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post #161 of 1202
4/14/05 at 1:01pm
I have a problem at times with RMclock crashing when I try to show or hide the menus. This has happened whether or not I'm running the stock or modified voltages. Has anyone else experienced this and if so is there a workaround?

Thx,

John
XPS2 2.0G
1.2Gram
60G Hitachi7200
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post #162 of 1202
4/14/05 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by Atmer
I have a problem at times with RMclock crashing when I try to show or hide the menus. This has happened whether or not I'm running the stock or modified voltages. Has anyone else experienced this and if so is there a workaround?

Thx,

John
XPS2 2.0G
1.2Gram
60G Hitachi7200
Download and reinstall RMClock again.
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post #163 of 1202
4/14/05 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by Tellerve
The fans come on occassionally but really I typically have to check the fan control unless I'm really focusing and leaning in near the computer. The fans are very quiet, never over 3k rpm and typically around 2.5k-ish. As for battery life, *shrugs* I dunno, I didn't test the system at its old amount, but I'd imagine it isn't a huge amount but maybe 15-20minutes at most like most everyone else.

Before I did the test and I would run prime at the old setting it would stay at 54 C with fans always on, now that I lowered it it would go down to 45 C, fans would shut off and slowly creep up to 62-65C in ~ 2 minutes before the fans came back on and dropped it back down, which took about ~7 minutes. Rinse and repeat.

Tellerve
Hey disable the fans i think you are running it cool enough. My frnied turn his fans on aroun 77ish he said and when it hits thaqt it turn on low yea its a b it hot but he hates noise but he said that when hes playing a game when he just doing moderate tasks no sign of fan! This is a trutly amazing laptop
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post #164 of 1202
4/14/05 at 4:01pm
hm, you mean disable them by using a profile generated by RMClock? As it is windows xp is doing the fans as far as I can tell, as I haven't checked the box that would allow those profiles to work in RMClock. I did do it once but it didn't seem to work, although I didn't give it a lot of time.

I'll tinker with it some more for sure, but I don't mind the occasional fan, although I wonder how much juice the fans use...I wouldn't figure too much, but I dunno.

Also, does anyone know what the safe temps for ram is? My ram is often the hottest thing listed, but whenever it gets a bit "too" hot, mid to high 60s C the cpu is usually close and the fans turn on and they also start going down.

Tellerve
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post #165 of 1202
4/14/05 at 4:08pm
New version of RMClock is out!
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post #166 of 1202
4/14/05 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by OwcA
New version of RMClock is out!
Currently trying it out.
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post #167 of 1202
4/14/05 at 4:59pm
were you having trouble with the old one? I don't see that it really does anything that would need updating, at least for me that is.

Tellerve
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post #168 of 1202
4/14/05 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Tellerve
hm, you mean disable them by using a profile generated by RMClock? As it is windows xp is doing the fans as far as I can tell, as I haven't checked the box that would allow those profiles to work in RMClock. I did do it once but it didn't seem to work, although I didn't give it a lot of time.

I'll tinker with it some more for sure, but I don't mind the occasional fan, although I wonder how much juice the fans use...I wouldn't figure too much, but I dunno.

Also, does anyone know what the safe temps for ram is? My ram is often the hottest thing listed, but whenever it gets a bit "too" hot, mid to high 60s C the cpu is usually close and the fans turn on and they also start going down.

Tellerve
60c is not bad at all most notebook go up to 75ishC its safe to say u can turn your fans of in the ulitilty http://www.diefer.de/i8kfan/ Keep it off most of the time. I keep my firned off 95 or 96 percent of the time and when gaming i dont have it com e on till about to 10-15 min and it still goes off and on. His is undervolted the same as your. Acutally i think it is a little less! Ill report his volting after i play with doom 3 Also always put it on portable/laptop there is no reed for max preformance! Portable/laptop does it all for u! IF i was you windows does a horrible job with fans! donwload speedswitch xp and do dynamic switching and mkae sure using the http://www.diefer.de/i8kfan/ utility that the fans are off during easy to moderate even photshop tasks, becuase to tell you the truth it really is unnessary if your computer is undervolted to have the fans come one during those tasks! Only if your computer oes beyond 75ish the fans shoudl come one and you can set it in that utility but make sure its on low as high it really isnt need because your under-volted!
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post #169 of 1202
4/15/05 at 4:13pm
How come when I set it to automatical management, the speed will be set at full speed even there is no program running..... actually the computer is idle
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post #170 of 1202
4/15/05 at 7:10pm
Just wanted to see what this fad is all about so I tried it out. Here are Max and Min VID's for my 600m, respectively: .988V, .700V. I'm seeing AT LEAST a 10*C degree drop on CPU temperature. THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR 600M GAMERS as the bios won't have to throttle the cpu to 600mhz as much when temps get high.

Bad news: The RMClock program. This thing just keeps on crashing - especially when I try to exit it and it doesn' t seem to run automatically on start up. I'm using the 1.5 version.
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post #171 of 1202
4/15/05 at 7:32pm
I'm thinking you probably tried this but maybe not, you did click the check mark by right clicking in the taskbar and selecting "run automatically at startup"?

Otherwise you could put it in your startup folder and do it that way. I'm using 1.4 btw, and haven't had any troubles so I haven't tried 1.5. Maybe you should look into the earlier version just in case?

Tellerve
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post #172 of 1202
4/15/05 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by Tellerve
Otherwise you could put it in your startup folder and do it that way. I'm using 1.4 btw, and haven't had any troubles so I haven't tried 1.5. Maybe you should look into the earlier version just in case?
Yes, seleted to run it on start up. I will try again. It doesn't seem to crash now as much and will try 1.4 as well.

When RMClock is running the CPU load is always shown 100% (prime95 not running.) Both the FanGUI and Window's Task manager shows it at 100%. Anyone else has this?
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post #173 of 1202
4/15/05 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by mich43L
When RMClock is running the CPU load is always shown 100% (prime95 not running.) Both the FanGUI and Window's Task manager shows it at 100%. Anyone else has this?
In the 1.4 version of RMClock there was a check box "use alternate cpu load dtermination method" that fixed this but it seem that in the new (1.5) version this checkbox was removed and the cpu load stays at 100%:

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Originally Posted by 1.5 RMClock Changes
Changes to this version include:

* Returned Balloon tooltips setting.
* Removed "Alternate CPU Load Determination" setting from APP UI.
* Added more configurational options for AMD K8.
* Added Transmeta LongRun Technology support.
* Added independent AC and Battery performance/power profiles.
* Added warning messages for settings that require application restart.
* Duplicated tray icon settings in the General tab.
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post #174 of 1202
4/15/05 at 8:40pm
huh, interesting. I was checking out my RightMark and it also gives odd cpu load indications. The OS load, however, seems to be what i8fangui and task manager are indicating for cpu loads. *shrugs* I dunno, I might try 1.5 and see what if anything that does. Although I really just wanted to reduce my voltage and it appears to have been doing that fine as I am getting cooler readings. I guess that too could be bogus but it appears to be correct.

Tellerve
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post #175 of 1202
4/15/05 at 10:08pm
This is bizzare, whenever my browser's on notebooksforums.com, RMClock reports my CPU is on full time full speed BUT fangui reports I'm only doing 798MHz.
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post #176 of 1202
4/15/05 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by Picard
This is bizzare, whenever my browser's on notebooksforums.com, RMClock reports my CPU is on full time full speed BUT fangui reports I'm only doing 798MHz.
I wonder what does window's reports (right click on my computer->properties).


It would be cool if niddledik or someone else could make a table of the minimum and maximum values to set in the program for different systems/cpu for everyone's reference
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post #177 of 1202
4/15/05 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by mich43L
I wonder what does window's reports (right click on my computer->properties).


It would be cool if niddledik or someone else could make a table of the minimum and maximum values to set in the program for different systems/cpu for everyone's reference
Windows and fangui make similar reports.
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post #178 of 1202
4/16/05 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by Picard
You have 512 of ram and you're still having low virtual memory?? What programs are you running?
Sorry, my problem was resolved. I was using BFK an Open Source Keylogger that I completely forgot about. It doesn't record very well, but I think that has something to do with my keyboard (diNovo). So I uninstalled that and now I don't have virtual memory problems.
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post #179 of 1202
4/16/05 at 3:03pm
I'am having a bit of trouble getting this thing to work.

On the newest version of RMclock when I cange my maximal VID under management options, my vcore will not decrease at all from 1.340 to w/e setting I place it at.

I'am using an ASUS M6Ne, without Run HLT checked off(i've tried it when it was enabled all it did was report my CPU load at 50 percent when it should be 100).

Any ideas on how to get this thing to work?
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post #180 of 1202
4/16/05 at 7:04pm
This is an awesome tutorial, worked great with my XPS 2.
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