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Sager NP9860 Benchmarks + Review

post #1 of 28
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Hey everyone, Review has now been completed, and I've ran 3dmark03 and 05 both at stock.

Updated April 2nd, 2005: Two new photos, more later, and an extra section about cooling has been added.

Review
ITC Millennia 7300/Sager NP9860

This machine's config: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 550 w/ HT Technology 3.4GHz 1MB Cache, 1GB Dual Channel DDR2
SO-DIMM at 533MHz (2 x 512MB), 60GB Hard Drive 7200rpm 8MB Cache, Toshiba 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW
Combo, Nvidia Geforce 6800 Go w/ 256MB GDDR3 memory (User-upgradable), 17" WideSXGA+ 1680 x 1050 LCD Display
with Built-in Camera, Windows XP Home Edition w/ SP2, No WiFi. (Cost $4,503.96 AUD after discounts)
No Dead Pixels, yay.

When I first saw my 9860/7300, I was speechless. The screen looked great, and the overall presentaion of this
machine is far superiour to my old Dell I8200. The keyboard on this machine is great, finally a notebook with a numpad! The screen runs at a high resution of 1680x1050, and is a 17" wide screen. I am very impressed by
the overall quality and sharpness of this screen. Gotta love the glossy screen too! Most improtantly, NO DEAD PIXELS! YES!

I play GTA: Vice City alot, and also play a CMP on it called Myriad Islands (www.myriadislands.com). This
lappy plays the game lag free with 8xFSAA and 16xAF. Other games i've played are Half Life 2, and Call of Duty
and this laptop will play these on full setting at max res. (1280x1024 for Call of duty, as it doesn't support
wide screen resultions). Half Life 2 is amazing, i might say too. I haven't had a chance to play Doom 3 on
this baby, but i'm sure it will handle it with ease.

This notebook kills my desktop (3.2Ghz P4, 9800 Pro 256MB), in every game, and I was impressed with that when
I got it (I know i'll just laugh at my 7300 when I get something new in like what? 5 years?? lol). My 7300 scores
a great 3665 in 3dmark05, and 8750 in 3dmark03 at stock speeds. Overclocked at 362/1006 I score 3960 in 3dmark05
and 9350 in 3dmark03, i'm quite impressed by these scores.

So far I've had some problems with graphics card drivers, and I've had the BSOD (Blue screen of death) three times
(Once with the drivers, and two trying to reformatt). But hey, I always have problems with new computers! Doesn't
everyone? I got my 9860/7300 from P4laptops, which was orginally $4,610.00 AUD before discounts, as I found
someone else with it cheaper (Alienware A51-m 7700, but I wont get into that), so I got it knocked down to $4,425.00
AUD, but P4Laptops charge 1.83% for credit cards, which ended up at $4,503.96 AUD as shown above.

This laptop has some great little things, that you just don't get on some notebooks, like a Webcam and a 7 in 1
Card reader. The webcam works great on this, and comes in handy if you had a great hair style, and wanted to get a
picture of your self, or something else completely stupid thing that I could always come up with. The 7 in 1 card
reader comes in handy, if you have a spare CompactFlash card hanging around, and don't have any CD-R's or anything.
I've used this many times already, and can save battery life on my digi camera, as I can just take photo's of the
CF card opposed to using a USB tranfer cable.

P4Laptops did a great job of getting my 9860/7300 here, it only took three working days (After discovering I was
put on Prioty. I still don't completly know why, they just might really like me or something) So far, i'm loving
this notebook (As you can tell from my review). I would recommened this lappy over any other, if you were wanting
to game on a laptop. I think i'm in love.....

Edit: To everyone warried about a hot laptop, a prefect cheap solution is to stick a Dictionary under the back of the laptop. I find this not only allows more airflow, but it also provides a better typing angle!

Pictures below
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post #2 of 28
Very nice scores
post #3 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesd12
Hey guys, I just finished 3dmark05, and got 3665. Specs in my sign. I'm going to download 3dmark03 overnight to see what I get in that. Review later on
Thats great scores with your config!
post #4 of 28
"I'm going to download 3dmark03 overnight" -Jamesd12

The joys of 56k. Now that I have cable internet I dont think I can ever go back to the dreaded 56k.
post #5 of 28
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*cough* I've got Cable, its just i really can be screwed downloading it over night.

Half Life 2 runs great on this baby! I should have 3dmark03 in about 10 minutes, as I just found a half decent server to download it from (This mirror i found is downloading this alot faster now). Must be cos i'm in Australia. So is my 3dmak05 score good for this config? well im happy. I might try it o/ced in a bit, what should be a definate safe clock and memory speed? I don't really want to screw up my baby

8570 for 3dmark03 stock.
post #6 of 28
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Updated with Review. More pictures later
post #7 of 28
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I installed the new drivers, and I got this!
post #8 of 28
Wow, thats smoking! Is that over clocking?
post #9 of 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tate
Wow, thats smoking! Is that over clocking?
Nope all stock! I'll run it again just to satistfy my self Maybe the drivers changed the clock speeds or something lol. Anyone like my review?

EDIT: No wait... I found out that when I press reset defaluts, my memory speed goes up to 1 Ghz



I'll run 3dmark05 again *sigh*
post #10 of 28
Nice scores I should of just left 3dmark05 installed for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesd12
P4Laptops did a great job of getting my 9860/7300 here, it only took three working days (After discovering I was
put on Prioty. I still don't completly know why, they just might really like me or something)
Well now you'll know, I needed a machine to run some benchmarks for another client, saw your previous post tracked down your order and raised the priority to get the machine built. It's great to hear your happy with it and luckily i picked the right machine.

James
post #11 of 28
For anyone else in Australia/New Zealand considering a Clevo/Sager purchase - ITC/P4Laptops are 'da bomb! These guys will really go the extra mile, whether you're after information, quick returns at no cost, good after sales support, or just a kick butt laptop at a good price with fast shipment - these guys are the way to go downunder.

* No I don't work for them by the way, but I have owned four ITC laptops over the past 18 months (my first was a Uniwill which I bought through P4Laptops) and I've been exceedingly impressed by these guys (many thanks once again to James and Emman at ITC).
post #12 of 28
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Well ITC is 'da bomb! I'll go with them for my next laptop! Also I took this baby to a LAN, and damn everyone wouldn't stop staring at it!

@ITC_Sales yes you should have left it installed lol, would have saved me a bit of time trying to get it over my cable. So thats why I have lots of finger marks on my screen!
post #13 of 28
New Drivers improve 3dmark05 by optimizations ...

I'm playing HL2 and it's not very smooth ... Doom 3 is perfect (1024x768 HQ, AA0X and AF2X) but with the same settings i've got lag in HL2 in little room with no monsters. Sometine it freeze suring 0.5s ... Farcry is perfect ... Only Have problem with HL².

See my computer in signature ...

deuch
post #14 of 28
I used to have similar problems in HL2, especially in the canals where my framerate could drop as low as 9fps, I don't any longer (canals never drops below 25-30fps) - I can't say exactly what fixed the issue the following things have changed about my setup - I now run my Front Side Bus at 215-217.9MHz (CPU - 3.92GHz, Memory - 591MHz), I now run my graphics card at a higher overclock (particularly the GPU core), I now run version 75.90 Forceware drivers and I have the latest HL2 updates.
post #15 of 28
I've got same problem you described in the canals ...

I'm using latest HL2 update via stem but the 71.84 drivers ... Maybe it's the problem ?
I try with higher clock for the GPU but no way ...

Did someone have the same problem with 71.84 forceware or other version ?

THX !

deuch
post #16 of 28
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I'm running HL2 @ 1680x1050 w/ 4xFSAA with no problems! But no AF.
post #17 of 28
What is your driver version ?

deuch
post #18 of 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deuch
What is your driver version ?

deuch
I'm using the latest Nvidia drivers 71.84. Keep in mind, your card is the older version.
post #19 of 28
I'm playing HL² in 1024x768 with AA4x and no AF ... Without AA it's the same thing ... But Doom 3 or Far cary have not this problem ... If i overclock my card, same problem.

And frame drop in little canal with montser or special effect (no ligth, smoke etc ...)!!!

deuch
post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 
I've got no idea whats wrong there! tried new drivers?
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