PS. Laffing Billy, that's one hell of a chip on your shoulder, mate. You're an absolute arse, and you don't even belong in this thread as I can't figure out how it might concern you one jot. So, Get over it. Personally, I think you're only here because you're basking 100% in the security that you're not paying double for your wares yourself
, and are hence purely here for the sneering, snobby back-stabbing.
Moreso, you have made for personal insults at the Brits, whereas we all have absolutely no beef with the American people themselves in this thread. So wind your neck in and get over youself and your egotistical prejudices, laffingbilly.
Originally Posted by crashnburn
Global macro-economics works in very wierd ways.. as the UK fellow said.. take a fortnight vacation.. buy stuff return home happier..
Things are priced at a 'market value' wherever they are sold.
America is the largest consumer of EVERYTHING when it comes to things like electronics and computer products. American market = High Volume... less margin. Think WALMARTish.. Thats the reality. Too many options too good of customer service. RIDICULOUSLY AMAZING RETURN POLICIES.
Thats the BIGGEST REASON why I like it here.
What do I not like... compared to Europe..
- Short paid vacations compared to Europeans taking HUGE 2 month long vacations... wow!
- I think we probably get paid more.. but also spend more on stuff.. European countries governments and social benefits I hear are MUCH MUCH better.
- A medical examination without insurance in US will kill u... financially..
- Europe = nice public transport.. less hassle.. of driving around..
Also.. if you look around there are always places where things will be cheaper.. than others.. comparison and cribbing is pointless.. GO FLY AND BUY.
Example: High quality cotton shirt from same manufacturer and manufactured at the same location in the world.
UK - 60 quid
US - 40 bucks
India - 700-1000 Rs = 20 $
Bangkok - Probably cheaper at the right place.
I think that, by reading what many (American) people are writing in this thread, there is somehow a massively counterfactual view of what appears to be perceived of the financial conditions and infrastructure of Europe. From my portal in the UK, let's set the record straight...
Gah, two month holidays?! What planet are you on?! Tell me where I the heck I can work which lets me have more than 4 weeks off in a whole year, let alone all together! However, the schoolkids have six weeks off during the summer from school. Maybe you're thinking of them, lol?
In work, though, the Brits probably rank as being alongside the most
over-worked in the world. We have to, as everything costs so damn much, and taxes are so high!!! HENCE THIS THREAD. I earn a pittance. And mortgages are sky high... Do you know how much a damn 3-bedroomed semi-detached house with tiny 6m x 6m garden costs? In dollars it's $320,000!! I can see myself having no choice other than to buy a 30ft long canal barge (a "bargain" at $70,000 - note the speech marks, that's called: "irony") to live in, as that would be the only way I can afford a roof over my head.
Some more real-world figures for the UK (shown in dollars):-
A new car with 1.6litre engine: $26,000.
Broadband (of speed: 512/256) : $50/month
Petrol (gas): $1.64/litre
A single CD album (pop/chart music): $26.28
A pint of beer: $3.85 (which equals around $3.38 per half-litre).
Bottle of whisky (70cl) = $23.70
(I added the "cheap" beer, because funnily enough it's probably one of the most heavily taxed commodities here in the UK (percentage-wise), along with, and especially, petrol (gasoline), but I guess LaughingBilly was more into spitting out any odd words he could think of rather than go by first-hand experience or research).
And then we get to the average wage, after tax, is around $30,000.
So-called "Tax Freedom Day" (when you finish paying salary-based taxes and start earning your OWN money) is, June 10th. Yep, 100% of the time from January 1st right through to June 10th we work to subsidise the government. After that our money is theoretically our own ("oh thank you so very much!" [note - more irony]), until December 31st.
$30,000, after tax, will be higher, of course, than some countries, but the cost of living is so damn high here, the outgoing spenditure is immense. It's overwhelming, to tell the truth. However, I guess we're poorer off than most overall, as the cost of living is so great. Nearly all of us here in the UK are running on credit, in the red, loaned out from every orifice. And the taxes....
In this country, your inheritance gets heavily taxed (40% in some cases), your retirement pension gets taxed, your savings get taxed, your salary gets massively taxed, everything you buy gets taxed (VAT), then there's council tax, road tax, stamp duty, national insurance tax, income tax, customs tax, blahdy blah I could be here all night....
And as for the UK's "free" healthcare, the National Health Service in this country is an absolute god-damn shambles. An extremely very bad way. If you require any sort of scan, there is a 6-month waiting list. If you just require a single appointment to see a specialist you're looking at 4 months. If the specialist requires that you have a scan (six month waiting list, as mentioned), it can literally stretch out for years. This is the price you pay for a "free" service (which, ironically isn't free, as the UK is taxed so damn high to begin with).
For example, my dad had a severe heart-attack last year, but there were no beds in the city hospital so he remained in A&E (ie. Emergency Room) overnight, and doctors didn't start treating him properly for 3 WHOLE DAYS. The reason? He had his heart attack at the weekend (on a saturday morning), thus there are literally no fully-trained doctors to administer and properly diagnose people (nurses have no power), nor qualified personnel manning the scanners to take anything other
than an X-Ray. GOD FORBID SOMEONE HAS A BLOODY HEART ATTACK DURING THE WEEKEND!!!
And we move on to public transport, as mentioned by Crashnburn. The rest of the public transport in Europe is ace, especially France. However, in England it's diabolical, very much in particular the train network, and it's a rip-off to boot. (It costs nearly $200 to travel 300 miles from London up to the North of England, and odds on you'll have to swap trains thrice, and wait for each one. If you can make the journey before it gets dark, you'll be lucky.)
So despite all this, us in the UK are stood to pay twice what you pay, for an identical sodding laptop. What the heck do you expect us to do? Are you real?