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post #1 of 19
3/12/05 at 6:55pm
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I am having to send my Alien 7700m back to ireland because the internal power supply isn't charging the batterys when on....

now the question:-
i dont want them to format/read the important data(clients etc) so i have removed the drives. they are raided together (2x60 into a 120 drive) btw.

My chances are that they are going to replace the whole unit(or at least the mobo).... would the hard drives be affected when i place them into the new unit?

i.e.
would it just boot straight up
or
would i need to play with the raid bios....
OR
would it just not work and crash and burn in the pit of hell?


cheers.
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post #2 of 19
3/12/05 at 9:16pm
Probably be fine so long as you make sure RAID is on in the BIOS. Just hope you don't need access to that data while it's away.
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post #3 of 19
3/13/05 at 6:31am
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not yet

cheers for that info cjdshaw.
anyone else got any other views.?

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post #4 of 19
3/13/05 at 6:45am
U'll just need to replace the hds and set the raid option in the bios.

The only thing u should do is restarting windows after the first logon, cause since this'll be a new mobo, irqs won't be same and windows will detect and install new devices.
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post #5 of 19
3/13/05 at 7:02am
If all the parts are the same, ie same model motherboard, just putting the drives back in and setting the bios up should work. The operable word of course is should... You never know until you try with this kind of thing.

As long as the bios knows to look for the raid array, it should find everything it needs to operate in your boot sector on the hd's.
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post #6 of 19
3/13/05 at 7:36am
Raid isn't in boot sector, it's a driver
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post #7 of 19
3/13/05 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by j.clausse
Raid isn't in boot sector, it's a driver
No, the information that the Fasktrak BIOS needs is in the boot sector. It tells it what arrays you've got defined and what RAID level they are. Once Windows boots, the driver takes over most of the work but the BIOS needs this info to boot.
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post #8 of 19
3/14/05 at 8:02pm
to fix recharge problem follow these steps. go into bios and set to factory defualts. next shut down and remove battery and power pack for 5 min. next boot up using battery and drain untill pc shuts down. next boot up normally using power pack and let recharge. watch the process in the control panel/ power . you should see it slowly start to charge back up again.
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post #9 of 19
3/14/05 at 8:04pm
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it charged when on but at a VERY slow rate... plus charges in about 4 hours when off.
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post #10 of 19
3/14/05 at 8:06pm
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plus did you have this problem?
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post #11 of 19
3/14/05 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by Forsaken1
to fix recharge problem follow these steps. go into bios and set to factory defualts. next shut down and remove battery and power pack for 5 min. next boot up using battery and drain untill pc shuts down. next boot up normally using power pack and let recharge. watch the process in the control panel/ power . you should see it slowly start to charge back up again.
didnt work

off to AW it goes
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post #12 of 19
3/15/05 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted by cjdshaw
No, the information that the Fasktrak BIOS needs is in the boot sector. It tells it what arrays you've got defined and what RAID level they are. Once Windows boots, the driver takes over most of the work but the BIOS needs this info to boot.

Sorta, the info is actually stored in the "RIS" sector, Raid Information Sector, it's seperate from the boot sector wich is a sector placed by your OS's choice of file systems, e.g. NTFS or FAT.

Make sure you put the drives back in the same locations that they were removed from, don't mix them up whatever you do.
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post #13 of 19
3/15/05 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by Time-Pilot
Make sure you put the drives back in the same locations that they were removed from, don't mix them up whatever you do.
well i was planning on putting them in my fridge but if that aint gonna work they'll have to go back in the laptop

seriously tho itll just get screwed back in where it came out of.
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post #14 of 19
3/15/05 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by SultanHQ
well i was planning on putting them in my fridge but if that aint gonna work they'll have to go back in the laptop

seriously tho itll just get screwed back in where it came out of.

No joke, way back in the day we would freeze Wester Digital Caviar drives that were dead so we could retrieve customer data. When we froze them the lubricant in the drive that was all over the platters would fall off and we could run them for about 20 min, which was just enough time to get some critical files off.
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post #15 of 19
3/15/05 at 8:19pm
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thats no way back in the day... i remeber back in the day working on a 60Mb 5.25" winchester drive took ages to format it and then someone forgot to park it before shutting it down .... when i turned it on it was just like a gun going off inside the harddrive

I also remeber using an external scsi 10Mb Whittle drive (a 5" platter basicly) on a 186 4mhz pc with 1 mb of ram! with windows 2.0!!!! and a 9pin dot matrix serial citizen 120d printer.
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post #16 of 19
3/15/05 at 8:20pm
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and heres the beaut in the flesh:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mickfrench/rmnimbus.htm
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post #17 of 19
3/15/05 at 8:38pm
Memory 572K - hardcore!
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post #18 of 19
3/15/05 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by SultanHQ
thats no way back in the day... i remeber back in the day working on a 60Mb 5.25" winchester drive took ages to format it and then someone forgot to park it before shutting it down .... when i turned it on it was just like a gun going off inside the harddrive

I also remeber using an external scsi 10Mb Whittle drive (a 5" platter basicly) on a 186 4mhz pc with 1 mb of ram! with windows 2.0!!!! and a 9pin dot matrix serial citizen 120d printer.

Oh man I like you already! I can remeber having to issue the park command back in college, your right that was a ways back. First HDD I had was a 10mb external Exetech Kernal, in fact I may still have it in a box somewhere.
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post #19 of 19
4/29/05 at 2:30pm
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just to let you know ive recieved it back and it still charges slowly but i got a new case... im not gonna send it back again cos of the time it took.


ON THE PLUS SIDE!
the raided drives botted striaght up, no problems AT ALL!
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