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post #21 of 39
3/29/05 at 1:02pm
the company i work for makes laptops with backlit keyboards. but these are very much military laptops, and i doubt anybody here would want one. they're way too expensive for the casual user anyway, especially off-contract. but at least you can stand on it if you need a few extra inches of height, heh.
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post #22 of 39
3/29/05 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by Enderet
But are we talking about backlight or the light that I mentioned before that is on top of the screen and points downward illuminating the keyboard?
I guess you're right. Going to the IBM site shows that the T and X series laptops have a light that shines from above. I could have sworn they had a backlit keyboard feature on one of their laptops. The reason I remember it is because it was the buzz on the one of the apple discussion sites.

Anyway this is definitely a useless feature for me. Not something I would base a laptop purchase decision on in the least.
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post #23 of 39
3/29/05 at 2:26pm
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Hmm... I still don't get thing with lid. Is EVERY hi-end notebook avalible now has got "hibernate-on-lid-close" function as in PB? Then I only close lid and I don't have to push any buttons?
Oh, one more, additional question. Is there any avalible lappy with full-sized keyboard with separate keypad (as in normall, desktop PC keyboard). Of course thin and nice looking lappy, not "shrek" like Compal CL56...
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post #24 of 39
3/29/05 at 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by Promethe
Hmm... I still don't get thing with lid. Is EVERY hi-end notebook avalible now has got "hibernate-on-lid-close" function as in PB? Then I only close lid and I don't have to push any buttons?
You know.. I think that the laptop hibernate on close technology is more closely tied to the OS used than anything else. I've had colleagues complain about various Windows strains that couldn't deal with hibernation like that (I seem to think they were referring to Win2K). All the while I was very appreciative of the fact that my Powerbook with OSX, could hibernate like that very well. I will sometimes travel for several weeks without rebooting my Powerbook. Just close it when I'm done, and open it when I need to..

Does anyone do successful hibernation and wake from sleep with XP on a laptop? Can you provide details?
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post #25 of 39
3/29/05 at 10:30pm
I have my notebook set to hibernate when the lid closes and I have never had a problem. I have Win XP though.
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post #26 of 39
3/29/05 at 10:54pm
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Originally Posted by Promethe
I would like to buy a new lappy, but I'm still searching for PC notebook, which has got features typical for Apple, like:
  • shutting down on lit close;
  • keyboard backlight;
  • light and thin;
  • fast, with big hard drive and v. good graphics card;
  • amazing look;
I didn't wrote about newest Apple inventions - accelerometers in notebooks (you can use it to make your data on hard drive safer, or to play games in brand new style; look for new PowerBooks) and touchpad on which you can use gestures only adding one more toe on pad - becouse it isn't available on PCs yet (as I think). So, any ideas?
Personally, I think Powerbooks look like they were made stricty for women. Very "designer" like if you know what I mean. I don't think I'd like carrying a WHITE laptop around.
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post #27 of 39
3/29/05 at 11:08pm
If you're wanting something exactly like a Mac... why not get a Mac? Then you'll know you got what you wanted. Plus, you get to use OSX then.

By the way, what does this mean?... "I think Powerbooks look like they were made stricty for women. Very "designer" like if you know what I mean."

I'm confused. Only females are designers? A man can't design? Just an offhand gender-ignorant statement?
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post #28 of 39
3/30/05 at 12:21am
I use Windows 2000 Pro right now and when I close the lid I have set it to do absolutely nothing, but it was originally set to hibernate. It can be set to do anything I want (suspend, shut-down, hibernate, nothing).
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post #29 of 39
3/30/05 at 12:43am
Just to clarify: Macs do NOT hibernate when you close the lid; they go to sleep.

When a PC goes into hibernation it dumps the contents of the memory to the hard drive and actually shuts down. To restore from hibernation it has to boot up and reload the memory.

Sleep in a Mac is like standby on a PC but it's much more graceful, truth be told, since it's a crap shoot whether standby on a PC will work half the time.


And that W5N thing is ugly.
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post #30 of 39
3/30/05 at 12:50am
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Originally Posted by Kakaze
Just to clarify: Macs do NOT hibernate when you close the lid; they go to sleep.

When a PC goes into hibernation it dumps the contents of the memory to the hard drive and actually shuts down. To restore from hibernation it has to boot up and reload the memory.

Sleep in a Mac is like standby on a PC but it's much more graceful, truth be told, since it's a crap shoot whether standby on a PC will work half the time.


And that W5N thing is ugly.
There has not been a single time in which any of my notebooks have not come back from sleep after closing/opening a lid. So, I am unsure as to what you are talking about in the quote above.
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post #31 of 39
3/30/05 at 12:56am
My old pc laptop, a CL50, had tons of problems with automatic sleep mode. I realized this the first time when I pulled it out of my bag one day and it was steaming hot. I opened it up and found that my computer was still on and my battery was half-drained. After that was a few weeks of trial and error to get it to work. I eventually just had to manually put it to sleep everytime before I closed the lid. And I could NEVER just open it up and have it come on without having to power it on. Even then, if I held the power button for a second too long, I'd see the screen pop up but then everything would fade out and the computer would turn off because I had accidently shut it completely down while trying to just turn it back on.
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post #32 of 39
3/30/05 at 12:59am
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Originally Posted by BeckyWC
I have my notebook set to hibernate when the lid closes and I have never had a problem. I have Win XP though.
i turned that crap off in XP, when i close the lid it just turns off the LCD, so it doesn't go into stupid suspend or hibernate, i will tell windows myself if i want it to.
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post #33 of 39
3/30/05 at 1:31am
Based on what you want and what the others have said already, I think it would be best if you just went and bought yourself a powerbook.
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post #34 of 39
3/30/05 at 2:55am
Who cares about standby anyway. Just shut it down. A good system should be up and running in under a minute. Learn some patience, it's a virtue
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post #35 of 39
3/30/05 at 3:08am
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Originally Posted by epp_b
Who cares about standby anyway. Just shut it down. A good system should be up and running in under a minute. Learn some patience, it's a virtue
shutting down everytime decreases the life of your HDD substantially, (it thrashes your HDD everytime you load windows)

yeah my laptop boots in 40 seconds from hitting the power button to loading the windows desktop until there is NO HDD activity.

hitting a key on my keyboard and getting out of standby takes 5 seconds. booting up takes 8 times longer, when you need something off your lappy FAST you can get it fast. shutting down takes longer than going back into sleep. ive never had a problem with xp and sleep on my laptop.
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post #36 of 39
3/30/05 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by Enderet
There has not been a single time in which any of my notebooks have not come back from sleep after closing/opening a lid. So, I am unsure as to what you are talking about in the quote above.
What aren't you unsure about? Windows has never been good at going into standby. If you've never had problems then you've been lucky because standby has never worked the way it should on any of the windows computers I've used.
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post #37 of 39
3/30/05 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by Kakaze
What aren't you unsure about? Windows has never been good at going into standby. If you've never had problems then you've been lucky because standby has never worked the way it should on any of the windows computers I've used.
I would have agreed with you when it came to windows 95, 98, and me. But with windows xp I have mine set to go into sleep mode and then after a period of time to hibernation. I have never had a problem waking my notebook up from sleep or hibernation.
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post #38 of 39
3/30/05 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by Kakaze
What aren't you unsure about? Windows has never been good at going into standby. If you've never had problems then you've been lucky because standby has never worked the way it should on any of the windows computers I've used.
i always do my own install of windows, i set what services i need and disable the rest, i always close everything before i standby so it wakes up faster. maybe that has something to do with it? cuz i know sonys and toshibas actaully have their own standby software ontop of windows, maybe there is a conflict somewhere?
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post #39 of 39
5/6/05 at 4:50pm
I have a Medion Akoya (made by MSI as S260). I think it's a decent product for PC's. There are some issues I mentioned in a mini-review ( http://notebookforums.com/showthread...513#post868513 ) but when the lid closes XP defaults to suspend to RAM, you can also configure to only turn of screen, hibernate or shut down. There is also a snooze button activated with the FN key. However, unlike an iBook when you open the lid, you must first tap the power button to get back on. I dunno if this can be hacked to "just turn on" but it's actually ok with me...

One thing this laptop definatly has over the iBook is widescreen and the high contrast (if you like the shineyt screen).

The Medions battery life is only 3 hours the way I use it... I got about 4-5 on the iBook, but the iBook was only 700Mhz and had a very clicky loud HD. The Medion is MUCH quiter, tho the fan is on more.

Also there are no instructions on how to open it up to upgrade included or online?!

OC
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