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HP NC8230 Configurable NOW!

post #1 of 35
3/21/05 at 5:40am
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http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/Mid...D=19701&SBLID=

Clicky - Click Here
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post #2 of 35
3/21/05 at 5:46am
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Funny it specifed DDR-533Mhz type memory. But you could select the X600 w/128MB video, LoL!
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post #3 of 35
3/21/05 at 6:08am
Wow! Great!
But why is 533 MHz memory surprising?
Specs state that it is supported.
But why other nc8230s use 400 MHz memory?
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post #4 of 35
3/21/05 at 2:02pm
smilepak - except for the thinness of the asus v6, can you kindly give your personal assessment between the hp8230 vs asus v6? Both looks great to me now that you can configure the 8230. I have about a month more before I buy so here is my lineup - asus w3, z71, v6 now that you have shown it...hp8230. Thank you.

p.s. - is there a link I can look at some pictures for the 8230?
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post #5 of 35
3/21/05 at 2:59pm
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In my opinion, that would depends....

Asus V6 -> Advantage is better design and lower price

HP N8230 -> Advantage X600 w/128MB video. But a bit pricey.

If it was me, I would go with Asus V6V. It is a much better design laptop, cost less, and it is Asus
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post #6 of 35
3/21/05 at 3:16pm
got it - thank you smilepak.....
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post #7 of 35
3/24/05 at 9:34pm
HP now has the nc8230's, including the configurable model, shipping in mid-April. The ship date was 3/26 when I placed my order on Monday. I suppose I'll be waiting an additional two to trhee weeks before I receive my nc8230. Hopefully another system won't catch my eye between now and then!
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post #8 of 35
3/24/05 at 10:15pm
How does the Tecra M3 stack up to these?
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post #9 of 35
3/26/05 at 6:13pm
Anybody know when the nerdy brother of the 8230, the 8240 is going to be available?

Tellerve

(I say nerdy, 'cause it has a professional level video card )
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post #10 of 35
3/26/05 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
In my opinion, that would depends....

Asus V6 -> Advantage is better design and lower price

HP N8230 -> Advantage X600 w/128MB video. But a bit pricey.

If it was me, I would go with Asus V6V. It is a much better design laptop, cost less, and it is Asus
I don't think the Asus V6 has a cost advantage over the nc8230.

If you configure the nc8230 to have exactly the same specs as the V6V,

1.86GHz CPU
802.11 a/b/g
X600 64MB
60GB 5400 RPM
512 MB RAM (256 x 2)
DVD +/-RW drive
WSXGA+ (nc8230) SXGA+ (V6V)
Bluetooth

the nc8230 comes out to $2,173.00 on the HP web site. You can find this same configuration from a Web retailer for about $2100, which is less than the V6V.

Sure, the V6V gives you a better design, the carrying case, and the travel mouse. But, spec for spec, the nc8230 is not more expensive than the V6V.

I would even venture to say that based on what I've read about the V6V's viewing angles, that the HP with its WSXGA+ Wide Viewing Angle, might have it beat. This also might hold true for the nc8230 in terms of battery life. There's also the nc8230's 3-year warranty to consider as well.

It was these characteristics, as well as the 128MB video option that made me choose the HP over the V6V. The looks of the V6V are definitely hard to ignore. But, when spending $2200 on a system, it's hard to ignore the system that gives you the most for your money, at least in my case anyway.
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post #11 of 35
3/27/05 at 10:26am
Still not available yet in Canada. Waiting, waiting, waiting...

On top of that we can't get the V6V here either. Boo.
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post #12 of 35
3/27/05 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by mclassic
Sure, the V6V gives you a better design, the carrying case, and the travel mouse. But, spec for spec, the nc8230 is not more expensive than the V6V.
I actually prefer the look of the HP. The Asus is almost too sleek looking. Don't get me wrong, it's a very attractive design. The HP design, though, is slim and simple--just what I want from my laptop. Ideally, I'd like to get a built-to-order nx8220 and pop out the optical drive to save on weight.
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post #13 of 35
3/27/05 at 1:55pm
I'd like to see a configurable nx8220 become available as well. I don't need the pointing stick, extra mouse buttons or serial port that the nc8230 has. I imagine that would save at least a few ounces.

If I could find some info on the nx8220's warranty, I'd cancel my nc8230 order and wait. I think I'll give HP a call tomorrow to see what kind of info I can get.
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post #14 of 35
3/27/05 at 1:57pm
Wow... this seems like a sweet machine.
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post #15 of 35
3/27/05 at 3:01pm
I hope the nw8240 will be available for configuration soon.
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post #16 of 35
3/28/05 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by mclassic
I'd like to see a configurable nx8220 become available as well. I don't need the pointing stick, extra mouse buttons or serial port that the nc8230 has. I imagine that would save at least a few ounces.

If I could find some info on the nx8220's warranty, I'd cancel my nc8230 order and wait. I think I'll give HP a call tomorrow to see what kind of info I can get.
Let us know what you find.
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post #17 of 35
3/28/05 at 2:24am
nx8220 is available on the HP UK site:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en...-12115178.html

It has one year warranty there.
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post #18 of 35
3/28/05 at 10:41am
Does anyone know if the nx8220 is a European model only? Everything that I've found seems to indicate that it's a European spec. I'll still call HP to see what I can find.

The one-year warranty isn't a big deal as long an extended warranty option can be purchased and it isn't more expensive than an nc8230 with a similar configuration.
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post #19 of 35
3/29/05 at 3:11pm
I spoke with HP about availability of the nx8220 in the US. It doesn't appear that it will be released here. I spoke with both their pre-sales and sales divisions. The pre-sales rep said that he doesn't have it on his product release roadmap.

Since they're not going to release the nx8220 here, they could at least allow the option to not get the pointing stick, extra touchpad buttons and serial port. Very strange.

It looks like I'll be keeping my nc8230 order.
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post #20 of 35
3/30/05 at 1:44am
I found this owner's impression over at notebookreview... http://www.notebookreview.com/forums...19&whichpage=2

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Originally Posted by mtnmasher
I just received an 8230 that I ordered over a month ago. All is well, except for one thing. I like to use the touch pad and buttons below it. I don't know what the he*# they were thinking when they designed the buttons on this thing, but they obviously never actually used them. After two hours use I already have a sore spot on my right thumb from the ridge on the left button. I will have to get a mouse, because these touchpad buttons are completley unuseable. Are all HPs this way? I've used IBMs in the Past (R40, T40, T42), and a Dell Inspiron 4000, and I've never had any problems before. I don't know how HP could have gotten something as basic as this so wrong!!! I sure hope I get used to it, because everything else about this unit rates an A+++.

Dissapointed
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Originally Posted by mtnmasher
I have a few more comments about the touch pad. First, I am accustomed to scrolling by holding the left touchpad button down with my right thumb, and scrolling using the index finger of my right hand. You simply can not do that with this laptop. The ridge on the left mouse button will wear a hole through the skin on your thumb. Dumbest design I have ever seen! But wait! The center mouse button activates a scrol tool that lets you automatically scroll with miniscule motions on the touch pad. Move the mouse down a hair, and the screen will slowly scroll down as you read. Move the mouse down a little more, and it will scroll down so fast that you would have to be a speed reader to keep up with it. This feature has probably been around for ages, but I have not used it until this machine forced me to. I may grow to like that feature.

Next, the touch pad is very wide, but since the left button is so small you must keep your hand all of the way over to the left of the touch pad during normal use. All of that width is wasted. They should have had a MUCH wider left mouse button, in both the X and Y dimensions. I don't think they did much market research before puting this touch pad design into production. I certainly don't think it will survive in its current configuration for long. Sorry HP, you shoulda done your homework.

I bought the machine through HP-online. The specs are: 2GHz, WXGA+, 802.11a,b,g, integrated bluetooth, 24x DVD/CD RW, 1GB DDR-II, 60GB 5400rpm HDD, PB993A travel battery (snaps ONTO the bottom of the unit,kind of like a docking station.

I have 30 days to decide if I want to keep this machine. Right now there is a 60% chance I will return it.
This is definitely an issue for me. It's the main reason that I want an nx8220. I'm not sure what I'll do about my nc8230 order now that I have this bit of information.
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