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post #21 of 71
3/15/05 at 8:52pm
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I reinstalled Suse 9.2 with a fresh Kernel. Since the last one could have been messed up. I did everything the external building asks me to do. It doesn't work.

So I tried Ndiswrapper:

echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules-2.6.XXXXX

I don't have any modules-2.6.xxx but just a module.cfg, which is empty. After the command above the line ndiswrapper got inserted there.

however the next command 'update-modules' couldn't be found at all. I have no clue how to start that.

Any idea?
Thanks
Houmie
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post #22 of 71
3/15/05 at 10:08pm
When you installed Suse what kind of install did you do. From what you are describing it did a minimal install. Little to no tools it seems.
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post #23 of 71
3/16/05 at 12:07am
The module related commands you have to run as root, which is probably why it cant find the command.

As a side question the wireless in question is a built-in Mini-PCI isnt it? I thought Ndiswrapper only worked with cardbus.

Seablade
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post #24 of 71
3/16/05 at 6:44am
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Hello,

@bsmith, it is full install. Additionally I made sure, that make, gcc and these sort of stuff are installed. Maybe there is still one missing, and thats the reason why update-module couldn't be found.

@seablade, Indeed I have a built-in card. I have no clue, if Ndiswrapper will work with that or just with cardbus. ;o)

BTW, if there is no solution, I am going to give up SUSE. I am downloading Gentoo. If neither this is going to work right away, I have to try Mephis. However I guess Mephis is just a CD-boot version and there is no way to install it? Maybe I am wrong.
The last chance would be Ubuntu. The only disturbing thing is the Gnome interface. I rather would like to work with KDE. Let see, if I can find a linux distribution, which suits me. ;o)

Houmie
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post #25 of 71
3/16/05 at 1:02pm
If there is a solution for one distro it is availiable for all at the core, the question is finding it. I dont believe ndiswrapper works with anything not cardbus, but feel free to try it. The solution is going to be to find the right driver for you.

Seablade
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post #26 of 71
3/16/05 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by DimGR
iwconfig wlan0 essid youressidhere key yourkeyehere

as root of course and then you need something similar to this file of mine depending on your network

/etc/network$ cat interfaces
auto lo wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_mode managed
wireless_essid AP_8278c6
wireless_key 3B5D3C7D207E37DCEEEDD301E3
name Wireless LAN card
iface lo inet loopback

DimGR,

I load install the drivers in Ubuntu and load them too. yeahh

Now you would ask me why I didn't use the Ubuntu drivers at first place. FOr some reason they just allowing WEP encryption but no WAP. So I installed the 1.05 drivers.

Well, the problem is right now.

iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxxx key yyyyyyyyyy

doesnt work. It says yyyyyyyyyyyy would be a wrong command. Could it be that I have to use a s: before yyyyyyyyyyyy?

Like that?
iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxxx key s:yyyyyyyyyy

Could you elaborate the next steps I have to take?

BTW Ndisdriver is still not working....

Thanks
Houmie
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post #27 of 71
3/16/05 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Houmi
I am downloading Gentoo.
Might want to hold on that one, Houmie. It will take you some time just to get the system up (the learning curve) before even getting to the wireless part. I would have to say that there is nothing specific about Gentoo that could make it work - you need to find the proper driver, no matter what distro. Nevertheless, if you are up for the learning experience, I couldn't be more supportive. Hell, bug me any time and I'll give you a hand. Gentoo rules - if it is 'the distro for you' (again, the whole thing with finding the distro that suits you best).

Mikhail
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post #28 of 71
3/16/05 at 8:36pm
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Hey Mikhail,

You are right, damn the whole Gentoo needs to be compiled first. All I want is a Linux distribution with a working wireless driver. So I can get into Internet and learn by doing.

Right now I have to switch back every time to Windows and thats no fun.

I am working since 4 days now to get Wireless. It is very frusterating though...

Houmie
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post #29 of 71
3/16/05 at 9:09pm
Yeah, I know your pain. I was in a similar situation when I was setting up my system. I had a Linksys WPC54G, so I needed NDISWrapper to get it working. But the latter was in very early stages of development - I didn't even know if I would be able to get it going. To make matters worse - I had no ethernet up to my room so I needed to either boot back and forth between XP and Gentoo, or run donwstairs to plug in if I needed anything. In the end, though, I finally got it working... I moved since then and went out of my way to pull ethernet up to my room - I hate 802.11g (don't even mention 'b') and never want to touch it again unless I have to - its unreliable (even in Windows), inconsistant (sitting upstairs while the router is in the basement is no fun) and slow (54Mbps my ass - the highest raw throughput is around 20Mbps - and that is of course ignoring all protocol overhead and assuming perfect signal). I'll stick with my 100Mbps (1 Gbps once the routers come down in price) wire, thank you very much [/rant]

Mikhail
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post #30 of 71
3/16/05 at 9:42pm
what driver is your card using?
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post #31 of 71
3/16/05 at 9:44pm
Me? That was Linksys' Win driver via NDISWrapper.
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post #32 of 71
3/16/05 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by mmarkin
Me? That was Linksys' Win driver via NDISWrapper.

no , the original poster


PS , setting up internet on linux was way much easier for me than in winblows
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post #33 of 71
3/16/05 at 10:51pm
I was wrong by the way ndiswrapper does support more than Cardbus.

Seablade
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post #34 of 71
3/17/05 at 8:04am
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@mmarkin At least you feel my pain. ;o) I don't know how much patience I might still have with that...

@Seablade good to know its does support it. But it still won't work for me. (

@DimGR I am using the ipw2100-1.05 drivers http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/downloads.php

The driver is up now, but I still can't access the internet, since I don't know how to configure the WPA encryption settings.

Beside of that I am trying to make it work with NDIswrapper.
But it says:

'root@ubuntu:/media/usbdisk/drivers # sudo ndiswrapper -i w70n501.inf
Installing w70n501

so far it seems it is working, but then...

root@ubuntu:/media/usbdisk/drivers # sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted

Operation not permitted? Why?

Even the Ubuntu guys can't help me out. Everything is against me. I guess my destiny is sealed with Windows. )
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post #35 of 71
3/17/05 at 10:28am
1) Why are you 'sudo'-ing if you're root?

2) You only have to 'install' the Win driver once.

3) If the kernel refuses to accept a module, the module was probably not compiled for it. You must have the kernel source for your particular kernel. Modules just work like that: if you have a module compiled, say, for 2.6.8-rc10, you have to recompile the module when you change to a kernel of a different version.

4) Leave WPA alone until you get at least something working. Seriously. Encryption only adds to the trouble. Get rid of everything and work on getting the wireless link working first. Then try WEP (natively supported) or WPA (you have to get extra scripts, etc., for this).

Mikhail
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post #36 of 71
3/17/05 at 2:36pm
try to wget this drivers package. extract it , cd into it and dpkg -i the ndiswrapper driver.

wget http://kanotix.the-digit.de/driver-2.6.11-kanotix-4.zip

unzip driver-2.6.11-kanotix-4.zip -d /home/userXX/XXX
cd driver-XXXXX
dpkg -i the ndiswrapper driver and try again to modprobe it
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post #37 of 71
3/17/05 at 10:04pm
I have a laptop with an Intel Pro 2200 BG mini-PCI card. SimplyMEPIS3.3test03 (maybe a newer one out) supported it out of the box. Don't know if you are married to Ubuntu. SM is also Debian based. I had similar problems to yours before I loaded this version of SM. Good luck.
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post #38 of 71
3/17/05 at 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by Houmi
Everything is against me. I guess my destiny is sealed with Windows. )
NO!
Never say that. Linux will work. You have to be patient and steadfast, read lots of documentation and google like its your job, but it will work. Have faith

Some distros work better than others. Some have very nice wireless controll panels and such, which should help you out.

If you have not yet given up on ubuntu, here's what I use http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthre...ireless+python

It is really nice and works very much like the windows zero interface. I dont know aobut WPA encryption, i never tried connecting using that encyrption, but like mmarkin said, just try to set your network up using wep.

Oh, and also, you can get KDE on ubuntu, i dont know if you can using warty, but you can with hoary, or just download kubuntu. if youre using hoary:
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
just so you can have your KDE desktop. Or try mepis, which is nice. I dont know aobut their wireless support though

GOODLUCK!
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post #39 of 71
3/17/05 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by wbeck
You have to be patient and steadfast, read lots of documentation and google like its your job, but it will work. Have faith
Amen

(No pun intended)
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post #40 of 71
3/17/05 at 11:35pm
Somtimes learning Linux is like in school when that one kid is always trying to best you. You gotta get it in your head that you will be better and learn more than him. Just don't give up.
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