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post #21 of 44
You should check some previous threads. I'm too lazy to search, but much discussion has been done . . . the Asus M6N will not boot with PC3200 installed. Only PC2700 works.
post #22 of 44
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Originally Posted by hyc
With 246MB in use in your paging file, you should definitely expand to 1GB of RAM. The other thing to beware of if you decide to buy PC3200 is that not all PC3200 memory works in Asus M6s, as I also mentioned on my web writeup. Anyway, reducing the use of the paging file will compensate somewhat for the slowness of the hard drive.
He could use the same PC3200 you are using right now in yours that worked. heheeh
post #23 of 44
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Originally Posted by MrGraphics
You should check some previous threads. I'm too lazy to search, but much discussion has been done . . . the Asus M6N will not boot with PC3200 installed. Only PC2700 works.
Your response is about as useful as a bucket of warm spit. Some PC3200 memory works fine in an M6Ne; I know because I've purchased some (from Geared2Play) that does work. I've also purchased some (Kingmax, from NewEgg) that doesn't work. If you're too lazy to even get your facts right, let alone provide references, then you shouldn't even bother responding.

For reference, all M6N's purchased from Geared2Play, with their bundled memory, come with PC3200 memory, and it would sure be a stupid thing for them to bundle if none of it worked, huh? The only reason I originally bought my system from them without their memory is to get 2GB total; they only offer 512MB parts so I would have been limited to 1GB total using their memory.
post #24 of 44
basically as explained before, the ddr400 memory will work in the 333 slot, but will only get 333mhz. If its cheaper than the pc2700, then do it up, still quality memory that even allows for a bit of OCing. Definitely get yourself a gig of ram, I would just set that as a minimum for anyone who does anything really past word processing, as windows and other necessary programs seem to eat up a significant portion of that 512 you have there, esp only at 2100. And you could even just get a 5400rpm drive, i have a 40 gig 5400, 60 gig 5400 would read even faster because of the increased data density, and this computer is not sluggish at all, so maybe you could do something like that. You'd be surprised at the difference between 4200 and 5400 rpm...

so yea, in short:

1 gig (2x512) pc2700 or 3000, whatever is cheaper (either one will be faster regardless of latiencies) ~$79 american each = $158 for 1 gig (corsair value select, good ram, cheap price)

80? gig 5400rpm drive. ~$125 american (hitachi 80 gig 5400rpm)
post #25 of 44
HYC correctomundo. That is funny though. Some people will give the craziest advice. I had a person ask me the other day "will your 3200 ram work in the notebooks you sell, because asus states they only work with 2700?". Ofcourse i reply with the downward compatible theory and the overclocking explanation and avoid saying "do you think we would be selling incompatible ram?" as some people may be offended when you reply to their question with a question. Didnt think it was funny till i read the warm bucket of spittanalogy. Here is a scenario someone may appreciate. A few months back when the z80k hit the market we offered both housebrand and micron for it. Both worked fine and even passed 2 different memory burn ins. With new products we qualify ram by using different utilities. Staying on the safe side and avoiding tech support is the motto. After a few days mem86 came out with a new revision (was informed by a customer that the test failed, to my surprise he used a newer version of mem86). Our housebrand suddenly started failing. 24 hours later the first person called and said "my computer reboots when playing games". Luckily i was expecting that. Advanced replacement for 4 different people actually got us a good review and a refferal. Moral of the story is. If it posts it doesnt mean its compatible. If it doesnt post it dont mean its a bum/crap brand.....
post #26 of 44
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Originally Posted by hyc
Your response is about as useful as a bucket of warm spit. Some PC3200 memory works fine in an M6Ne; I know because I've purchased some (from Geared2Play) that does work. I've also purchased some (Kingmax, from NewEgg) that doesn't work.
Are those Corsair or standard Samsung?

Kingmax are bunch of junk. So unstable on my desktop. I only stick with Corsair, Mushkin, Kingston, and Crucial...

The only good thing about kingmax are their SD card they have. It is 60x at pretty good price. Works well in digital camera and mp3 players. Otherwise, all other component, junks in my opinion.

I've recently been considering OCZ eheheheh

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If its cheaper than the pc2700, then do it up, still quality memory that even allows for a bit of OCing.
Even if the PC3200 are a bit more expensive (within 10 bucks USD ranges) I would still go with PC3200 for the fact they allow OCing and more leg room.
post #27 of 44
It's not Corsair, it's whatever the Geared2Play house brand is. There's no brand name on the DIMMs anywhere.

Also as far as getting PC3200 with the intention of overclocking - watch your system temperature...
post #28 of 44
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Originally Posted by hyc
With 246MB in use in your paging file, you should definitely expand to 1GB of RAM. The other thing to beware of if you decide to buy PC3200 is that not all PC3200 memory works in Asus M6s, as I also mentioned on my web writeup. Anyway, reducing the use of the paging file will compensate somewhat for the slowness of the hard drive.
I won't argue that upgrading to 1GB RAM isn't a good idea (I couldn't survive with less than 1GB), but basing that recommendation on the fact that there is 246MB paged to disk is not sound advice. Look at the difference between current and peak in that screenshot. It's less than 20MB; hardly what I'd describe as a memory-starved system. For comparison, I have 1GB in my machine and I currently have 232MB paged out to disk. This is perfectly normal VM behaviour.
post #29 of 44
426Hemi,

From what I have seen of your system stats, I believe the harddrive upgrade from 4200RPM --> 7200RPM would benefit you best. With this upgrade, you'll experience a world of difference in boot times and application loading times. It'll feel like a new notebook.
post #30 of 44
Ah yes, you're right. I forgot that the Windows Task Manager doesn't show actual usage, only what it has reserved. I have around 250M reserved on my system as well, even with 2GB of memory. Iarsn Taskinfo shows me that only 18M is actually being used at the moment though, which is what I was thinking of.

Now it seems the only trick is finding the 7200rpm drive at a reasonable price, still in stock, eh?
post #31 of 44
426Hemi, from your initial post and and some of your later comments, I'm not sure if you need any new hardware at all. Yes, getting a faster hard drive or more RAM will speed up your computer, but if it's running sluggish now compared to when you bought it, then I would guess you've got some adware or spyware that's slowing your system down. Ad-Aware, Spybot, & Microsoft Anti-spyware are all good solutions for this. The suggestions everyone else gave are good, but if this is your problem, then even with additional resources, your system will still seem slow. just my 2 cents worth on the subject.
post #32 of 44
get 2.0GHz, 1GB of pc3200 Ram, 60GB 7200RPM and throw your exsisting HDD into an external enclosure, that will make your laptop uber fast!
post #33 of 44
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Djembe_Rob
426Hemi, from your initial post and and some of your later comments, I'm not sure if you need any new hardware at all. Yes, getting a faster hard drive or more RAM will speed up your computer, but if it's running sluggish now compared to when you bought it, then I would guess you've got some adware or spyware that's slowing your system down. Ad-Aware, Spybot, & Microsoft Anti-spyware are all good solutions for this. The suggestions everyone else gave are good, but if this is your problem, then even with additional resources, your system will still seem slow. just my 2 cents worth on the subject.
It's not that its sluggish now compared to when I bought it, its just that I'm around different computers often, and mine just seems a little slower, but then again I notice a lot of the people around me have 40gb and 60gb 5400rpm hard drives.

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Originally Posted by hyc
Ah yes, you're right. I forgot that the Windows Task Manager doesn't show actual usage, only what it has reserved. I have around 250M reserved on my system as well, even with 2GB of memory. Iarsn Taskinfo shows me that only 18M is actually being used at the moment though, which is what I was thinking of.

Now it seems the only trick is finding the 7200rpm drive at a reasonable price, still in stock, eh?
Finding a 7200rpm hard drive for a reasonable price and in Canada is gonna be hard...

Now as for the RAM, I'll only get it if I can get a really good deal on a 512mb stick of either PC2700 or PC3200.
post #34 of 44
Thread Starter 
60gb 5400rpm 16mb cache vs 60gb 7200rpm 8mb cache

just realized the 5400rpm with 16mb is way cheaper then the 7200rpm with 8mb

does the cache really make a difference?
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by 426Hemi
I'm at work right now, but when I go home and start working on my lappy, I'll give ya some numbers

smilepak, the 512MB DDR400 RAM costs $125 (or possibly even cheaper, like $100), and the 60GB 7200RPM HD costs $219. Factoring price and performance, which of those would give the greater increase in speed?
www.zipzoomfly.com has the 7k60 for about $150-$170, it keeps changing depending on the current demand.
post #36 of 44
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Originally Posted by 426Hemi
60gb 5400rpm 16mb cache vs 60gb 7200rpm 8mb cache

just realized the 5400rpm with 16mb is way cheaper then the 7200rpm with 8mb

does the cache really make a difference?

This question calls for our great SNORRE!!! I recall him posting a link to i believe either on anandtech.com or somewhere which did that exact comparison. 7200RPM 8mb still wins.

I recall they mentioned the 5400RPM 16MB (was made by toshiba if i recall) was a sad sad HD
post #37 of 44
Thread Starter 
Someone's selling a stick of 512MB DDR333 RAM for $75 CDN (which is a decent price). Is it worth it? It's this stuff: http://www.rosewill.com/product/prod...x?productId=56
post #38 of 44
Rosewill, hmm haven't had much interaction with them. I've seen it for sell on newegg.com a few time, but haven't heard much about their quality.
post #39 of 44
Thread Starter 
nobody's heard of rosewill?
post #40 of 44
Thread Starter 
OK, I decided that i'm gonna pick up the rosewill ram since the price is really good ($65 CDN). From the specs from the website, will this RAM be compatible with my M6BNe? 200 pin, DDR333, PC2700?

http://www.rosewill.com/product/prod...x?productId=56
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