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T43 Impressions

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After swearing off IBM after the sale to Lenovo, I couldn't pass up a new T43 2 ghz. Sonoma laptop. The configuration was very similar to my previous T42, which I still have.

I've been using a Dell D610 for the last two months and find it an awesome laptop. It's been rock solid and very speedy. It's also a 2 ghz with very similar components.

The only thing the T43 has going for it is the following:

- Lighter and slimmer in almost all directions.
- Better battery life.
- The desktop fonts are larger and easier to see with my aging eyes. Both are XGA+ (1400 X 1050) and both are set to normal fontsize and 96 dpi, yet the IBM's icons are significantly larger. No, they're not set to the larger size.
- Scroll button - IBM has the scroll button and Dell does not. So little cost, yet so much funtionality.
- Placement of the LCD's for wireless, caps lock, etc. IBM's are at the bottomof the LCD... very easy to see. Dell's are on next to the power button and more difficult to see. I know, it's a little thing.

Here's what the Dell D610 has going for it:

- Boots and shuts down much, much faster. Being a type "A" personality, I want everything yesterday and waiting for laptop to boot is one of the many undesirable things in life... like waiting in line to eat at a restaurant, I avoid at all cost.
- The screen on the Dell stays remarkly dust and smudge free. I can't explain this, but I haven't had to clean the screen once yet and in the case of IBM, I have to clean at least every couple of weeks. There's something different here, but I can't put my finger on it ... no pun intended.
- Keyboard - Yes, I do believe that Dell's keyboard is perhaps a shade better than IBM's. I think the keytops are actually larger which makes it easier to hit the right key. I'm a touch typist so this is EXTREMELY important to me. IBM definitly has NO edge her in my opinion.
- Now this will sound a little strange, but here goes. My D610 seems to find workgroup computers much faster than my IBM does. I've had some IBM's that simply would NOT find any other computers in the workgroup. Very strange. My T42 would find them, it would just take it 30-60 seconds to display the list. The Dell is better than any laptop I've ever had. No more than 10-15 seconds max. I go to client sites quite a bit so this is another issue that is important for me.
- Port replicator - I have Dell's advanced port replicator and a Dell 20" LCD at the office. It works great - no problems. I've had issues with IBM's similarly setup and had to spend quite a bit of time resolving the problems I've encountered.
- Dell's keyboard does have a Windows key. This wouldn't make the list except someone pointed out all the features that you can perform with one of these keys and now I notice if it's missing.
- I've never had a laptop where I didn't encounter some kind of problem that had to be resolved through a tech support call or talking to other users. My D610 set a benchmark for all others to match.
- Heat - that's right you heard me. Dell used to have a problem with heat, but mine seems to be relatively cool. I noticed last night when I was setting up the T43 that it got much warmer than my T42 and the Dell. Perhaps it was from all the DVD useage, but I think it would have been uncomfortable if I was using it on my lap. As it was, I was trying to upgrade the hard drive and doing a restore to the original factor setup. An hour or more of continual DVD access.

Those are the initial impressions thus far. It's early so I may have more to say in a week or so.
post #2 of 13
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- Keyboard - Yes, I do believe that Dell's keyboard is perhaps a shade better than IBM's. I think the keytops are actually larger which makes it easier to hit the right key. I'm a touch typist so this is EXTREMELY important to me. IBM definitly has NO edge her in my opinion.
Strange...the universe is almost unanimous on the superiority of IBM's keyboards to any other laptop My own experience has borne it out as well - I can hit a max of about 135wpm on an Omnikey Ultra, ~120 on an IBM Model M, and ~114 on the T42. On my old HP notebook I'm about 90 tops. I played with a D610 today in fact, and found the keyboard to be typical-Dell feel, somewhere between the HP and the Powerbook. Feel is very subjective though, so what floats my boat probably doesn't do it for you, and vice versa.

Also, regarding bootup and shutdown, I recommend creating the rapid recovery CD set and then nuking the hard drive and starting with a fresh install of Windows. There really shouldn't be any difference in boot time between the two machines, the only thing doing it is preinstalled software.

Enjoy the t43, hope it lives up to your expectations!
post #3 of 13
T43
Tecra M3
D610

That's my shortlist. Sell me on if you have looked at all 3. Thanks.
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by ElGuano
Strange...the universe is almost unanimous on the superiority of IBM's keyboards to any other laptop My own experience has borne it out as well - I can hit a max of about 135wpm on an Omnikey Ultra, ~120 on an IBM Model M, and ~114 on the T42. On my old HP notebook I'm about 90 tops. I played with a D610 today in fact, and found the keyboard to be typical-Dell feel, somewhere between the HP and the Powerbook. Feel is very subjective though, so what floats my boat probably doesn't do it for you, and vice versa.

Also, regarding bootup and shutdown, I recommend creating the rapid recovery CD set and then nuking the hard drive and starting with a fresh install of Windows. There really shouldn't be any difference in boot time between the two machines, the only thing doing it is preinstalled software.

Enjoy the t43, hope it lives up to your expectations!
A little over a year ago I purchased a Dell M60 and really didn't care for the keyboard. The trackpoint was completely unusable. But the D610 has substantial improvements in the trackpoint and, in my opinion, the keyboard.

I also noticed the T43's fan running much longer than my T42. It was blowing very warm air out the vent on the left side after 30-40 minutes of use. I also notice the bottom getting significantly warmer than the T42 ever did. I'd have to say that the Dell 610 runs cooler than the T43.

I'm going to completely switch over to the T43 next week and see what it feels like after a week of consistent use. I also want to see if I can get 1600 X 1200 DVI pass through with the port replicator. I had to mod the ATI 9600 in the T42 go make this happen. The Dell does it without any problems at all.
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by jjfcpa
A little over a year ago I purchased a Dell M60 and really didn't care for the keyboard. The trackpoint was completely unusable. But the D610 has substantial improvements in the trackpoint and, in my opinion, the keyboard.

I also noticed the T43's fan running much longer than my T42. It was blowing very warm air out the vent on the left side after 30-40 minutes of use. I also notice the bottom getting significantly warmer than the T42 ever did. I'd have to say that the Dell 610 runs cooler than the T43.

I'm going to completely switch over to the T43 next week and see what it feels like after a week of consistent use. I also want to see if I can get 1600 X 1200 DVI pass through with the port replicator. I had to mod the ATI 9600 in the T42 go make this happen. The Dell does it without any problems at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if the T43 ran the fan more, especially if it has a faster CPU. My T42 fan runs nearly all the time (mostly in low-speed but it kicks up a notch at around 45 degrees C), which took getting used to since my old laptop (with a 1.4GHz P4-M) was completely silent under most conditions.

IBM's decision on 1280x1024 max res for DVI is confounding and frustrating. The easy modded catalyst solution lets DVI go to 1920x1200 even with the Radeon 7500, so I don't think you'll have any problems there.

Definitely give the T43 a try. My GF didn't like the T42 keyboard until she used it for a few days, then she couldn't go back to the old laptop. I didn't like the T43 keyboard nearly as much as my 42's, but IBM has different supplieer, and there really are IBM keyboards out there that are no better than Dell's. If you call, IBM will ship out a new keyboard for you free of charge. It sucks that it's a crapshoot, but one of IBM's keyboard suppliers, NMB, makes the visibly and tactiley superior board.
post #6 of 13
"IBM's decision on 1280x1024 max res for DVI"

Why would they do that?
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Hunterzyph
"IBM's decision on 1280x1024 max res for DVI"

Why would they do that?
Actually, they've corrected that and I found that when I hooked my T43 up to my port replicator that it properly configured it to 1600 X 1200 on my Dell 20" LCD. Thank goodness they at least fixed that.

Except for the fact that it doesn't seem as fast as the Dell, all other things seem to be pretty equal. Seems to run pretty cool most of the time and the keyboard doesn't cause me as many misstypes as the Dell's does. (I knew it didn't have anything to do with age... chuckle)

I'm going to use it for a week or two and then switch back to the Dell and see what my impressions are.

It certainly takes a while to boot up, but I'm sure that has to do with IBM's software, not the laptop itself. My son uses the fingerprint reader but I opted to skip it. How do you use it when you're docked and want to start up your laptop with the lid closed?

That's it for now... more later.
post #8 of 13
can you comment on battery run between T42 and D610?
Also, which runs quieter?
Did your keyboard label on T42 started dissappearing after couple months?
Do you have that same noise problem when hooking up a headphone in D610? many I mean many people seem to have this problem on D610.

I am torn between D610 and T42.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by danielp74
can you comment on battery run between T42 and D610?
Also, which runs quieter?
Did your keyboard label on T42 started dissappearing after couple months?
Do you have that same noise problem when hooking up a headphone in D610? many I mean many people seem to have this problem on D610.

I am torn between D610 and T42.
Danielp74

The T42 will definitely last longer than the D610 on battery power. You also have the option of a 9 cell battery on the T42 which will last about six hours.

Quieter? I don't think there is any difference. They are both very quiet. Can't hear the fan on either one.

Heat? About the same. The T42 was cooler than the T43 and D610, but not by a great deal. Heat is not an issue with any of them.

Keyboard labels - Never had a problem with these wearing off on a Thinkpad.

I checked for the headphone noise that some have commented about and mine does not do this.

I have been using the T43 for the last week just to compare to the D610 and I think the Dell has a superior LCD. It is much brighter to my eyes and easier to view. They both have SXGA+ (1400 X 1050) resolutions.

The T43 is NOT noticeably different than the T42 except for the fingerprint reader and they seem to have improved the installed IBM software, such as IBM Access Connections (used to create profiles for wired and wireless networks).

If money is an issue, get the best deal you can and you'll be happy. If money is not an issue, I'd be tempted to go with the Thinkpad, but the Dell offers more flexibility on configurations. With IBM, it's kind of like buying what you can find. There is also much wider support from the public with Dell than IBM. Dell has a community forum as well as this forum that you can ask questions.

Hope this helps with your decision.

One more thing... the Dell is configured identically to my Thinkpad and it runs noticeably faster in everyday processing. I haven't run any benchmarks... I can just tell.
post #10 of 13
Have you tried wiping the IBM clean, as well as the Dell and then using both. They should be the same if their CPU is the same, and have the same amount of ram...

I am guessing IBM has some extra software bogging it down.
post #11 of 13
jjfcpa: is the LCD on your T43 a FlexView or the standard SXGA? could you tell me the machine type you're using? (eg 2687xxxx). I just ordered the T43 with the FlexView but after your comment that the LCD on the Dell was superior I'm thinking of going with the D610.
post #12 of 13
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I have a 2668. It's a 14.1" LCD, and to tell you the truth, I'm not sure if it's flexview or not. I'm guessing it is because if I put it side by side with a T42 15" with a flexview, I can't really tell the difference - straight on or from an angle.

I was using the D610 last night and it really is a brighter screen. In addition, it appears that the Dell uses a smaller font than the Thinkpad, because it seems like you have more real estate; although they both have the same resolution.
post #13 of 13
that's interesting... supposedly IBM only makes the FlexView on the 15" model which makes me wonder whether your 15" T42 is a FlexView. what is the machine type and model # on your T42? thanks!
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