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post #61 of 71
3/28/05 at 7:26pm
Houmie,

A package is marked stable when it is known to be stable. A particular piece of hardware can be 10 years old but if the support for it is buggy, it won't make it to the stable packages. Thats the point. You don't want production-grade systems failing because of buggy support for a piece of hardware.

As for getting 3.4.3, if you actually read the documentation, you would know that controlling whether or not Portage accepts masked packages is accomplished with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag.

Quit complaining. Windows is designed for the average Joe Dumb***t. Linux is about choice. The more control you want over your system, the more involved and complicated it gets. We warned you about Gentoo.

Finally, complaining about the Gentoo Forums (first place I check whenever I have a problem that I can't resolve myself) is like being an undergraduate student, sitting through a graduate level class and calling everyone a nerd since you don't have a clue. The forum is huge and most noob-flaming occurs due to lack of research on the part of the latter.

Mikhail
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post #62 of 71
3/29/05 at 1:29am
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Originally Posted by Houmi
ok news. I could smash my head against the wall. This freaking Gentoo drives me nuts. For gods sake I am so happy gaving up the wireless, buying 40m LAN cable and using the LAN, which works right away. hehe

But still it is such a pain in the butt. I learned a lot 'trying' to compile the kernel, but it failes because GCC 3.3.5 is not supporting Pentium-M. DUUUUDDDEEEE Pentium-M (Centrino) is more than 2 years old, still no support?

Well the experimental package 3.4.3 has the support, which is not marked as stable. And the guide doesn't say how to activate that.

Gentoo Forum makes a nerdish impression on me. You need to know Linuxese to understand their language and sometimes they flame the noobs.

It is still such a release rebooting to windows and being able to actually work with the computer. ;o)

Houmie
This will be my last post in this thread. I just finished a clean Stage-1 rebuild of my laptop after getting the mobo upgraded. I'm posting this from the laptop running wirelessly, but to answer your "question" about unstable packages. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in the make.conf file in /etc. I've ran into a few things that still need fixing but I'm not whining about them. In the future if you're not going to be positive in a post preface the title with "Rant" or something so we know it's probably not worth reading. I'm not a mod here but if I was I'd ask you to either calm down or leave. You obviosly don't have the correct mindset to install Linux yet. Yes it's very powerful, yes it can be a bitch to configure, yes you can get it figured out, no it's not very forgiving. You have to have a great deal of patience and self control at times to figure it out. I once heard an analogy between windows and Linux, it went something like this. Windows is like buying a house. You sign on the dotted line and move in. Linux is like building your house. You go get the tools and the knowledge then you build.
Good luck as you will need it.
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post #63 of 71
3/29/05 at 1:53am
Thank you, Bill, that was very appropriate. I would say, though, Houmie, that you're better off setting ACCEPT_KEYWORDS individually on a need-to-have basis (eg. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge ...). Running completely off unstable packages (thats what setting the tag to ~arch in /etc/make.conf does) is a whole different animal (I honestly don't yet have the guts to do it).

Mikhail
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post #64 of 71
3/29/05 at 12:31pm
I'll tell you one thing- ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in make.conf is NOT a good idea. I installed one such system, but it crashed almost as much as windows In fact, I was forced to reinstall gentoo completely with just a few marked package.keywords in order to make it work again. Oh well... more experience gained

Does anyone know if gcc 3.4 is included with 2005.0? Or do I have still have to add gcc to package.keywords and emerge?
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post #65 of 71
3/29/05 at 1:15pm
Yeah, thats what I've said (about ACCEPT_KEYWORDS).

I don't know if GCC 3.4 is included with 2005.0 (my guess is that its not), but just give it a try! You can upgrade/downgrade your base at any time. If I remember correctly, all it takes is a change of some simlink.
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post #66 of 71
3/29/05 at 2:55pm
Thread Starter 
hehe, did I hurt your feeling as a freak? ;o) Take it easy. It is not so bad being a nerd, I am trying hard to become one too. ;o)

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Originally Posted by jamesshuang
Does anyone know if gcc 3.4 is included with 2005.0? Or do I have still have to add gcc to package.keywords and emerge?
It is not included for sure. It is probably be included in 2005 in few months. Right now you just get 3.3.5 stable with 2005.0.

Guys guys, calm down. I was laughing all the time at myself, while posting that. Why do you take that so seriously? I wasn't even complaining about Linux but myself.

I wasn't expecting any help at all, since I am working on it. I just thought you guys would like to know, that I still didn't gave up.

Its ok. I got it. I let this thread die and its fine.

Why are you guys so sensitive? You didn't make Linux, neither I did Windows. ts ts

Regards
Houmie
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post #67 of 71
3/29/05 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Houmi

Why are you guys so sensitive? You didn't make Linux, neither I did Windows. ts ts

Cheers
Houmie

because all your questions can be found answered on the gentoo forums
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post #68 of 71
3/29/05 at 5:59pm
And because we invest our personal time helping people. Doesn't feel too good when your efforts get brushed off.
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post #69 of 71
3/29/05 at 6:54pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DimGR
because all your questions can be found answered on the gentoo forums
And I told you once, if you don't like to help, let it be. No one is forcing you to reply.

You guys aren't saints. You can't stand someone criticizing anything about Linux. I don't care how much you swear about Windows, I laugh with you about Windows and enjoy it. But you guys take it very personal. This is so nerdish.


I am done with this thread now.
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post #70 of 71
3/30/05 at 5:37pm
Hi all!
I can´t find any driver to my ferrari 3200 wifi card. Any that have any links or drivers page... i have heard that that does not existing a driver to that card... it this right?
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post #71 of 71
3/30/05 at 5:41pm
Could you post more details, Hemlan? What is the actual card? Manufacturer, model, product id of some sort, etc.
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