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post #21 of 38
3/29/05 at 8:19pm
There are two HD resoultions...
720p is 1280x720
1080p is 1920x1080

Daley
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post #22 of 38
3/29/05 at 8:31pm
And in Australia channel 7 even refer to 576p as a HD standard, but 1080i is where it's at for me.
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post #23 of 38
3/30/05 at 1:48am
Or you can get the DirecTV HDTV Tivo
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post #24 of 38
3/30/05 at 2:50am
Just wondering have any of you tried playing WM9 HD files (720p or 1080i) or any other HD format files on your XPS?

I'm guessing they should play fine however I'd just like to verify as I'm interested in using this machine as an output device to my HDTV via the DVI out.

Thanks.
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post #25 of 38
3/30/05 at 3:38am
ive heard a lot of tv tuners have a small amount of lag... I have an xbox and that is a major problem if i want to play it on my notebook screen. Does someone know if ne of these tuners have lag and if so are their others that dont? (doesnt necessarily have to be hdtv, as long as its has an svideo or better input i would be happy).
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post #26 of 38
3/30/05 at 3:42am
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Originally Posted by Horseflyofdoom
ive heard a lot of tv tuners have a small amount of lag... I have an xbox and that is a major problem if i want to play it on my notebook screen. Does someone know if ne of these tuners have lag and if so are their others that dont? (doesnt necessarily have to be hdtv, as long as its has an svideo or better input i would be happy).
I would like to know this too
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post #27 of 38
3/30/05 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by dlukesdoom
There are two HD resoultions...
720p is 1280x720
1080p is 1920x1080

Daley
Little typo there. (1080i not 1080p)
1080i is actually 540p.
Many prefer 720p to 540p (1080i).
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post #28 of 38
3/30/05 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by fishcakes
Just wondering have any of you tried playing WM9 HD files (720p or 1080i) or any other HD format files on your XPS?

I'm guessing they should play fine however I'd just like to verify as I'm interested in using this machine as an output device to my HDTV via the DVI out.

Thanks.
WMV-HD movie samples from MS website play perfect at both 720p and 1080i with my i9200, so they will also work great with XPS. Was impressed enough to actually buy the Coral Reef Adventure DVD/CD's.

edit to correct error. downloads are 720p and 1080p, not 1080i.
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post #29 of 38
3/30/05 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by Horseflyofdoom
ive heard a lot of tv tuners have a small amount of lag... I have an xbox and that is a major problem if i want to play it on my notebook screen. Does someone know if ne of these tuners have lag and if so are their others that dont? (doesnt necessarily have to be hdtv, as long as its has an svideo or better input i would be happy).
Very common problem.
The Sasem USB solves this issue by providing a "Game Mode" setting.
This basically turns off all the crap, so that you are left with a connection to your gaming console with no lag.
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post #30 of 38
3/30/05 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by RobsTV
WMV-HD movie samples from MS website play perfect at both 720p and 1080i with my i9200, so they will also work great with XPS. Was impressed enough to actually buy the Coral Reef Adventure DVD/CD's.

The MS site has 720p & 1080p samples. Computer CRT monitors, LCD, DLP are all progressive scan displays not interlaced. If it makes any difference.

smack
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post #31 of 38
3/30/05 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by RobsTV
Little typo there. (1080i not 1080p)
1080i is actually 540p.
Many prefer 720p to 540p (1080i).
I think your comparison is misleading: 1080i=540p.

I = Interlaced (each frame shows only half the horizontal lines)
P = Progressive Scan (each frame shows all the horizontal lines)

The only equality in that equation is the number of horizonal lines drawn per frame, not the screen resolution.

I have a 65" 1080i TV and also a 480p DVD player and the two formats are not even close in clarity. The 1080i wins hands down.
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post #32 of 38
3/30/05 at 12:41pm
Correct.
So with 1080i, you really are only truely seeing 540 lines.
With 720p, you are seeing 720 lines.
This means that 720p is higher resolution, as it shows more info.
Also note that while all HDTV's show 1080i and 480p, some can not handle or support 720p (or some will downsample it to 540p).
The thing is, people that own "true" 720p units can watch "true" 1080i any time.
The people with "true" 1080i units can not watch "true" 720p (540p limit).
Those with 720p units can see for themselves what is better. 1080i can not.

This is not to say the 1080i is bad. It IS great!! But 720p is a tad better.

There are plenty of websites with 720p/1080i info, with most already very outdated.
Here is one that is fairly current, and might help explain why 720p is better:
http://www.videoessentials.com/D_TheaterQA.php
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post #33 of 38
3/30/05 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by smack
The MS site has 720p & 1080p samples. Computer CRT monitors, LCD, DLP are all progressive scan displays not interlaced. If it makes any difference.

smack
Wow, missed the part that the demo's were 1080p. Thanks.
That also explains why the system requirements are higher.
720p requires better system then 1080i, but 1080p requires more power than 720p.

In any event, 1080p downloadable demos will work fine with XPS, since they work fine with i9200.
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post #34 of 38
3/30/05 at 5:31pm
Great to hear this RobsTV. Thanks very much. I have a few wm9 films and until recently haven't yet been able to watch them on my HDTV. Using the XPS as a potential HD player seems like a additional perk.
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post #35 of 38
3/30/05 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by RobsTV
Correct.
So with 1080i, you really are only truely seeing 540 lines.
How do you get 540 lines from a 1920 x 1200 image?

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Originally Posted by Horseflyofdoom
ive heard a lot of tv tuners have a small amount of lag... I have an xbox and that is a major problem if i want to play it on my notebook screen.
How do you plug a console into your laptop to use your laptop screen?
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post #36 of 38
3/30/05 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by DJ Fusion
How do you get 540 lines from a 1920 x 1200 image?



How do you plug a console into your laptop to use your laptop screen?
Trying to keep things simple, so basically:
HD that is using 1080i is interlaced, so each pass it draws a line, then skips a line, then draws a line, and repeats until screen is full. Next pass it draws using the lines it skipped the first pass. So each screen draw is actually only showing 540 lines of video and 540 lines of nothing. When you watch 1080i in full screen on your laptop, the laptop drops down the screen resolution to 540p if it is properly setup, or worse it will stretch the 540p to fill the screen. Because the laptop can support the higher resolutions, you are better off using 720p or 1080p (rare) instead of interlaced. Interlaced is made mostly for older low cost HDTV's. The link in post #32 may explain this better.

The Sasem USB adaptor has svideo and composite inputs that allow you to connect a console and use your laptop screen for display.
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post #37 of 38
4/3/05 at 5:39pm
Are their any TV tuners (HDTV, i'm assuming...) that allow for component signal input, as well? (or instead)

i.e. Xbox 480p/720p componet input to dell xps2 lappy.

Edit: Wheee. My XPS2 shipped last night! I should have it on tuesday!
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post #38 of 38
4/4/05 at 10:11pm
Are their any, even for a PC, perhaps in the form of an internal expansion card what would allow --component-- input? Not just s-video and composite.

USB or firewire would still be best, though, because then I could connect it to my new xps2 lappy.
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