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post #121 of 1202
Does anyone know what the difference between using P-state transitions (PST and On-Demand Clock Modulation (ODCM)? My Pentium-M supports both. Which is more efficient? Right now I'm using P-State transitions. Both of them will change the cpu frequency but which is better?
post #122 of 1202
P-state as it allows for voltage changes and gives you more control over frequency.
post #123 of 1202
Does anyone else have problems undervolting where your computer freezes while you're on Step #8?
post #124 of 1202
You can undervolt just about any CPU (AMD, Intel, Motorola, Samsung, etc). Most people with desktops want to overclock the CPU (make the CPU faster than what its rated for). Overclocking usually requires you overvolt your CPU. Of course, the amount of juice you use on a desktop doesn't matter because you are plugged into the wall.

With a laptop (using a battery), undervolting saves power. No performance changes what-so-ever. By using less power, it also runs cooler. Cooler CPU ----> Slower / no fans -----> Less power used / quieter laptop -----> Happier user!

The reason why CPU companies don't undervolt their chips to begin with is that not all chips can be undervolted to the same level, but ALL can run at the original level. In my case (Pentium M 1.6GHz; Inspiron 9300), my CPU originally was running at 1.356v (max; 1.6GHz) and 0.988v (min; 800MHz). I have mine down to 0.908v (max; 1.6GHz) and 0.700v (min; 800MHz). That's 33% less voltage (and power)! I dropped over 30F. I also reduced my power (this is while the CPU is running at 100%) by 11 watts! This is just by undervolting the CPU. No performance change, no cracking the case open.

The reason you need RightMark is because you can't set the voltage levels in the BIOS (like you can with most desktops). So, you need the software to change it for you when your computer starts up.

MobileMeter is also a GREAT utility to see how much power you save by undervolting. SuperPI is a great program to max your CPU out at 100%. FanGUI to manage fans.
post #125 of 1202

Great post needledik, bring more...

Great post needledik, bring more...

Hi, i also would like to hear from someone who done this experiment w/ a 700m.
And what are the times you got w/ a 4 cell and 8 cell?
Right now i have both, but the 4 cell is uselles for me because i need it for school and 2:30 average won't do for me.



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Originally Posted by pr50wner
im way too lazy to read 20 steps let alone carry out 20 steps. but looks like a good post!
post #126 of 1202
I posted my results already, but I'd like to add something to put things into perspective. Earlier today I was playing the free trial of EQ2 (that damned game is going to seal my life I fear... my money too) when I realized my laptop felt really hot. At first I thought it was because I was wearing shorts for the first time since I'd gotten it, but then the fan kicked into high gear (I have fangui set to do this IF the cpu hits 150*) that was when I remembered that I had closed rightmark earlier to see the temp difference. After restarting right mark, temps dropped to 102* in less than 15 seconds. That is just amazing thanks again to everybody who provided this information!
post #127 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Kenshino
I tried reducing the Maximum VID but it keeps jumping back to the original value whenever I press the apply button. I'm using a Compaq B3818AP.

What's the problem?
Hey Keshino have you found a fix for this? Im having the same problems. The Maxiaml VID keeps on jumping back to the original value. Help.
post #128 of 1202
Sorry about the stupid question, but how do you get the Prime 95 to show if you decrease too much the numbers in the other program?
Thanks!!
post #129 of 1202
If Prime 95 reports an error, it means you decreased too much already.
post #130 of 1202
I am on "Always On".
Minimum VID at 0.700v and max at 1.196v.
The CPU throthling between 600 to 2000MHz depend on the load.

So far so stable.
I am editing image using Photoshop CS, running 4 - 7 Firefox windows, Microsoft Outlook 2003, CPUZ (to monitor the clock behave), Acrobat Reader 7 (reading manual of Uniwill).

If no problem, then I will lowered the voltage again.

Actually I have done this several weeks ago before I read this post. Found the head-up on x1000's forum.

But effort and time consuming writing done by needledik is very much I appreciated.

cangguek
post #131 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Picard
Hey Keshino have you found a fix for this? Im having the same problems. The Maxiaml VID keeps on jumping back to the original value. Help.
Picard, do you mean the Max VID on the General tab, or the Max VID dropdown menu on the Management tab? If the dropdown menu stays set, then you are good to go - don't worry about the other reading.
My Max VID reading on the General tab just stays at the max for the chip (1.308) - regardless of what I set on the Management tab (1.004). But the chip never goes over 1.004.
post #132 of 1202
Hey do you guys use fangui with rmclock? Coz when my rm clock is running, fangui shows that my cpu load is 100% (constant and no changes).
post #133 of 1202
Can someone post a decent link to MobileMeter? I am having trouble finding a suitable download site.

thanks
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post #135 of 1202
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Hey do you guys use fangui with rmclock? Coz when my rm clock is running, fangui shows that my cpu load is 100% (constant and no changes).
Try checking the "Use alternate CPU load method" (or somthing like that) on one of the tabs (one of the last 2 I think). I wish I could be more specific, but I'm at work and don't have access to fangui.
post #136 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Picard
Hey do you guys use fangui with rmclock? Coz when my rm clock is running, fangui shows that my cpu load is 100% (constant and no changes).
I posted this on page 8:
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Originally Posted by BlownFuse
...I am using I8kfanGUI 2.2.0 to monitor temps and control fans....
The only thing different that I did, was checked off the "use alternate cpu load determination method" instead of the other one. It was the only way I could get it to stop showing 100% cpu usage all the time....
Now I just run fanGUI and RMClock for control of my temps, fans, and the speedstep settings....
Picard, did you work out the Max VID readings?
post #137 of 1202
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Originally Posted by BlownFuse
I posted this on page 8:


Picard, did you work out the Max VID readings?
Yes, What I actually did is to work on the Minimal VID first then the Maximal VID just worked. My Minimal is 0.700V and maximal is 0.972V. But I only tested each for 30 mins. Do I really have to torture-test each settings for HOURS?
post #138 of 1202
Thread Starter 
Yes.
post #139 of 1202
Another quick question, what will happed it i did not test the setting enough and continue to use these settings and an error occurs? Will this result in a BSOD?
post #140 of 1202
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