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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
so who has a fix for "could not open the bluetooth ACPI device manager (tosrfec.sys)" error message when trying to connect bluetooth?
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post #3 of 23
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that doesn't help..thx...any thing else
post #4 of 23
I take it you got the BT SDIO card then? Does Windows pick it up in Device Manager?
post #5 of 23
laff, try this: go to belkin.com and get the BT software for the F8T003. I know you don't have a Belkin, but ignore that. Install it, and try again.

I've found that the Belkin software works with *any* BT adapter and works better than the XP software. As long as XP is picking the card up in Device Manager, this might work.
post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
it's picking up the card as MMC not bluetooth
post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 
belkin software doesn't work, since it is usb.

still getting tosrfec.sys error
post #8 of 23
Damn...no software came with the BT SDIO card?
post #9 of 23
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i'm giving up...as it is taking too much of my time...i'm going to just get a bluetooth PCMCIA card instead..that way no sticking out.

re: the toshiba card:

it comes with software: it includes bluetooth manager and windows xp stack for bluetooth

if it did work, i was going to still return it for the following reasons:

it sticks out a little more than i would like, so it isn't really conducive to keeping it in the slot at all times when travelling.

second, the card didn't lock into the slot for some reason like regular sd cards. there was minor friction, but it came out way too easily. if you tug on a sd card, it will not come out.

I also tried it with a PCMCIA card reader, but it did not work in it either. I think it is the way dell has the sd card set up..you can't boot from the sd card either. and when you format the HD, windows xp does not id it...i think that the chipset is capable of working since it is the same chipset in the bluetooth modules, but some how it isn't configured right in the 700m. perhaps it isn't getting enough juice to run the card...but the ACPI error has me believing that dell could fix the compatibility issue in a bios revision. don't know. there is very little info about the tosrfec.sys; the problem isn't unique to the SD card as i've read the same error with USB devices as well. unless someone can figure out a work around, it ain't gonna work.

but, irregardless, like i said, the two reasons i posted are sufficient for me to not recommend the device even if it did work.

I am going to go with a bluetooth PC card instead since there is nothing really that is sticking out from the pc card. 3com makes one in xjack format where the xjack pops out an antenna, but i may go for the Zoom even though the 3com has 1Mbps vs. Zoom 723Kbps transfer rates

3com model: 3CRWB6096B
ZOOM model: 14312-00-68

anyone have experience with either? or some other pc card?

i am currently using iogear class 1 usb bluetooth adapter until i get the pc card.

The ioegear 800DPI bluetooth mouse is very nice...it is small and very accurate (thus 800dpi). the only thing is you need to essentially max out the pointer speed to get what i'm use to in terms of pointer movement speed.
post #10 of 23
Well, I'm glad I didn't waste my $100 concession coupon then.
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
yeah, i know what you mean...the fact is, even if it did work, i didn't like how it stuck out and the fact it wouldn't lock in (don't know if the lock in is a function of it being faulty or not though). anyways, the pc card is my next purchase as it doesn't stick out since the antennas on either the 3com or the Zoom retrack. actually i've decided on the Zoom since it is class 1 versus 3com class 2 and the fact that Zoom is half the price.
post #12 of 23
Laffingbilly....

How about Bluetooth compactflash card with PC adapters? Will that work? Any good one.
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
if my second test was any indication, no. I went and got a multi card reader and tried to employ the toshiba sdio card, but it didn't work either. i do not have another device and if i had more wherewithall i would have tried the sdio card in something else to see if it was the card or if it was the computer. toshiba is very lame on the issue and states that it is either you don't have bluetooth or the card is faulty.

i should have tried it in some other device like a pocket pc to see if it would work to confirm that it was either compatibility issue or that it was a defective card.

i also bought a CF+ pc card adapter that you suggested, but the software didn't include windows xp, so i could not test it. I'm not sure if there is anything particular to the CF pc card reader that would make it work, though, in the 700m. unless you have cf card, i don't see the need to go with it versus a bluetooth pc card. plus, less moving pieces is better in my mind, especially when the card sticks out.

you can test one by just going to like fry's or compusa or someplace that has a return policy and test it out yourself i got tired of going back into fry's testing stuff out in my car and then returning it.

i have a bluetooth pc card on the way. the 3com 3CRWB6096B (note the B as the none-b model is old and suffered from connection issues from what i'm told...ebay lists the non-b versions. you will see the current model listed as NO GOVED which means no govt or education sales nothing to do with the card). i don't see why a bluetooth pc card would not work. so since i had to pay $100 for the thing, i'm hoping it will work. the great advantage about the pc card is that it stays flush and the antenna is retractable (Xjack style) when not in use (haven't read lit on it, so i don't know if it works without deploying the antenna...don't see why it wouldn't for mouse use purposes only).

i opted to go with the 3com over the Zoom 4312 b/c the 3com looks to be flush versus the Zoom sticking out very little. both have retractable antennas though. Zoom costs half of the 3com. the other pc cards out there stick out which i did not want. I've read mixed reviews about Zoom products, but mostly from 2002/2003 time frame, so i cannot determine if it is a good product or not. The Zoom costs less or about the same as a CF bluetooth plus CF pc card adapter. like i said, the Zoom and 3com made my list b/c of the none to very little protrusion of the card.

i'm hoping to get the 3com by friday, or monday at the latest.

this iogear mini bluetooth 800dpi mouse is great, but it is a bit narrow for my hand...i am waiting for the bluetake BT510 to come available within the next two weeks to get it as it is slighly wider, has usb chargable cord, on/off switch, and 800dpi. i'm still torn though between it and the anycom btm-100 which has the same features, except that the charging cable is more like a cradle which i'm not sure that i like. the great thing about the iogear is that it has usb to mini usb cord which is the same cable i need for my motorola RAZR which means i wouldn't have to carry two types of cables, but the thing is a little too narrow and not for whole day use.
post #14 of 23
Thanks for all the info on the BT card choices, are you saying htat the Belkin BT F8T006-PC sold by Dell probable won't work or did I misread an earlier reply.

I want to get a BT GPS but am now concerned that the 700m doesn't have a good way to receive BT. May have to try an ugly USB BT.
post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 
no, i said that i bought a CF plus PCMCIA adapter combo but it didn't have the software to support windows xp, so i couldn't test it. i do not know if the CF combo pc card will work or not. i suggest that you can go to compusa or fry's or someplace that has them and try it out.

i tried a all in one media card pcmcia reader with the toshiba SDIO but that didn't work either...with that, i said that i do not know if the pc adapter for the CF bluetooth has anything special which would make it work as well, but i should think it would work.

here are two issues with the toshiba sdio: first, i think the software may be the problem rather than the device itself. the 700m picks up the sdio card as a MMC disk drive. toshiba only provides a basic bluetooth manager and windows stack. i think the problem is in the windows stack more than anything. the TI chipset has the capability of SDIO so there is something that isn't jiving in the software application. if socket communications made windows xp software for their sdio card, i would have tried it; second, like i said i didn't try it on a pocket pc, which would have told me for sure if it was a compatability issue vs. a faulty sdio card.

when i tried it in the pcmcia media reader, it gave me the same issue and read it as a disk drive rather than bluetooth. it is recognizing it as a device, but the bluetooth part is enabling. that again leads me to think it may be a software issue. considering that there are other people with tosrfec.sys issues, this may be the case more than the SD slot in the 700m not supporting it.

like i said, i would just get a pcmcia bluetooth adapter as opposed to a combo thing like the belkin...unless you are saying that you want to get a CF GPS adapter for it. i read that you wanted to get a bluetooth gps, in which case i do not see any reason of getting a combo version vs. just a bluetooth pc card. the belkin is about the same price (depending on where you get it, the 3com i got can be had as low as $72) as the 3com. there are other less expensive ones out there though.

like i said, i should get the 3com in the next few days. if it doesn't work i will be very surprised. the only other option then would be a USB bluetooth dongle, which i am currently using until the 3com comes in.

again, i would go to a local store that has a 30 day return and try out the cf combo thing. it was bad luck that i didn't read the package to see that the one i bought didn't support windows xp.
post #16 of 23
zoom bluetooth


post #17 of 23
Thread Starter 
hmm, that looks pretty good...i should send the 3com back and get the zoom for half the cost...how does the zoom perform?
post #18 of 23
Hey Guys,

What I think is that 700m doesn't support sdio or else Dell should have mentioned that. Anyways, now the question is whether to go for some kind of combo bluetooth adapters or just the PCMCIA one. If u think about future and u r a "techie" kinda person then combo shud be for u. My thinking is that if combo doesn't protrude then why not to go for it coz its also cheaper in the range of 50-60 bucks.
I am also concerned about PCMCIA card being protruded. 3Com shud be the 1st choice but its costlier. Zoom seems fine.
There is one more in the market- TDK. I couldn't find if it sticks out or not. it has no antenna though coming out. It also has 100m of range. Another one is by Socket and also anycom.

If anyone is using these, I wud request to put a review about that. Laff........ can u plz post the length of the 3com card when it arrives. That may help.
post #19 of 23
well im new to the buetooth thing but the first download i made was 2.5mb in one minute. is that time about right? ill test again once i get home.
post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 
don't understand what you mean by combo? like a pc card with CF adapter? all three stick out like a 802.11 wireless card
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