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post #581 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Mr. K6
hmm... I think there needs to be a a few things updated for 1.6v, here goes:

First off, go to the general tab and select whatever functions you want on the bottom, but make sure that you select "restore CPU defaults on exit" in case something messes up, then you can just exit . Then, under the management tab, select use p-state transition. In the white box right below that there should be two (you'll probably have to create at least one). The first should be State No. 0, with an FID of 5x (or whatever your lowest is) and a voltage of 0.998v (or w/e it is stock on your lap top). This is the 800MHz power saving setting for the new P-Ms. The other should be State No. 1, with your max FID (mine is 15x) and your stock full voltage (mine is 1.356v).
Make sure that your A/C adaptor is plugged in, then go down to AC profile and select "maximal" from the drop down box. Get Prime 95 started and calculating (Large FFTs work best for a test). Also make sure that you select "Use OS-based load management" (same as run HLT etc.). From here go back to your P state transitions box and click on the max setting (the one with your highest multiplier) and modify the voltage going to it. I took it down 3 steps at a time until I got to about 1.15 and then I went down one at a time from there. Make sure you hit apply on the bottom of the management tab after each voltage change. You can also use CPU-z to vertify the voltage change. If you're pin-modded you may need to stop sooner because your CPU will require more juice. Keep lowering it until you get an error, then raise it and prime test. Anything higher than 8 hours means you're rock solid. I got an instant error at 1.054, but I run 1.1v just for the extra stability (10hrs+ stable).
Once that has been tested, go back to the management tab and under AC profile select "minimal". This will use your 800MHz CPU (or whatever your lowest multi is) setting. The odd case here is that now you will load at this speed, which will never happen in "real-world," the CPU is only at 800MHz when it's idle. In the same way drop your voltage down (remember to hit apply). I think almost every CPU can do .75v, and most can do .700v, but test and test again. After that let prime95 run for 3 hours or so, which is more than enough because the CPU will never be loaded at this state.
Ta-da, you're done. Just make sure you go to management and select "Automatic Management" under your AC Profile. Also under you General tab select "state minimized" and "run automatically at start up," but make sure you keep "restore defaults upon exit" just in case something ever glitches on your. Have fun and rock on
There's a quick one I wrote a bit back, hope it helps. If you have any other questions Tar_Heel_GUy or I can try answering them. Just on a side note though, I did switch to Centrino Hardware Control and I like it alot better: it's a cleaner interface and it also reads temperature
post #582 of 1202
yeah but it's only for ATI GPU's... all the nVidia folks get left out... :-(

i really like RMClock 'cause i know what a good guy Dmitri is... givin' out the source and lettin' ppl test things on their particular hardware...

but i do like the idea of havin' less apps obviously...
post #583 of 1202
oh and thanks for offerin' to help, but i was referrin' to other ppl sayin' they had trouble findin' particular stuff on the RMClock forum... :-)
post #584 of 1202
I have dell 9300 1.7 pin mod to 2.26

I can't seem to get anything stable under 1.308V

Is this to be expected with my mod?
post #585 of 1202
Its a definate posibility, although I have heard people with 2.0Ghz going much lower. May be because of the pinmod that this doesn't work well for you.
post #586 of 1202
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Originally Posted by strictly_biz
I have dell 9300 1.7 pin mod to 2.26

I can't seem to get anything stable under 1.308V

Is this to be expected with my mod?
well i know that PM's that haven't been modded have slightly different voltages... just normal variations... so i'd say it's safe to assume that the modded ones would too...
post #587 of 1202
So it seems i cant really back off the top end but its seems to be ok with lowering the minimal settings

but now i have a problem, when i shut down my laptop, i get an error popping up when windows says saving settings, something to do with nvsvc32.exe(nvidia) being unable to execute an instruction at location x0000000008, unable to read, did messing with voltage corrupt memory?

any ideas? this didnt happen until after i messed with voltage using centrino hardware control? and now i set everything back to default and it is still giving error...

edit: ok i fixed the issue with nvsvc32.exe by disabling the service, does anyone know if this could be related to playing with voltages or just a coincidence, thx
post #588 of 1202
i'd try the Norton knowledgebase... sorry but that's all i know to do... well maybe MS knowledgebase it's the best i know of... good luck
post #589 of 1202
i am using CHC for my 1.8 700m and my voltages are set to .796 @ 6x and 1.116 @ 18x. yet, sometimes under max load [18x] my voltage jumps up to 1.340 for a second or two. any ideas? btw, i have been using these voltages for the past few months and prime 95 for 36+ hours each at time of testing...
post #590 of 1202
There's no doubt in my mind that RMClock is a more sophisticated (and if that's what you need, better) program. However, I just need to undervolt and I like to see my temps and speed in my tray . I still overclock my nVidia card using the card's control panel, it's just that I use a different program for undervolting.

Strictly_biz, pin-modded processors are always going to need more voltage. You must remember that Intel specified 1.308 @ 1.7GHz, not 2.26. Just like in desktop overclocking, the further a processor runs past its specs, the more voltage it needs. Say that at 1.7GHz your processor only need 1.084, well because of your overclock you may need your full 1.308 to run stable. Such is the way it goes. However, you still maybe be able to undervolt your 800MHz setting a little, to keep it running really cool on the desktop.

Knowledge, I'm guessing you disabled the "nVidia driver helper service," good, it usually screws things up more than it helps anything, as you've found.
post #591 of 1202
Nevermind
post #592 of 1202
Undervolting messages are blue screens similar to the one you described, biz. Up your minimal voltage a little. You may also want to try exiting the program normally to see if it does the same thing.

RMClock seems better made, but it doesn't truly seem to affect anything at all for me.
post #593 of 1202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Knowledge, I'm guessing you disabled the "nVidia driver helper service," good, it usually screws things up more than it helps anything, as you've found.
sorry, i have no idea what you are talking about.
post #594 of 1202
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
Undervolting messages are blue screens similar to the one you described, biz. Up your minimal voltage a little. You may also want to try exiting the program normally to see if it does the same thing.

RMClock seems better made, but it doesn't truly seem to affect anything at all for me.
I had this problem when I set my 6x to 0.700v. Upping it fixed it.
post #595 of 1202
This guide (1.6 one) is very helpfull. I watched the temperature go from 50's to 39 when priming. Atm i'm priming maximum setting at 12x 0.972V. Raised up 2or3 from where prime gave and error.

(hopefully its stable :P)

On othernote would oc the gfx affect this mod at all (would the cpu draw more power?). Would it be worth oc the x300?

Good job for the people who helped write versions of the guide.
post #596 of 1202
Mr. K6, you rock dude!

I'll undervolt either today or over the weekend. Thanks!
post #597 of 1202
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlai
This guide (1.6 one) is very helpfull. I watched the temperature go from 50's to 39 when priming. Atm i'm priming maximum setting at 12x 0.972V. Raised up 2or3 from where prime gave and error.

(hopefully its stable :P)

On othernote would oc the gfx affect this mod at all (would the cpu draw more power?). Would it be worth oc the x300?

Good job for the people who helped write versions of the guide.
Overclocking the x300 should not affect the amount of power the cpu draws. Of course, you'll want to be careful not to go too far, as overclocking is more potentially damaging than undervolting.
post #598 of 1202
undervolted wife's Dell D600 P-M 1.6 400fsb, running smooth so far

0.700 min
0.988 max

altho it is 12C hotter at idle than my pin mod i9300 which is running at 2.26 with no undervolting and sits at 30C

0.988 min
1.340 max

whats that all about?
post #599 of 1202
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMolloy
Hey guys, just started trying this and it's awesome! I've got my max down to .924 and my minimum is .700 still. This is on a 700m 1.6. I've run the torture test for 6 hours, and it's working fine! I only have one question: I've been reading people's replies and some have said they use all the states between 0 and 9. So far all I've got is the maximum state and the minimum state. Should I add 7 more states in between? Also, what voltages/modifiers should I set the in-between states at? Thanks for any answers guys; it'd be much appreciated!
Actually I managed to get lower voltages for the default intermediate speed steps.
For example, 8.0x worked well at 0.700V, 9.0x at 0.716V, 11.0x at 0.780V, the rest was
just confirming the linear interpolation between the values at 11.0x and the max at 20.0x.

I was undervolting 2GHz Pentium M755 processor.

What is puzzling to me is that the voltage at 11.0x was much better than the voltage of the 1.1 GHz M733 ULV chip (1.00V at 11.0x, according to Intel specs). Are the ULV chips a myth?
post #600 of 1202
That would be funny if Intel's ULV chips are simply undervolted versions of regular Dothans. They would be kind of pointless in that case.
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