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post #61 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:45am
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=3
"HyperMemory is also a feature of the X300 mobile GPU."

The GPU is part of every X300 chipset.

ATI sells this chipset to Dell.

Dell's X300 has Hypermemory.

The positive part about this is. If the Dell X300 has 128 MB dedicated ram, it tops that off with ram from the System ram. This is ok IMO.
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post #62 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by Yeoman
A graphics card that uses a PCI Express solution does not use shared system memory. Period.

The 6000D uses a 915PM chipset which does not support shared graphics memory. Its impossible. End of story.
LOL!! With these laughably incorrect statements you show that you should be ignored, because you just don't know what the friggin' hell you're talking about. Now please go away, sonny.

For the more intelligent here: Dell's own website shows that they are using the HyperMemoery card on this page.

I quote: "Up to 128MB of system memory may be allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size and other factors."
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post #63 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:50am
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Originally Posted by thecitywokguy
install rivatuner and see what it says....
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http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/
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post #64 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:50am
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Originally Posted by thecitywokguy
install rivatuner and see what it says....it shows the real memory size instead of the hyper memoried size..



http://hkepc.com/hwdb/x300hm-5.htm
If this is from a Dell 6000, then we are being sold a card with 32MB of RAM, and it steals up to a further +-96MB from system RAM. Oh - my - god.

Please run this on a 6000 asap.
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post #65 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:52am
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Originally Posted by MarkAM
With these laughably incorrect statements you show that you should be ignored...


Let's try to be friendly.

Yeoman. Try the rivatuner.
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post #66 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:53am
ggg...have you really tried? that pic is from a real x300 hm review
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post #67 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:53am
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Originally Posted by Yeoman
I don't know it all. Its common sense.

1- A graphics card that uses a PCI Express solution does not use shared system memory. Period.

2- The 6000D uses a 915PM chipset which does not support shared graphics memory. Its impossible. End of story.

Lets not let facts get in the way of conjecture
wait you say the 915PM chipset does not support shared graphics memory?? Then how does the intel 900 integrated graphics card that uses shared memory on this very board work?

Sheesh and you want to say it is common sense..... I think you need to go watch some more mr wizard.....
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post #68 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:54am
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Originally Posted by MarkAM
LOL!! With these laughably incorrect statements you show that you should be ignored, because you just don't know what the friggin' hell you're talking about. Now please go away, sonny.
Incompetent lemmings.. lol

Prove me wrong you clueless douchebag. Its all in your court now!

I'm through.. Believe what you want.
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post #69 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:55am
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Originally Posted by Ainvar
wait you say the 915PM chipset does not support shared graphics memory?? Then how does the intel 900 integrated graphics card that uses shared memory on this very board work?

Sheesh and you want to say it is common sense..... I think you need to go watch some more mr wizard.....
Because the shared memory solution uses the 915GM chipset, assclown.
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post #70 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:55am
Let's not pick on yeoman. This thread will be looked at by a lot of people. Let's keep the thread nice. Ok ? Please.
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post #71 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:57am
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Originally Posted by dlinkin
Somebody try the Rivatuner .
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post #72 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:59am
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Originally Posted by Ainvar
wait you say the 915PM chipset does not support shared graphics memory?? Then how does the intel 900 integrated graphics card that uses shared memory on this very board work?

Sheesh and you want to say it is common sense..... I think you need to go watch some more mr wizard.....
the Intergrated Graphic version i6000 use 915GM....

and using 915PM does not mean it can't share system memory anyway...Hyper Memory is a technology utilizing the PCI-Express bus.



edit: wrong pic
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post #73 of 218
3/29/05 at 1:59am
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Originally Posted by Yeoman
Incompetent lemmings.. lol
Prove me wrong you clueless douchebag. Its all in your court now!
I'm through.. Believe what you want.
Oh boy, your face is going to be so red when you realise you're wrong that you'll have to change your handle in this forum. So instead of "Yeoman", how about "Sloeman" (sloe = slow, geddit? .. nevermind).
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post #74 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:00am
dlinkin, I am imaging the HD right now to switch from this crappy WD harddrive Dell sent me to a Fujitsu they sent me. Let me finish imaging it and I will run rivatuner on my I6000d that has the x300 128bit card.

May not be till morning that I can do this since my drive is about 50gigs full and I am making the image over the network with high compression.

But I will do it so maybe it will help solve the mystery. I for one hope it does not have the shared memory but if it does the laptop will go back to Dell. If it does not then I will be a happy panda. But it looks like the information at hand right now is pointing more to the it uses the system ram in my eyes.
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post #75 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:04am
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Originally Posted by dlinkin
Somebody try the Rivatuner .
http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/
yes...somebody please..
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post #76 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:13am
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Originally Posted by MarkAM
Oh boy, your face is going to be so red when you realise you're wrong that you'll have to change your handle in this forum. So instead of "Yeoman", how about "Sloeman" (sloe = slow, geddit? .. nevermind).
If the 128mb x300 card does not have dedicated memory, I'll glady change my name.
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post #77 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:15am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Yeoman
If the 128mb x300 card does not have dedicated memory, I'll glady change my name.
Shifting goalposts! That's not the argument! The card may only have 32 or 64MB of dedicated memory, and is sold as 128MB. THAT'S the argument!
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post #78 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:26am
I tried it and it doesn't say anything about "64-bit RV370 with 32MB DDR memory".
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post #79 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:28am
Picard can you post a SS of it by any chance? I still have a bit to go on the disk image and would help this thread.
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post #80 of 218
3/29/05 at 2:31am
It would be interesting to know just what it does say.
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