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post #101 of 117
It pretty much is, unless you're using it in a dark room or have a dark background... but if you hard dark corners or edges, you can notice that at any time. The LG I had swapped, did have dark edges on the left and right and it really bothered me... so I requested a Samsung... and it seemed to be better in that aspect, however, the screen pinch and light leakage are much worse in this one. I don't really know which type of crappiness I prefer.
post #102 of 117
Hm...are screen upgradeable?
post #103 of 117
Not for free, but you can get it replaced if you find the one you're using to be "defective", ie. leaking light, dark spots, dead pixels, etc.
post #104 of 117
From all the posts I've read light leakage gets better with age. I know it has with mine.

The LG's take less color correction but people that like the Samsung say the grayscale is better on it and that they can get better color too. I find that kinda hard to believe cause the color of the Sam's I've had was way off.

My LG's have taken just a little correction, and recently even less.

I think this is a never ending debate. Too many variables... The variability of the screens themseleves, the subjective view of the observer, the screens changing as they age...

Mine's not perfect but I really enjoy it! Just find something you like/can live with and then put the probs outta your mind and ENJOY A TERRIFIC NOTEBOOK THAT'S FAST AS HELL!
post #105 of 117
This is my current Samsung LCD in it's wonderful glory:

Looking at it straight on:



Standing above it slightly:
post #106 of 117

Well...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonarchX
Is leakage noticeable during DVD playback and games? Or is just noticeable when everything pitch black?
A big part of me being pissed about the crappy screen/leakage is that I use programs such as Photoshop and Illustrator and such, and the uneven lighting causes annoying color/brightness shifts that most people wouldn't notice normally, not to mention the "lines" and screen door affect I have on mine makes it hard to get into the details. I really want this thing replaced. I can live with some more sparkle, so I think I will request the LG. -JB
post #107 of 117
I got a i9300 with a WXGA+.... does this come with samsung or LG?
post #108 of 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by cotolay
I got a i9300 with a WSXGA.... does this come with samsung or LG?
To me it seems to be random, regardless if it's an WXGA or WUXGA. Guess it depends on how lucky you are...
post #109 of 117
How do i know if its a Samsung Or a LG?

Do WXGA+ also have leakage problems? Couse mine does....
post #110 of 117
Yeah, the WXGA displays definetly has light leakage issues.. I'm on my 3rd so far.

As for identifying which screen you have, go to your Dell account and check out your order there. It should say SEC5887 (if my memory serves me right) where your display is listed if it's a Samsung. Or you can download and use Powerstrip.

Edit: I remembered it wrong If you login to your Dell account and click the menu called My System & Peripherals then choose your service tag it will bring up a detailed list of your computer's components. The 2nd row should say Liquid Crystal Display etc etc and then the manufacturer on the end.

The code for Samsung is till SEC5887 (or something similar) and that code is listed in Powerstrip. *phew*
post #111 of 117
Wich one is better the Samsung WXGA or the LG?

Thinking on getting that sharp LCD?
post #112 of 117
I've only tried the Samsung (so far) so I can't really say. But after hanging around this forum for a while I'd say it's a subjective thing. Some seems to like the Samssung's, some seems to like the LG's. Personally, I'd be quite happy with the Samsung if the light leakage was less visible. The colors etc are quite nice in my opinion.
post #113 of 117

Samsung Here

I have the Samsung Screen, the X7466, people please mentin which panel you hvae by its number so we can discern which panels are good and which ones are bad.

Now about my panel, I has alot of light leakage, a pattern similar to those pics I think Desptes posted, with what you call a "pinch" at the top of the screen. The screen has a bit of sheen to it, a transparent anti reflective sheen that is hardly appparent compared to theLG screens I have seen and used on the inspirons whic have a metallic/dirty sheen on them which is more noticeable.
My screen is very very very bright and is a WXGA+ ultrasharp (no it's not glossy silly wabbit). and the viewing angles on it are exceptional, I can walk around the entire room and make out whats on my screen rather sharply, ( no I cant read the text from across the room but I can see pictures and so forth very sharply. I can also move from left to right and tilt the screen back a good thirty degrees without suffering any picture quality.
Overall I am very happy with this screen, like I said its bright, compared to Lg's its brigther and viewing angles much better, some Lg's seemed a bit sharper but nothting I cannot adjust on my screen through settings and nvidia vibrance. At highest brightness setting my screen is a bit too bright, I usually view it two or three settings down from maximum brightness, soo much for all those people who say wxga isnt bright enough, I think this has nothing to do with WXGA at all, but everything to do with what LCD panel you get, soo many people attribute qualities to the resolution that have nothing to do with resolution at all!! ( yet another reason that when you are talking about your LCD, you need to be telling us what model number you got, not just whether it was LG or Samsung).
Compared to the LG's Ive seen I see no reason to return it for months of replacements. Ive noticed that some like the LG others Like the Samsung, why is this? Probably because these folks arent looking for problems with their screens soo much. My research shows that everyone who has my particular panel is very happy with it, so am I.
If you like your LG panel........great.......if you like your samsung...great........enjoy your screens. My analysis of both of them is that the LG can offer better contrast while the samsung has better viewing angles and screen brightness while the LG offers less light leakage though both have light leakage and the light leakage ON BOTH MODELS FADES IN TIME.

I have discovered that there is an aluminum adhesive strip at the base of these LCD panels that is most likelly a heat spreader of some sort and that this is the cause of the light leakage. A user reported using some type of thin copper film in place of this and his light leakage totally disappeared, I will try to find out more about this phenomenon.
Hence why some report more light leakage after their monitor has been on for ten minutes or soo.
Hopefully we can find a good modding to fix this problem since Dell isnt going to do it.

The moral here? It's not necessarily a bad screen folks its a thermal problem and thermal problems can be addressed.
post #114 of 117
As you can see from the typos in my posting, I am having more problems with my "ThAI" keyboard than any issues with the LCD panel
post #115 of 117
Post from another thread about this problem:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallman
The heat from the backlight is definitely what's causing the severe leakage on the bottom of the screens. I took the aluminum heat spreader off of a Samsung and used xtremely wide thin copper to spread the heat. Almost all of the leakage on the lower bottom of the screen disappeared, even with laptop on for hours. The screen was also cooler to the touch at the bottom.



Tallman, does this mean that you can fix this bottom leakage problem? If yes, you're the man! Kudos to you. Share us more details about your mod. Some pictures are welcome.
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post #116 of 117
Tallman's post sounds good.
Still, I HAVE to ask--aren't lots/most ppl saying that their leakage is going away, anyways?
<I'm not being picky; I would really like an answer...>
post #117 of 117
Ive ad my lappy for a week now thorndt, a week of fairly heavy usage, the light leakage is starting to diminish yes.
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