1st to upgrade? - Page 4

No you sell the motherboard and xp on ebay. you can get money for both..But i dont work at 1 retail store in software or elsewhere anymore so wont work for me..

i'm one of those dont really see the benefits of a $1400 upgrade, since all i wanted was the M10, when i bought my 8887 at sager a few months ago i asked if i could upgrade the video to the M10 , which of course you can, but they neglected to mention just how much i'd have to change

i paid sager an extra $500 for the chameleon case, and they have been promsing me a swap for the black battery when they start shipping which they haven't, now i have to pay again if i want to keep the look,they tell me just go with the half black, probably another $200 then another $100 for a spare PSU, since the OEM ones are really delicate, i've had one fail already.

As for laptop motherboards being different from desktop well duh, but they don't cost more to make, there are smaller PC baby style motherboards with as much on them for a lot less. The chipsets are the same, the manufacturer processes are the same, in comparison to making a CPU a motherboard is 1970s tech.

Most desktops come with a RAID of sorts now, but 0 isn't RAID, 1 is barely, its not all that interesting, as its not a whole lot faster, and it really depends on what you are using it for, I use mine for graphics work so i wanted the dx9 M10.

Mini USB instead of Mini PCI give me a break, have they taken out the MiniPCI ?? wheres the wireless go ?

Sure the 800mhz fsb and faster ram would be better, but i wanted a laptop with some battery life but for around $1700 (plus tax) for me to get what i have now with a new cpu/gfx card and ram , i think i'll skip.

WHy in the world would u waste the WinXP disk like that? Even if YOU dont need it, just sell it!

Ohh boy, where do i start...

I can agree, first off, that 1400 is too much for just a video upgrade. However, i dont belive sager actually promised an upgrade, and they certainly promise you that it would be just upgradable video, or for a low (200) price.

No i dea what your second rant is on about...

As for the motherboards...*sigh*. Yes, they are different. Sure, they share the same chipsets, but is about that. Very little is upgradeable, etc. But, what you are really forgetting, is the MFg process. Clevo makes all its motherboards.. it engineers them, tests them, etc. Compaired to desktop, the components are required to be more heat tollerant, as well as shock tollerant. That costs money. Also, keep in mind, clevo wont make NEARLY as many mobos for the laptops as desktop makes do. Since they arent buying in bulk, its more expensive. See where im going with this?

So, Raid 0 isnt raid, eh? And you think Raid 1 is faster? Boy kid, u sure know ur stuff...

And, incase you cant read, the wireless goes in the mini-usb port made for the wireless card..

And you wanted a laptop with battery life.... so why do you have a 8889?? Moron...

anything from MS should be dog food ! j/k

why does the cost of the upgrade keep getting bring up as 1000+ 1400+ 1700+???

when people asked for the upgrade before it was offered you all said you just want the M10 and the option to upgrade other parts later.

now that the upgrade is offered you all make it sound like it's worst then it really is. so if you just want the M10 your price is not 1400 it's 795. you only need the motherboard upgrade, let's forget the 795 includes the ACA, new keyboard, and whatever else the new motherboard offers like option for 800FSB later you don't have to get it NOW!, 6ch audio, dvi out, raid maybe you think it's not needed but it's there. noone ever asked for an upgrade of a complete system before it was even offered!.

if you really want new cpu / new hdd / new everything you should sell the old buy a new, like i did which my outcome i even made 200bucks.

Sager did promise a videocard upgrade, while i was in the offices there, now to me if i say, can i upgrade the video to the M10 when it comes out (as it was being talked about as just around the corner, and is anwered with yes you can, to a reasonable person wouldn't mean, yes by replacing half the internals of the laptop, granted its common with most laptops to have to do this, but one of the reasons i went to sager was because of the talk of it being uipgradeable.

As for me asking for a $200 video card upgrade , I don't know where you pulled that one from , we made a leap from $1400 being unreasonable to $200 being unreasonable, somehow there.

base figure of 1000 for the upgrade + memory $400 for cpu ( which might be a bit less i just went off a listing i checked yesterday) + $100 for extra psu + $200 for paint the lower half of the case, as i said 'for what i have now" i presume you can read or count, as i did list each of the items, with cost.

RAID 0 isn't RAID, or you tell me where the fault tolerancy is in RAID 0 ? Its AID 0

So is the new wireless USB going to work internally at 54Mbps with an internal loop antenna too ?

As for the battery life comment, that was a joke hence the wink.

They have not lied to you yet. You CAN get your video upgraded. Where have they lied to you about that? From everything i have seen, the upgrade is built around the new vid. They never promised you JUST the video, nor did they the price.

My 200 comment was just a proof. They didnt tell you ANY price. Once again, how could you get them for that, when they never told you what it would be.

And what relevance does your third paragraph even have to all of that? They arent forcing you to upgrade. Your complaining because you wanna buy a spare power brick and paint job? Well hell, you would do that even with a new one. The CPU is your choice, but hey. I STILL dont get why your whining. Its a whole new laptop, for 1400, 1500 if you count the brick (and your $200 for the paint is pure BS. I could do that for 10 bucks if i had a weekend free...). So, for 1500, your getting a basicly whole new setup... hell, i paid 2300 for my laptop. But u know, if things jsut arent cheap enough, lets cry about it...

Im not gonna argue about the raid.... not worth my time...

If you can find a 54Mb mini-usb module, yes...

to add some explanation to the second 'rant' if thats what you think it was, I was simply saying that the factory configured chameleon coloured 8887 i bought from sager had an extra battery that is supposed to have been replaced by sager, when they started offering the colours as part of their default line.

This appears never to have happened or at least not yet, and when i talked to them yesterday, doesn't seem to be forthcoming , I'm not really all that bothered about it, I certainly wasn't ranting. i think you think i'm a lot more upset about all this then i am, all i'm saying is logically is cheaper to sell the 8887 and buy a new 8889 as the poster did, and you'll probably make a profit. i think all i have to do is sell mine for about $1000 to make buying a new one the equivalent.

3.06 HT
16.1
DVD-R / CD-RW combo
80GB + 60GB HD's
factory installed chameleon colour
1G RAM
54G wireless
tuner yadayada
spare PSU brick

i'd hope i'd be able to sell that for close to $1000 its still even got the plastic wrap on the LCD.

I didn't say they lied to me, you like adding stuff in don't you.

i said can i upgrade the video card to the M10 when it comes out
them -> yes you can.

read that as you will.

Heh you won't argue about the RAID because you are flat out wrong and theres no way you could have it otherwise, RAID 0 is not technically RAID since there is no redundancy/fault tolerance, its a marketing gimmick or people just using the wrong terminology the same way IDE is used instead of the technically correct ATA, since SCSI also contains IDE (integrated drive electronics) but all of that aside RAID 0 does not do fault tolerance or redundancy that is the R in RAID.

I'm not really complaining about it, again i am just pointing out that it doesn't seem worthwhile, its better just to sell and replace, it'd be cheaper.

$200 as proof of what ? i'd like to know why you think going from over to $1000 to $200 is proof of anything. Get what for what ? what are you talking about, I haven't mentioned any $200, i don't expect them to do it for that, I'm just saying for me to have what i have now with the new hardware would cost $1700 so its not worthwhile, you sir are the one ranting and going off with the insults and the making things up.

So theres an internal miniusb connector with provision for a antenna that loops around the lcd with twin connectons for it.

is anyone even making a 54g USB latop wireless adapter yet.