: If I have written anything herein that people would like to disagree about or in the case of links & pictures etc. compalin about, please email or PM me and I'll rectify the matter as soon as possible.

A few questions come to mind and I admit I have spent so long writing #331 that I have not searched all of the rest of this topic to see if the answers are already covered. (shame on me, mr. moderator, but I'm knackered).

Q1. Could you run 2 identical drives as discussed in this entire topic in a Raid 1 (mirrored) format via OS software (eg Win XP SP2) just as an occasional backup method? Why Identical - just for reasons of simplicity, Perhaps switch the drive on once a week to do a raid backup.

Q2. Will the primary drive continue to run happily when the drive in the caddy has been switched off or removed?

Q3. Say I have 2 of these 2nd harddrive caddies. Would it be possible to setup the primary fixed drive#0 as a Raid 1 format [as per question 1] using caddy#1 drive for a raid 1 (mirrored) backup once per week. Is it then possible to use caddy#2 drive just as another drive for extra capacity [that has not been setup to raid 1 (mirror) the fixed drive]?

If Q3 is not possible then I presume it means just having the extra drive#2 running through a 2.5inch USB 2.0 external box?

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Am I also right in assuming that our chinese friend who sells these caddies for only USD$6.50 but about another USD$30 for postage. So $36.50 for a caddy that a few people have said they'd had real trouble getting the connections to work - ouch. has anyone thought about buying a job lot so we'll ship from elsewhere?
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I'm new to the idea of raid and backups in general so I'm not interested in spanning for increased speed, as data retention is my desire. However with enough drives it would be handy to use one drive in a caddy just for extending capacity that I could take to other PC's or notebooks.

I'd really appreciate an answer from somone who knows what their about and looking at some of the users in this topic there seems to be such people about.

Ozie, you are the man!!!

That SwapManager program was exactly what I was looking for!

Not to mention I purchased one of the external enclosures for my dvd burner, so the software will be redundant in a few days. I knew such a thing must have existed, but I couldnt find it anywhere.

Thanks a million!!!

A1. Software Raid 1 should work just fine I think, its not something I've tried myself before but there's no reason for it not to work.

A2. However I'm not sure that windows would appreciate you simply turning off one of the mirrored drives all the time. It will certainly complain and will quite possibly degrade the performance of your system. Also windows itself cannot be on a mirrored partition which might remove the purpose for you.

A3. Personally what I would do is use a program like rSync which can do a smart backup which only updates changed files onto a directory on your second drive which could be turned off whenever you like. Also you could still use any spare space on the drive for whatever you want so you don't necessarily need a second drive. If you want to have a complete backup of your system including windows I'd investigate Norton Ghost which can backup the entire drive to a single image file, you could simply boot off a USB memory stick which has this setup to run automatically.

I found this product, which may be an easier fix to this crazy mod!

http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=MK5002MPL

A 5 gig PCMCIA drive is the solution? Heh, not to disparage the idea, but I really don't think that I need one now that I have a second 120GB HD installed and an external USB-powered enclosure on the way for my DVD-Burner!

External Enclosure for DVD Burner

Hi All,
I found this external enclosure for your "pulled" DVD burner after you install your 2nd hard drive

It is USB 2.0 & Firewire and comes with a power supply

only $40 and in stock !!!

http://www.slidirect.com/web/do/pub/...oryId=27&id=44


By the way does anyone have confirmation the the IBM 2nd hard drive bay adapter really works in the 9300...If so what is the exact part number and what modifications have to be done ???

If that does not work how does one actually get the adapter from china to get this 2nd drive working.....PLEASE HELP !!!!!!

Thanks in advance.....Shkj

I've ordered the ebay one. At $15us (+ $19 postage) it was still quite cheap. It seems a better deal then the slidirect one, altho that one comes with firewire/powersupply. But buspowered is important to me, altho firewire would have been a consideration.

I'll let you guys now how well it works when I get it.

Apologies for the delay as i've been away for a few days (with no net access)

From what I can see the advantage of the slidirect.com box is that it also has firewire connectibility which is very handy for connections to desktops etc. However it is more than twice as expensive as the eBay one I mention above at post #331.

Since the time of writing I have also found another person in Taiwan who sells the USB only version for USD $16.95 but sends extra items for only US $5 each.

I wonder if this can be found anywhere else - like on eBay? I'll have a scrounge around and get back to you all as soon as possible.

FYI I got one of the optical bay adaptors from Qj.xu, order it on 11/9 from Qj in China and it got to Atlanta, Georgia on 11/18. thats great service!