5680 Pixel Issues - Page 2

Cleaning the LCD Screen

erm, wrong button. ignore:P

Oh but they do, do you know how each of the die parts are made? they do not make each and every one of different speed / type, but what they do is make the best of them and when some has DEAD / WEAK parts in them they are then droped in speed / grade / labled with having erratas(aka BUGS). so intel makes all 3.2 chips for now ones that don't pass the test become 3.0s ones that don't pass that test becomes 2.8s. same with GPU ones that don't pass the best test becomes the non pro / ultra, 40g HardDrives let's say it uses 2 20g platers now if one of that plater has 3g bad sectors it can't be used and when you have 2 with 3g bad sectors they are used for 30g HDDs.

now it would be nice if they can just cut a 15" bad pixel LCD into a 14" or a 12" but who would buy them? and u still have to throw out the 3".

love my dell 8200 with uxga, its nice no bad pixels

Valid comments, but as I have said elsewhere, this is all part of a story that has been spun for the last few years, and I think it is starting to wear a bit thin. Silicon technology is progressing at a fantastic rate, so I think it ought to be possible to get incremental improvements year by year such that eventually, bad pixels are to all intents and purposes disposed of.

Instead, I don't see that much has changed since I bought my last laptop three years ago. Some laptop OEMs are stating defective pixel limits of 15! I mean, can you imagine having 15 hot pixels on your screen. This is the main reason I selected Sager/PCTorque, and not the other company.

I think the main reason the dead-pixel issue still exists is because consumers accept them, and therefore it doesn't pay manufacturers to invest in getting rid of them.

Anyway, I am happy as I just got my 5680 and I can't see any problems, so thanks Clevo, Sager and PCTorque! The best thing that consumers can do is to buy from companies like Sager that have good dead-pixel policies, and apply pressure to improve them. Since I spent $3000, I would happily pay another $50 or $100 to guarantee zero defects.

I don't see having dead pixels as being that big of an issue. I would rather have 5 dead pixels than 1 hot/warm pixel. Hot pixels are unacceptable IMO.

Try these to unstick your pixels.

http://www.geocities.com/martel73/FlashingStuff.html
http://www.geocities.com/martel73/FlashingStuff2.html

Please don't look at this if you have any medical conditions triggered by flashing lights/colors. :-)

Heh, I was sitting in my Flash class reading these message boards and saw you guys wanted someone to make you something in flash. I figured I might as well help you all out. Who knows, when I get my laptop I might want/need this.

Thanks for the flash pages, I tryed both of them, I recieved my 5680 today and have two hot pixels, one red and one blue in the lower left portion of the screen. I am still debating what to do about it.

I dunno about these dead pixels......

I bought a 17 inch LCD from viewsonic, it had 2 dead pixels near the edge. I brought the d*amn thing back. Mgr did not want to take it back at as he had also indicated it was acceptable. My view is this. I bought a NEW product and I expect it to be NEW and perfect.
The analogy that an LCD has x number of pixels......yada yada ......so what?
My big screen TV has a jillion transistors and I have all high end Sony THX ........it all worked perfect. Thats why I buy on the credit card. Yeah you may pay a bit extra but its a piece of mind I cannot live without.
I paid the shipping back, he did not want to take it back, I refused to pay a restock charge in order to get a new one. I informed the mgr if I did not recieve an email by end of business that I would either get a new one shipped back WITHOUT a restock charge ( as the new one in my view is defective and that was beyond my control )..... I would simply do a charge back which was within my legal right to do and buy another one elsewhere the following day. I did recieve an email that evening that they reconsidered and go a shipping number from UPS. I recieved a new monitor 4 days later and it was new and perfect.

I do not feel one bit wrong in what I did. I would do it again in a heartbeat. To me thats no different than buying a brand new vehicle and the dealer says not to worry about that little bitty rock chip in the windshield.........its not cracked, poses no safety hazard and is just a very minor annoyance.....Bull****...That is just not acceptable.

If I spent $3500 on a laptop, it better doggone well be 100 percent of whats advertised and nothing less.......
Well thats just my 2c worth.
I feel better now.
Now I'll get off my soapbox.

No dead pixels on my 15" UXGA! WooT!!!! All that praying paid off...(Either that or the $50 I gave to Adam...)

Re: I dunno about these dead pixels......

good goin! We need more peeps like you, who dont accept faulty crap....

Re: I dunno about these dead pixels......

Good for you, but I have 2 bright green dead pixels right next to each other and it pisses me off severely. It makes it impossible to do anything with a dark screen as all you can see are the bright green pixels as they stand out so badly, but as this other replacement scheme wasnt in place when I bought my laptop I am stuck with it. It's annoying, it pisses me off, and I shouldn't have to live with it. But at the time it was 5 or more pixels and a few other criteria, which my problem didn't fit, so I am stuck with it.

Frankly its enough to put me off buying a TFT monitor or another laptop because frankly it's not something I can put up with or believe that I should have to put up with, especially on equiptment of this price.

NS

Did those 2 dead pixels develop over time or where they there at the very beginning?

If it was within the 30 days of when you purchased, you could have returned the whole thing and save you all the pain and suffering now. (even if it is ouside the #)

Unless I'm way off here...

They were there from the start, but I was told basically that it needs to be 5 or more dead pixels for it to warrent a return.

I still have the e-mails I sent to the company I bought it off, and after drawing and example of it, they just didn't return a reply (and I belive they basically dragged it out over the 30 days anyway) but still (I sent the email(s) on the 16th of November Last year.

NS

Care to PM me about where you bought your laptop??

The place was Cross Bracing Computers & Construction, they normally sell on eBay but they have website too I believe.

NS

I have a CRT that has a stuck pixel. I don't know what's up with that.

Tried another one

I agree with you io_burn. It should be in perfect condition, no excuses. I bought a 5680 and it came with one red hot pixel right out of the (#) zone. I tried to look passed it for a couple of days and couldn't. So I ordered another one and will return the first one within the 30 days. I got the second one yesterday. It had 3 bad pixels! However, two of them went away by me pressing on the display. All of them where black and in the extreme corners, so not nearly as bad as my first one. I think I am going to live with this one because I don't want to keep paying shipping to keep trying on getting a perfect display.

So I unpacked and set up my new 5680 upon its arrival. I installed the drivers that came on the CD. Everything was perfect...no dead or stuck pixels.

This morning I downloaded and installed the updated graphics driver off of the Sager website. To my dismay, upon rebooting I noticed that I have one stuck pixel, about an inch above the start menu. The interesting thing is I ONLY see it in Windows. If I open up a game or something it disappears completely. And, like I said, it wasnt there with the old drivers. Definetly not something worth complaining too much about...but I figured a post here might be worthwhile.

Any suggestions on how to fix this without reverting to the old drivers? I think it is kinda of interesting that a stuck pixel would manifest itself in a driver update...but who knows?

Like I said, it is a minor annoyance, but I would like to fix it if possible. No annoyances are better than minor annoyances anyday!

So far this thing rocks!

I believe my bright blue stuck pixel only appears on a background darker than itself. I can't see it on a white background, or even a gray Windows color! And, I don't think that it's just that I can't see it, I think it actually disappears when the color is lighter.... maybe this pixel just can take darker shades, but it can take lighter ones, and this blue color is just as dark as it can get.....? Anybody have any suggestions to fix it? I've tried massaging it and flashing it with colors.......