Looking at the GamePC review, I'm seeing a difference of 1-2 frames in most games between the Dothan 2.0 GHz and the Athlon 64 3500+ (keep in mind that the NT-34 is probably a 3400+ and has a TDP of 25w and that the NL-37 is probably a 3700+ with a TDP of 35w.)
Now, looking at the TechReport one?
The Pentium M 2.0 GHz loses to the 3200+
in the Doom 3 test, and not by a particularly small margin. Same goes for the Far Cry test, with the margin being even more embarassingly in the A64's favour. Ditto for Unreal Tournament 2004, although the FRAPs results show that the 3200+ loses to the Pentium M by...0.5 FPS when it comes to the lowest framerate measured. Big loss (35.0 VS 34.5.) It did win in the Software Renderer test (UT2004), however, beating out even the FX-55.
The Pentium M at 2.0 GHz takes the bottom feeder score in 3DMark2005. In every category, though sometimes the margin isn't very large, I'll admit.
In WorldBench Overall, we see the 2.0 GHz Pentium M tie the 3200+, which seems to be more in its category. Clock by clock performance is nice, but then again, the Athlon 64s do
get a boost in nearly every application on the planet in 64-bit mode, ranging from negligible to giant gains. Then again, this test is pre-Sonoma, which means that the Dothan isn't quite played out yet.
LAME encoding is the first big win for the Pentium M, with the 2.0 GHz Pentium M outperforming even the 4000+. Almost a full ten seconds faster than the 3200+, and five seconds faster than the 3500+ (which is, theoretically, a little faster than the 3400+ highest 25w Turion 64 model.) Of course, all of the times are under a minute, though that means that with more files encoded, the performance difference would be more pronounced.
But, then again, it pulls up dead last in MusicMatch Jukebox. Ouch. It's accompanied by the 3200+, which just barely squeaks ahead. Dead last again in XMPEG DivX encoding, and this time losing to the 3200+ by an appreciable margin.
It then beats the 3200+ in Windows Media Encoder by eight seconds (434 VS 442.) The 3500+ then, in turn, defeats it by twelve seconds. The Pentium M then goes on to beat even the 3500+ by eight seconds in Adobe Premiere (414 VS 422.)
Its winning streak is cut short, however, by being absolutely shut down
in the Roxio test. Not even a competition there, with the overclocked PM losing out to the 3200+.
In Photoshop, it starts to earn back lost ground, beating the 3200+ by eight points and losing to the 3500+ by nine (340 VS 349 VS 357.)
The Pentium M then proceeds to simply embarass itself in the ACDSee test, pulling up dead last by a huge margin.
It makes a recovery in the picCOLOR benchmark, with an overall score that squeaks past the 3200+, though it loses to the 3500+ by a far larger margin. If you're interested in individual score comparisons, look at the article yourself, as it would take too long for my lazy mind and carpal tunnel afflicted fingers.
The MS office test puts the 3200+ barely in front of the Pentium M. It ties with the 3500+ in the Mozilla 1.4 test. The Pentium M performs almost exactly between the 3200+ (which lost to it) and the 3500+ (which beat it) in the Mozilla+Windows Media Encoder test.
The Pentium M stumbles in the Sphinx speech recognition test, with even the overclocked version losing to the 3200+ by a fairly significant margin. Amusingly enough, even for the AMD processors, the Intel compiler gets better results, with only Pentium 4 Extreme Editions not profiting from it. Whoops?
It makes up for that, though, by beating the 3800+ (by a small margin) in the Winzip test.
It loses in the Nero test, but the Athlon 64s don't do much better, with, bizarrely, the 3200+ being the leader of the A64/PM pack.
It faces a bigger loss in the Cinema 4D renderer test.
It comes back, though, by performing near the 3500+'s level on the Cinema 4D shader test.
It then drops behind the 3200+ in the OpenGL Hardware Shading test and drops farther behind in the OpenGL Software Shading test, where it takes last place with the 3200+ nowhere in sight.
In the DirectX test of 3Ds Max, the Pentium M loses to the 3200+, and in the OpenGL version, it wins, though by a smaller margin.
In the POV Ray test, it loses, again, to the 3200+.
The power consumption test is pointless, because the Turion's chief difference IS power consumption.
Though the link to both tests were provided earlier in this topic, the Tech Report one:http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1...f/index.x?pg=5
Feel free to verify the results for yourself, and to check for any mistakes I may have made/spin I put on it. I linked to the first page with benchmarks, by the way, rather than the first page in the article.
What I'm seeing is that, in select applications, the Pentium M performs well above a clock-for-clock level when compared to a 512 KB L2 cache A64 at the same clock frequency (I assumed that it was a Socket 939 3200+, by the way.) For most applications, though, the Pentium M performs around the same level, or loses. I'll note that the Pentium M loses significantly more often than the A64 does, by the way.
Are they both excellent processors? Well, yeah. Is the Pentium M noticeably faster? Not by any stretch of the imagination, unless you use a very
specific list of applications, and we're not even looking at the 64-bit advantage here. I used this old benchmark because I couldn't find a more recent one (with the 2.13 GHz Pentium M or a 533 MHz FSB Pentium M CPU that wasn't overclocked.) If you'd like, I could also go through such a benchmark, though I would be made a sad panda by the amount of data crawling involved.
What makes the choice for me? Price, primarily. If I can pick up a 3400+ for about the price of a 2.0 GHz Dothan, judging by those results, I'll probably beat it in nearly every application, sometimes by very respectable margins. Even with a 3200+ (which will probably be cheaper,) I'd hardly be looking at huge performance losses when compared to the Pentium M.
I think that too many people are looking at the 2.4 GHz Pentium M results and assuming that they're indicative of anything. They aren't. They were just put in to try and get a feel for the future of a Pentium M-based desktop processor. They have very little relevance in a discussion of laptops.
Hopefully wearing an effective Fire camo suit,