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post #21 of 35
9/8/03 at 5:14pm
it's possible the laptop motherboard is built to be a little more flexible than desktop motherboards...

the 865pe DOES support prescott (according to a few links on Intel's website) as per this pdf... ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...x/25251803.pdf

and since voltage regulation is up the the motherboard... it's possible Clevo designed the board to work with the voltage level for Prescott.

why do you think laptops are so expensive? (maybe)

that's pretty interesting...
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post #22 of 35
9/8/03 at 5:17pm
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Wow.. this has gotten much more interesting. If the 5680 (and 8890 for that matter) really can take the next gen CPU, life will be really good.
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post #23 of 35
9/8/03 at 6:03pm
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Originally posted by mcl
Yes. Intel's moving to Socket 775 in Q2 2004:

http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20...4_3200-02.html


...and you're right; technically, it's the VRM that's at fault, not the 865/875 chip itself. However, the VRM tends to go hand-in-hand with the chipset (hence the term "chip SET", not "chip" when referring to a given platform).
eh... last i recall... it's called chipset because of a Northbridge/Southbridge combo...

voltage regulation is up to capacitors/resistors that the motherboard has... even a seperate chip to determine between different levels (future example, old P4 vs Prescott).

i've had older boards that use the same "chipset" as other brands, and yet, i have control over the voltage.
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post #24 of 35
9/8/03 at 6:10pm
There's always the possibility that Sager will offer it as an upgrade in the future..... along with a new motherboard and video card too... so that makes it look even better!
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post #25 of 35
9/9/03 at 1:38am
Unless you got money to burn, it's probably not going to be worth it. The real bottleneck is the bus and ram. Dual channel helps quite a bit, and the 800MHz bus is good, but you are probably only going to see minimal gains using a 478 Prescott (unless you're upgrading from the 2.4GHz to the 3.4GHz).

Now, the real gains will be had with the 775 Prescott. That will be the one to save up for.
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post #26 of 35
9/9/03 at 1:42am
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Originally posted by Fusion
Unless you got money to burn, it's probably not going to be worth it. The real bottleneck is the bus and ram. Dual channel helps quite a bit, and the 800MHz bus is good, but you are probably only going to see minimal gains using a 478 Prescott (unless you're upgrading from the 2.4GHz to the 3.4GHz).

Now, the real gains will be had with the 775 Prescott. That will be the one to save up for.

Actually, the 478 Prescotts will have double the L2 cache. That would help a noticeable amount.
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post #27 of 35
9/9/03 at 1:45am
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That, and they have improved HT and SSE2, and other core improvements... its more than just a speed bump. And for the laptop, it may be really worth getting a 3.4, as i am sure it would help in the long run..
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post #28 of 35
9/9/03 at 2:44pm
Those are all great improvements, and would be a worthy upgrade for most of those still on 400 or 533 busses and ~2.0GHz P4s, but I still think the real benefits will be found on socket 775 systems.

I'm sure those improvements could help some high level apps like 3dsmax or photoshop increase real-world performance by a bit, but I'm just saying that it's probably not worth the money if you just got a new 5680, the bottleneck is still in the bus/ram (and HD too).

Not to start a flame war or something because it's really more or less a difference in opinion. In the end, anyone can spend however much money on whatever they want to (like an alienware or voodooPC).
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post #29 of 35
9/9/03 at 3:14pm
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I cant see how the bottleneck will be differnt, as even the 775s will be 800 chips at first. they will move to 1000, but not initally.

Regardless, im still not sure u understand the improvement it is set to make. Even "bottlenecked", it has a hell of alot better features, so hey, why not?
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post #30 of 35
9/11/03 at 1:23am
Hey i was just wondering what the 3rd (small fan) underneath the laptop is cooling? Is it additional cooling for the whole laptop or is it for some small device that may need that extra cooling?
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post #31 of 35
9/11/03 at 1:31am
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Originally posted by Killafornia
Hey i was just wondering what the 3rd (small fan) underneath the laptop is cooling? Is it additional cooling for the whole laptop or is it for some small device that may need that extra cooling?
I read it was for the M10-P... but not certain.
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post #32 of 35
9/11/03 at 10:26am
Good ones Tdd
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post #33 of 35
9/11/03 at 12:11pm
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Originally posted by tdd
Infinity306:

Here's a few more to add to your sig:

"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not."
-Stephen Wright

"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."
-Henny Youngman

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
- Benjamin Franklin
Well yeah i couldve put in more but i dont think anybody wants to see a signature that fills the whole screen LOL
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post #34 of 35
9/12/03 at 9:30am
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Originally posted by Fusion
Unless you got money to burn, it's probably not going to be worth it. The real bottleneck is the bus and ram. Dual channel helps quite a bit, and the 800MHz bus is good, but you are probably only going to see minimal gains using a 478 Prescott (unless you're upgrading from the 2.4GHz to the 3.4GHz).

Now, the real gains will be had with the 775 Prescott. That will be the one to save up for.
It's going to support DDR2 ram, which will clear up the ram bottleneck... of course, the 5680 won't support DDR2 unless you upgrade the whole mobo, which would be kinda stupid unless you've got more money than you know what to do with.
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post #35 of 35
9/12/03 at 9:35am
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Originally posted by beatgeek
It's going to support DDR2 ram, which will clear up the ram bottleneck... of course, the 5680 won't support DDR2 unless you upgrade the whole mobo, which would be kinda stupid unless you've got more money than you know what to do with.
Or you wait a year....
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