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post #61 of 135
4/5/05 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by p2g
Olli
i am befudled by how your 3dmark score on a non overclcoked 6600 beat ours and how you got way more battery life. I went back and checked the battery life after reading your post. Yes you can get upwards of 4 hous on it but on the lowest possible setting. Surely not running all the apps you had. I dont think they are selling different stuff in UK but i just dont understand how 2 people get 2 completely different scores on almost identical laptops. Hope someone in the us can do a 5th benchmark. We ran it multiple loops. Word of advise. Do not use cool bits on this. I didnt try but i ve had bad experience with coolbits many times. The later edition of riva tuner works great. The only thing i found extremely weird is that the closer you get to the max overclock limit the lower your score goes. Found the best combination to be 290/575 but you may try just a bit higher on the core. I wouldnt trust factory published scores and timings. They lie...simply put.

Hey, I did take the brightness down to 60%, I took off the ambient light assist. I will do another battery test again to be even more constructive. But I might be reading something wrong.
As for the 3d mark scores put it on super performance, get better 3dmark scores. So coolbits is not good? Seems to be okay for me but I'll try the riva tuner
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post #62 of 135
4/5/05 at 2:21pm
Something to think about....

Toshiba Tecra S2 w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB...

Aquamark: 36,584
3DMark05: 1548
3DMark03: 5134
3DMark01: 13,984

Asus Z71V w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (Geared2Play.com numbers)

3dMark 2003 = 4436
3dMark 2005 = 1728

Benchmark & Figures OVERCLOCKED:
3dMark 2003 (290/573) = 5338
3dMark 2005 (290/573) = 2140

3dMark 2003 (275/563) = 5120
3dMark 2005 (275/563) = 2018

Asus Z71V w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (olli3 numbers)

Anyway I just done a test with 3dmark03. A few programs running in background and using stock drivers.

250/400 (Default)=4431. Laptop warmth: low not much heat
300/500 =4998. Laptop warmth: low, very slight touch pad warmth
300/600 =5286. Laptop warmth: Low again, slight touch pad warmth
300/700 =5510. Laptop warmth: low, again very slight touch pad warmth. Only the back got warm.

nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (Clicky To Source)

3DMark03 => 5076
3DMark05 => 1930

Toshiba Satellite M40 w/nVidia GO Gefore 6600 128MB

3D Mark 2005 => 2052

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=73668

http://img209.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img2...ardinfo1hv.jpg
http://img209.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img2...nckmark0iq.jpg


To Compared to ATI X700


Acer Travelmare 8104 w/ATI X700 128MB
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...618#post661618

3D Mark 2005 => 2269


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post #63 of 135
4/5/05 at 2:35pm

mistake?

Will the graphics card be able to be replaced?
Will differences between x700 and 6600 be noticeable in game?

Also, was this a mistake to get z71v, should I change my order and get Acer 8104 (Is it even worth the extra $450 for the acer)?
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post #64 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by cward0625
Will the graphics card be able to be replaced?
Will differences between x700 and 6600 be noticeable in game?

Also, was this a mistake to get z71v, should I change my order and get Acer 8104 (Is it even worth the extra $450 for the acer)?
I doubt it is any noticable differences in game. Remember benchmark is only a number game. I over clocked my AMD up and down, I don't notice any differences as well. LoL!
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post #65 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
Something to think about....

Toshiba Tecra S2 w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB...

Aquamark: 36,584
3DMark05: 1548
3DMark03: 5134
3DMark01: 13,984

Asus Z71V w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (Geared2Play.com numbers)

3dMark 2003 = 4436
3dMark 2005 = 1728
Z71V Benchmark & Figures OVERCLOCKED:
z71v 3dMark 2003 (290/573) = 5338
z71v 3dMark 2005 (290/573) = 2140
z71v 3dMark 2003 (275/563) = 5120
z71v 3dMark 2005 (275/563) = 2018

Asus Z71V w/nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (olli3 numbers)

Anyway I just done a test with 3dmark03. A few programs running in background and using stock drivers.

250/400 (Default)=4431. Laptop warmth: low not much heat
300/500 =4998. Laptop warmth: low, very slight touch pad warmth
300/600 =5286. Laptop warmth: Low again, slight touch pad warmth
300/700 =5510. Laptop warmth: low, again very slight touch pad warmth. Only the back got warm.

nVidia Go Geforce 6600 128MB (Clicky To Source)

3DMark03 => 5076
3DMark05 => 1930

Are these few number differences gonna make THAT much of a huge performance difference. I am just learning about notebooks and it seems all these benchmark tests are sort off like dynos(horsepower/torque in a car) and there are many different types of dynos and you could have EXACTLY the same setup but come up with different numbers.

Overclocking the GPU on the 6600 seems like it bumped it up pretty good (275/563) and as long as its safe I may consider it after I get mine and am not happy with the performance.

Just my two cents.
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post #66 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by cward0625
Will the graphics card be able to be replaced?
Will differences between x700 and 6600 be noticeable in game?

Also, was this a mistake to get z71v, should I change my order and get Acer 8104 (Is it even worth the extra $450 for the acer)?
I just ordered a Z71V and I think I made the right choice. I looked at all the comparable notebooks and the Asus stuck out for me.

Can you upgrade the gpu to say the ultra thats in the XPS 2?

Sorry to hijack if I did
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post #67 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:36pm
Well, my 2 cents...

I have an AMD-XP 3000+ on one of my desktop. Due to old memory using PC2700, I am limited to 333Mhz bus (aka 166 external bus speed).

I over clocked between 166 to approx 175 bus speed. On Sandrasoft, I see a good 5% - 10% improvement in speed with my O/C.

In usage, no differences whatsoever. Even playing EQ2, video encoding, MP3 extract, etc. Little to no differences noticable.
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post #68 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
Well, my 2 cents...

I have an AMD-XP 3000+ on one of my desktop. Due to old memory using PC2700, I am limited to 333Mhz bus (aka 166 external bus speed).

I over clocked between 166 to approx 175 bus speed. On Sandrasoft, I see a good 5% - 10% improvement in speed with my O/C.

In usage, no differences whatsoever. Even playing EQ2, video encoding, MP3 extract, etc. Little to no differences noticable.
So, in other words it like bragging rights? You can't, with the human eye, detect the subtle differences but according to the scores there IS an increase in performance. I'm up for that!!!!
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post #69 of 135
4/5/05 at 3:56pm
Pretty much....

For me bragging rights rocks! LoL!
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post #70 of 135
4/5/05 at 4:09pm
Good, so now everybody can stop worrying (including me) and enjoy their spanking new notebook.

I said spanking!
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post #71 of 135
4/5/05 at 4:17pm
Thread Starter 
I love my laptop, its very quiet and bloody cool. Never gets too hot as the issues with the Acer 8100's touch pads getting warm.
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post #72 of 135
4/5/05 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
Pretty much....

For me bragging rights rocks! LoL!

Me too man.

Hey thanks for all the resources you posted btw about this notebook it made my research a h3ll of alot easier.

you get a
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post #73 of 135
4/5/05 at 5:24pm
Bragging rights, huh? In that case, I won't worry about needing to overclock the GPU or anything else, or paint it or do any hardware tweaking. If it can run Doom 3 on high detail and still get about 40 fps, I'm happy. It's the battery life that's my main concern, but that seems to be cool. Hell, I don't even play games much; just wanted the 6600 in case of college LAN parties.

So Smilepak, when are you gonna do a review of yours, if only for a direct comparison?
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post #74 of 135
4/5/05 at 5:37pm
I won't receive my laptop until tomorrow night. It will take me a couple of days to setup Windows and other stuff on it. I might have it sometime this weekend if I have time.

Found this on the nVidia forum...not sure if it really makes any differences..

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One thing to remember. According to the information I read, you need to be plugged into the wall to really take advantage of the 6600 due to power consumption.
Another thing to ponder about..

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Advanced Engineering

Designed for PCI Express x16
Designed for high-speed DDR, DDR2, and GDDR3 memory
Advanced thermal management and thermal monitoring
Does this mean depending on the laptop it could be using DDR, DDR2, or DDR3 memory on the video?
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post #75 of 135
4/5/05 at 5:46pm
Ah, well, then I'll just have to wait a while. As for that blurb from Nvidia, I'm not that surprised. After all, isn't the CPU itself supposed to slow down when on battery? After the screen, I would think that the graphics card would be the biggest power drain on a laptop.
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post #76 of 135
4/5/05 at 6:13pm
FYI...

The current OMEGA driver for nVidia is using a very old version of the nVidia driver. It is using Forceware 61.77, while the latest version from nVidia is 71.84. If you are planning to use a mod version of nVidia driver, you could use http://www.dhzeropoint.net/ which uses the 71.84 nVidia driver.

This "might" give you a little better performance in terms between the Omega Driver vs using DHZeroPoint, as the older driver from Omega might not have proper support for nVidia GO Geforce 6600.
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post #77 of 135
4/5/05 at 6:16pm
Smilepak, I have a question for you and anybody else who wants to put in their 2 cents.

I was notified that the company building my notebook is out of 512 sticks of PC-4200 ram, this is the system I ordered:
Asus z71v
Pentium M 760 2ghz
2x512 mb pc 4200 533mhz dual channel
hitachi 60gb 7200rpm
Intel a/b/g 2915
DVDRW drive

They said I can wait till it comes in (couple of days), or they can ship it with 1 stick of 1gb ram (single channel) at no extra cost, or they can give me a good price on another 1gb stick making it 2x1gb dual channel pc-4200. I am not sure what to do, I do compress dvds, burn, other file compression, and gaming. I would be using my laptop at home for mostly processes like compression, etc. and I would use my desktop for gaming (laptop gets to game when I am out of town). What would you do in this situation? I ask you smilepak because you ordered 2gb of ram and I wondered what you do that uses that? And if I could use that amount of ram, if it is worth it? Thanks
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post #78 of 135
4/5/05 at 6:20pm
Go with the 1GB single channel. Dual Channel DDR2 right now only yield at best 5% improvement over Single Channel DDR2.

If they give you 1GB stick, that is a much better deal as you have extra slot for upgrade to 2GB, this will be extremely helpful in the future.

I went with 2GB because I wanted to do all in one swoop. Also, I've been spoiled with having desktops with a lot of RAM too.
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post #79 of 135
4/5/05 at 6:27pm
so you do not think i would currently have a need for 2gb? I use programs like dvd shrink, win rar, azureus, vsub, and other decoding/encrypting/conversion software.
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post #80 of 135
4/5/05 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by cward0625
so you do not think i would currently have a need for 2gb? I use programs like dvd shrink, win rar, azureus, vsub, and other decoding/encrypting/conversion software.
2GB now? not really. I am doing it fine on one of my desktop with 1GB. So I doubt you have any problem with it. I have 2 desktops. One with 1GB and the other with 2GB eheheh...
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