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Dim screen when connecting 5660 to CRT monitor

post #1 of 60
1/6/03 at 4:33pm
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Sup guys, I just bought a new 5660 about a week ago and this is my first time posting to this forums. First of all, does anybody have any problems with their monitors being very dim when you connect it to the 5660? I've played with the monitor settings turning up the brightness all the way, but even still it's pretty dim. Second question is has anyone gotten their 5660 to work with cdrwin? It sees the DVD/CD burner drive as a dvd drive only. I've tried installing the ASPI drivers on the goldenhawk webite to no avail. Finally, I've looked at your guys' 3dmark scores and am kinda wondering why I'm only getting a 6850 3dmark score. Can anyone offer any advice please? Thanks.
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post #2 of 60
1/6/03 at 5:40pm
I have run my 5660 with a 2nd monitor and haven't noticed any kind of brightness problems. Have you tried adjusting the brightness sliders in the display control panel or just the brightness settings on the monitor itself?

I don't use cdrwin, so I can't help you there either.

I guess I am just useless!
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post #3 of 60
1/7/03 at 3:08am
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Does no one else have the problem with hooking up their 5660's to a monitor? The display is perfectly bright on the TFT screen, but it's so much darker on my monitor. Please someone help me out?
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post #4 of 60
1/7/03 at 2:09pm
Have you tried the monitor on another computer to see if it's a problem with the monitor itself? Check and make sure all of the pins are clean and such where you plug it in. Also, check in the display properties on the 5660 to see if you can control the brightness there. I haven't plugged the 8886 into any CRT monitors, but when I plugged it into a bigscreen tv, it worked great. I wouldn't think that two monitors would put a big strain on it, considering it's supposed to support two.

As far as your 3dmark score, did you install the 6218 drivers? Or are you using the ones that came default on the cd? They will make a difference. But, your score is NOT bad at all, lol.

Let us know and best of luck!
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post #5 of 60
1/7/03 at 2:10pm
Oh, and btw, with cdrwin, check their list of supported drives... if your drive isn't in the list, then it prolly won't work. Same thing happens with all of those programs... Try clonecd or the nero that came with your laptop... Both are EXCELLENT programs.
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post #6 of 60
1/9/03 at 7:56pm
Thread Starter 
thanx for ur response beebster, but I've tried all that and still have a problem with my monitor being too dim. I know it's not the monitor itself though because when i hook it up to my pc, it works fine. Am I the only one with this problem??
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post #7 of 60
1/19/03 at 2:35am
When I connected my CRT monitor to my 5660, it was dim too. This is what I did. In the settings tab of the Display properties applet, click on the Advanced button. In the Advanced settings applet, go to the Overlay tab and adjust the brightness and contrast to suit your needs.

HTH.

dgantony.
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post #8 of 60
1/21/03 at 2:14am

dark screen

You are not alone! I just got my 5660 and plugged in my CRT. VERY DISAPPOINTED Yes it is dark, sort of brownish tinted, and quite fuzzy. It remindes me of the visual quality I got from a cheap RGB to NTSC converter I once had. Maxing out brightness levels does not fix coloration or clarity problems. Any other suggestions would be appreciated!
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post #9 of 60
1/23/03 at 1:41pm
Hmm... That's wierd. Most monitors are dimmer when connected to a laptop (the laptops here at UD do the same thing). That is unless you shut off the LCD display by hitting Fn F7 and cyclin through til it's just the CRT that is on. I don't think it should be brown and fuzzy, though, lol... Are you sure it isn't a problem with the monitor? If it isn't, I'd suggest tryin another monitor (like a friend's) just to see if it does it with that one as well. If it does, I'd talk to Sager... That isn't supposed to happen :-)
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post #10 of 60
1/29/03 at 11:28pm

Another one here

Yea, I just hooked my Sager 5660 up to two different monitors and both are much dimmer. I would say that it looks "washed out" and fuzzy....... perhaps there's not enough contrast? Yea, that's what it looks like, the contrast needs to be turned up. I looked in the ATI graphics settings (6255 version) and see a slider for Brightness only, none for contrast.
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post #11 of 60
1/30/03 at 5:17am
I'll definitely try that out when the 8887 arrives... I'm wondering about it. I'll draw comparisons with a few other laptops (one with an M7 and the other with the geforce4 460 go).
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post #12 of 60
1/30/03 at 5:39am
I really don't think it's supposed to be dimmer. Until I bought the 5660, all my presentation work has been done using an Omnibook, and I typically have both the LCD screen, and also the projected display on - and the latter has never been dimmed.



Rob

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Originally posted by beebster83
Hmm... That's wierd. Most monitors are dimmer when connected to a laptop (the laptops here at UD do the same thing). That is unless you shut off the LCD display by hitting Fn F7 and cyclin through til it's just the CRT that is on. I don't think it should be brown and fuzzy, though, lol... Are you sure it isn't a problem with the monitor? If it isn't, I'd suggest tryin another monitor (like a friend's) just to see if it does it with that one as well. If it does, I'd talk to Sager... That isn't supposed to happen :-)
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post #13 of 60
1/30/03 at 12:02pm
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I really don't think it's supposed to be dimmer. Until I bought the 5660, all my presentation work has been done using an Omnibook, and I typically have both the LCD screen, and also the projected display on - and the latter has never been dimmed.
Yea, but I'm not so sure it's "dim" as it is low contrast.

Are you having the same problem, Rob?
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post #14 of 60
1/30/03 at 2:21pm
Well, of course, I realize that it is not supposed to do that, but a lot of times the brightness is lower on mobile cards attached to external monitors as opposed to desktop cards because for desktop cards it is primary and for laptops it is secondary... In your other laptops Wizard what video cards do you have? I wonder if it is an issue with the 9000? Have you both tried the drivers specifically for the Sager (made by sager)? Have you tried reducing the brightness on the LCD? Well, I read that you tried turning it off completely and it didn't help, so I'm kinda wondering... Hmm, we'll have to look further into this.
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post #15 of 60
1/30/03 at 8:14pm
Well, from limited usage, I'm afraid so. I"ll go back and try it a little more - we're having a short holiday over here of 3-4 days) from work, so when I go back next week, I'll give it a try again.


Rob

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Originally posted by allbad
Yea, but I'm not so sure it's "dim" as it is low contrast.

Are you having the same problem, Rob?
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post #16 of 60
1/30/03 at 8:20pm
Well I can't recall the video specs for the older notebooks - but the Toshiba Protege 3480, and also this HP Omnibook uses the ATI Rage Mobility video chipset. I used both extensively for at least 6 months each doing presentations, and at some juncture must have adjusted brightness on both the external and internal LCD displays and so on, and that never had - nor in my best judgement should - have an effect on the external display.

At this current moment, it really does seem to me to be an issue with just the ATI9K, and perhaps in the 5660. I'll need to check the DELL support forums if users of the I8200 are having these problems with their ATI9K too - but to my memory, I haven't read of any person yet...


Rob

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Originally posted by beebster83
In your other laptops Wizard what video cards do you have? I wonder if it is an issue with the 9000?
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post #17 of 60
1/30/03 at 8:22pm
Make sure to pay particular attention to whether it's brightness or contrast... Open up a blank document full screen or something so the whole screen is white and compare the brightness to what you've seen in other CRT outputs on other lappies. Then put up a non-white picture and check out the contrast, make sure it's set at a consistent resolution etc. Best of luck!
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post #18 of 60
2/4/03 at 3:26pm
Same problem here guys, only on my 5620. it's mighty dim in a low contrast kind of way. maxing the contrast on the monitor doesnt help much, and of course, in their infinate wisdom, ATI didnt include any contrast controls in the driver. I spent a lot of time looking for drivers specific to my display in the hopes that it would allow me to use LCD options that are allegedly present but locked out in the ATI controls, but came up with nothing. I have not seen this sort of problem elsewere before (my job is tech support, i see a lot of problems), and i would love to nip it in the ass. It's the one flaw with my otherwise great experience with Sager so far.
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post #19 of 60
2/4/03 at 4:31pm
That seems to be a problem with the 5660 series, I guess... I'll have to check if the same applies to the 8887, and hopefully Sager will check into releasing a driver patch or something that raises the output on the VGA port...
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post #20 of 60
2/5/03 at 1:53am
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hopefully Sager will check into releasing a driver patch or something that raises the output on the VGA port...
That would be terrific, but the question is, could something like that even be corrected with software?, hmmm....

Lets hope so
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