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post #21 of 26
4/8/05 at 3:20pm
I'm sure you will be well happy with it
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post #22 of 26
4/8/05 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by katorga
Thats it? That is a LOT of money, power consumption, noise and heat, to hit that number.

My little laptop provides totally acceptable minimum fps, but does so at a lower cost than most SLI gaming rigs, makes about as much noise as a single GPU fan, and using a 70w PSU.

Personally, I don't use my desktop for gaming at all any more. In the past I had six PC's (350w-500w psu's with 40 total cooling fans!). I used PC's running linux for everything. Today I have one desktop. I have replaced server functions with cheap, quiet, low power appliances for firewalls, network attached storage, proxy server, pvr and vpn gateways. Three laptops perform the interactive computing, and the remaining desktop runs VMware sessions for virtual machine replacements of physical servers. Its amazing how quiet, cool, and uncluttered my office is now.

And I can't tell any difference in my gaming, its just as good as it was before.
A lot of money on 6800 GT SLI? Yes, for normal users but not for hardcore 3D gamers. The whole desktop system is much cheaper than XPS2 or any extream gaming laptop with double performance.

For gaming experience, it's a huge difference between playing with 10000 3Dmark05 card or 3000 3Dmark05 card on MMORPG such as EQ2. Since you are not hardcore player, of course you don't need to buy SLI card. You can satisfy with minimum fps, good, but not everyone.

Besides, don't classify desktop to be noisy, power consuming monster. It depends on your purpose of the desktop. For extram gaming machine, no matter it is desktop or laptop, it is power consuming monster.

On the contrast, desktop can be much quiet than laptop with high performance. The main source of noise comes from fans on both desktop and laptop. However, on desktop, no body forced you to cool down your cpu and video chips by fans. You have difference choices. You can use water!
It's so quiet and you can overclock your chips to a totally different level.
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post #23 of 26
4/8/05 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by katorga
Grats on the Dell. Its a beast of a laptop and fully capable of replacing the almost any desktop except for the most extreme, expensive enthusiast rigs.
Actually You can assemble a desktop with half price of 9300 or less with better performance. 17 inch monitor without light leakage as 9300 sold for 250 or less. 100 dollars or less for 512 MBx2, AMD 64 3000+ for 146. 6800 GT 256 MB GDDR3 (it's only GDRR on dell 9300) is around 350, other devices you can buy for less than 200-300 totally for sure. The total price will be around 900-1000 and the performance is better than 9300. If you want to spend more, you can build a monster computer (prices come from newegg).

What's the price for dell 9300 with 35% coupon for P-M 2GH, 1GB memory, 60 HD, cd burner (not even dvd burner)? it's still around 1800-2000 dollars.

By the way, I didn't against anyone who wana play games on laptop. However, it is not truth that Dell 9300 can almost replace any desktop except the most extream, expensive enthusiast rigs. Clearly, it is not.
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post #24 of 26
4/9/05 at 2:47am
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I agree with all things said above, however, one thing is important to know and that is that I have a pretty fast desktop for my not-on-the-road gaming (AMD 3500+ | 1gig DDR400 ram | 200gb SATA + 120gb SATA | NEC DVD writer | 6800GT 256mb | Audigy2 | 5.1 surround | Sony 17" Xblack TFT). I bought the laptop because I want to use it for gaming when I'm visiting family for a few days, to take my photographic tools (I photograph for a hobby, see http://www.pbase.com/lapino) with me and for visiting LANs. I think the Dell 9300 fits right in then.
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post #25 of 26
4/9/05 at 2:32pm
The FPS thing works oddly, if you were runing 45 fps average and never droped below say 30 fps most people would consider that better than 60 fps average and dips down to 15 fps, What you realy need to look at is the min FPS if that is droping much below about 25 you are going to get herky jerky spots even if you average 100 FPS.
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post #26 of 26
4/9/05 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Rastlin
The FPS thing works oddly, if you were runing 45 fps average and never droped below say 30 fps most people would consider that better than 60 fps average and dips down to 15 fps, What you realy need to look at is the min FPS if that is droping much below about 25 you are going to get herky jerky spots even if you average 100 FPS.
The ideal situation is to be able to maintain a consistent 60fps as that's pretty close to the limit of what the eye can detect. Anything less can be noticed, anything more is rarely perceivable. A few people claim to be able to detect differences up to 72fps. Anyone who says 100fps looks different than 72fps is either lying to make their system seem better than the next guys or forcing themselves to halucinate in order to justify dumping a lot of case on an expensive video card.
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