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Widescreen 4760 worth it??

post #1 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:11pm
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i've been checkin out the NP-4760 widescreen laptop.... and i was wondering what people's opinion on it is....

I dont' know much about computers.... but I like the idea of the widescreen and i want to use my laptop to play high graphic games....

It cums with the radeon 9000 64 MB video.... is that powerful??
and if not can i replace it with a 9600 128??

So all opinion will help thank you!!!
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post #2 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:13pm
wait about 20 days

the 4680 will be out


comes with the m10pro, 800fsb, and dual channel ram


... and a $300 higher price tag

but thus is the price of power hehe
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post #3 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:23pm
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are they gonna offer a higher MB video card???
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post #4 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:25pm
Will the 4670 still be available when the 4680 comes out?

I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I want to wait for a 17" with a higher resolution. I've been reading rumors on this board about the possibility of a WUXGA on the 4680, but then others saying that it won't happen anytime soon.

I'm not a gamer so I'm not worried about how games will look on the current 17" display but I spend a lot of time in Visual Studo and using text editors so I'd like to maximize screen real estate if possible.

I went an played with a 17" Powerbook (I've read it's the same display), opened a text editor, and I guess it's not that bad. I also read that the 4760 will run my 21" CRT at 1600x1200 in a dual-monitor setup so that's an option for me as well.

Is anyone here using the 4760 as a primary development machine?
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post #5 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:34pm
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Originally posted by anthonyb
Will the 4670 still be available when the 4680 comes out?
There's no way to know for sure. Sager planned to offer the 5670 and 8887 for a few weeks even after the release of the 8890 and 5680, but they sold out of them and they were not offered as soon as the new models came.
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post #6 of 46
9/5/03 at 4:41pm
the new video card will be a radeon 9600 pro mobility with 128mb


enough to tie u down for a few years


no i do not believe the 4760 will still be available whewn 4680 comes out
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post #7 of 46
9/5/03 at 5:09pm
How do you know it's $300 more? Was it posted anywhere and i missed it? let me know because in about 25 days is when i'm going to order my 5680 and I really do love the wide screen + full keyboard so....

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Originally posted by skyline421
wait about 20 days

the 4680 will be out


comes with the m10pro, 800fsb, and dual channel ram


... and a $300 higher price tag

but thus is the price of power hehe
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post #8 of 46
9/5/03 at 5:29pm
sorry let me clarify I do not know FOR SURE

but...when the 5680 came out, the baseline model was $300 more than te baseline 5760..so I was using it as a point of reference

I have good reason to believe though that it will be considerably more expensive, considering what you are getting, especilly the upgraded video card
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post #9 of 46
9/5/03 at 5:38pm
Just my opinion...you'll probably be waiting significantly longer than 20 days for the 4780, so don't count on an early October release.
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post #10 of 46
9/5/03 at 6:12pm
17" can be deceiving.

If you compare it, it is the same height as a 15" but wider.
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post #11 of 46
9/5/03 at 7:32pm
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well...... that settles it..... i'll wait for the 4680 to come out and get that. All i wanted was the 17 inch with the full keyboard and i get a high end video card....... so i'm satisfied.
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post #12 of 46
9/5/03 at 11:18pm
Just gotta go with one thing here...

as a "gamer" you dont want a widescreen. They tend to use obscure resolutions, which many games dont support. And of course, since performance is an issue, keep in mind the wide screen's higher res will tax your card (assuming you get a game to run at that res) more than a normal res...
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post #13 of 46
9/5/03 at 11:44pm

cums?

Interesting choice of word useage....but ive heard the widescreen is really something to look at. But its not for gaming as you may not get the full screen effect for the wide screen. But again, i heard the WUXGA is a serious sight to behold..
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post #14 of 46
9/5/03 at 11:46pm

Re: cums?

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Originally posted by Icefluxx
Interesting choice of word useage....but ive heard the widescreen is really something to look at. But its not for gaming as you may not get the full screen effect for the wide screen. But again, i heard the WUXGA is a serious sight to behold..
Word useage?? Im not followin you here. I am simply saying a wide screen, no matter how clear, will be close to useless in games, since none will run at the res the Widescreen runs at...
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post #15 of 46
9/6/03 at 12:19am
Being a proud owner of a 4760, its beautiful....





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kinda like
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post #16 of 46
9/6/03 at 3:02am
if the 4680 comes out in 20 days. THEN I"LL BE
I just ordered a 4760 it comes in on monday, I swear this thing will be returned if I see preorders or anything for the 4680 soon.
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post #17 of 46
9/6/03 at 9:33am
QUOTE:

"""as a "gamer" you dont want a widescreen. They tend to use obscure resolutions, which many games dont support. And of course, since performance is an issue, keep in mind the wide screen's higher res will tax your card (assuming you get a game to run at that res) more than a normal res..."""

Is this true?

1. Can you have problems with games due to the "special" resolution ratio? I thought Adam said that games outmatically strech out to fill the screen?

2. Is it true that you may notice a performance hit in games due to the 1400x900 res?

Adam please, any comments?




Cheers.
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post #18 of 46
9/6/03 at 1:53pm
this is what is going to happen:
games will be in res 640x480, or 800x600 but they will be streched. So people will appear short and fat . But who cares! th 4760 is not meant to be a gaming lappy, get 5680 if your gonna play games.

Now Bear in mind, NEW GAMES are coming with wide screen support here are some:

GTA 3/GTA Vice City
Midnight Club 2
I think UT2003 also has widesceen support
Madden 2004
Warcarft 3? Prolly not,
I think Genrals has support also

Basiclaly a ton of new games will have wide screen support, and then you'll be happy with your 17inch wide screen.
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post #19 of 46
9/6/03 at 2:00pm
Quote:
Originally posted by WTB
QUOTE:

"""as a "gamer" you dont want a widescreen. They tend to use obscure resolutions, which many games dont support. And of course, since performance is an issue, keep in mind the wide screen's higher res will tax your card (assuming you get a game to run at that res) more than a normal res..."""

Is this true?

1. Can you have problems with games due to the "special" resolution ratio? I thought Adam said that games outmatically strech out to fill the screen?

2. Is it true that you may notice a performance hit in games due to the 1400x900 res?

Adam please, any comments?




Cheers.
Games have to be told what resolution to run at. However, normally, they only have support for certain types. Now, lets say you choose the one that is closest. Two things will happen here.

Your monitor will simply only use a 1024x768 block of pixels. The clarity will be there, but it will be stretched , since the screen itself is streched.

Your monitor wont do the resolutiuon at all.

And an odd size res is not the FPS killer. Its simply the higer res in general 800x600<1024x768..
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post #20 of 46
9/6/03 at 3:00pm
I must be very dense today cause I just dont get why people say that the future 4780 is not a gamer's machine as oppossed to the 5680. Is it because of the SiS board? Cause honestly, it's the only difference I see between the two.

As far as the screen res goes, if there're some games already that accept wide-screen resses, Im possitive most of the future games will too, so I see no biggie there.



Cheers.
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