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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone,

I bought my 8104 last week, and so far I'm extremely pleased with it. The only problem I'm having thus far is getting Linux to play nice with it. I installed FC3 and got the wireless working properly, but I'm having a hell of a time getting the resolution above 800x600. I've been working in the xorg.conf file, but the best I've managed to do is cripple X.
If anyone out there has gotta a distro up and running (any distro..) please let me know how you got it configured properly!
Thanks in advance!

--------------- UPDATE -----------------

For anyone who might eventually read this:
Finally got it working... sort of.
Steps:
- Booted into run level 3 (typed 'a' during grub loading, added '3' to the end of the kernel parameters).
- installed ati binary rpm, (rpm -ivh --force filename.rpm) ran fglrxconfig to make a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
- editted the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file:
-> replaced "AUTO, AUTO" on the MonitorLayout line with "LVDS, AUTO"
-> added "ChipID 0x5D57" in the "Device" section right after the "Driver "fglrx"" line.
-> added "1600x1050" as the first element in my "Modes" line in the "Screen" section... if you're not sure what I'm talking about, it should be around line 510 in the file generated by fglrxconfig if you stuck mainly with the defaults.

Those changes allowed me to at least start X (by typing "startx" at the command prompt, for fellow neophytes). However, I seem to have a syncing problem now. When X starts up, everything seems to get duplicated horizontally on alternating lines... it's hard to explain. In the morning, I'll try to update my system, and I'll see if that helps.... urg.

Again... don't be shy if you know what I'm doing wrong
post #2 of 19
Stocks.....I am interested in your work...pls post if you have any new info on this ...thanks
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
I was starting to wonder if ANYONE was going to reply

I'm actually heading into final exams right now, so I probably won't be able to do much more research until I head back home to Montreal. Right now, I haven't been able to figure out what's wrong with my display. I don't know the term for what I'm seeing.. maybe "tearing"? If I can get a pic that shows it off, I'll post a link.
I don't think it's a H/W issue, as my everything works fine in Windows and with the default xorg.conf. However, as soon as I use the ati drivers, I get the artifacting I mentioned at all resolutions.
I'm trying to synthesize whatever I can find online, and it seems that some people have gotten Ubuntu onto their 8104's, with no mention of what I've seen. When I have time, I might give that a try, so I can at least narrow down the scope of the problem.
At the moment, I'm not really sure where the problem lies, there are a number of things I suspect (not that I have any real experience with this stuff).
Primarily, in the "Device" section of the xorg.conf file, I needed to use ChipID 5D57, which is actually the id of the PCIE x800, as there's no current id assigned to the mobility x700. If someone has an idea of how I can test this wild guess.. please speak up!
Anyways... back to studying for me!
post #4 of 19
Im very intrested aswell stocks as I need a laptop that will run linux (ubuntu especially), if the 8100 can't do it then I shall be looking elsewhere. .. let me know if you solve the problem with the vid drivers

Thanks
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi TrancerSteve. Well, you might just be lucky. I finally gave up on FC3 earlier today when I took a break from studying (don't tell my University... Waterloo would probably just work me harder if they knew I had free time!).
I quickly got a copy of Ubuntu and burned it to a cd, ran the installer, and within an hour I had Ubuntu installed and working. I had to send in "acpi=off" and "noacpi" as boot parameters (you can add them too /boot/grub/menu.lst if you prefer) to be able to boot up properly, but after that things went smoothly.
Right now I'm having some problems with my usbkey, and I dunno if wireless will work because I haven't had the chance to try it on campus.
Overall, it's been far easier with Ubuntu than with FC3, and there seems to be more people out there who've gotten Ubuntu running on the Acer 8104 than any other distro from what I've seen.
When I have a chance to tinker around some more, I'll try to update, but right now, it looks like Ubuntu is what's going to stay on my 8104.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by stocks
Hi TrancerSteve. Well, you might just be lucky. I finally gave up on FC3 earlier today when I took a break from studying (don't tell my University... Waterloo would probably just work me harder if they knew I had free time!).
I quickly got a copy of Ubuntu and burned it to a cd, ran the installer, and within an hour I had Ubuntu installed and working. I had to send in "acpi=off" and "noacpi" as boot parameters (you can add them too /boot/grub/menu.lst if you prefer) to be able to boot up properly, but after that things went smoothly.
Right now I'm having some problems with my usbkey, and I dunno if wireless will work because I haven't had the chance to try it on campus.
Overall, it's been far easier with Ubuntu than with FC3, and there seems to be more people out there who've gotten Ubuntu running on the Acer 8104 than any other distro from what I've seen.
When I have a chance to tinker around some more, I'll try to update, but right now, it looks like Ubuntu is what's going to stay on my 8104.
Hi stocks, Thats good news! .. can you get ubuntu so uses the LCD's native res or are you stuck in a low res?

Yeah theres very info around about linux and the 8100 , i assume as the 8100 is still quite new.

Would be nice if u could find out if the wireless works or not

thanks for the reply
post #7 of 19
No joy with ubuntu 5.04 on the 8104 for me. It works flawlessly on my zd7000 (minus modem and wifi support). But I have acpi and graphics chip issues on the 8104. I have not had time to resolve them yet.

That said, I knew this going in. ATI linux support is atrocious.
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hey,
I installed Ubuntu on the 8104 and (after dealing with the initial acpi problem) it booted up by default into the native rez of 1680x1050, no poking or prodding needed.
I was just happy to get it into the right res, but there are some issues that remain.
Namely: acpi is still screwy (but there seem to be fixes out there), wireless needs some work (haven't had the chance to tackle this yet, still got four finals left this week). USB is defective, but I'm sure I can figure that out once I have time to work on it.
So.. you can see that trying to get Linux to install on the 8104 isn't a walk in the park, but it's certainly been nicer with Ubuntu. Also, regarding wireless: I was able to get wireless working in FC3 using the intel drivers, so I'm hoping that the same kinda thing will work in Ubuntu... to be revealed at a later date.
post #9 of 19
Have you got it working with ATI's fglrx driver ? I got it working at 1680x1050 with vesa right now but it's horribly slow. If I switch fo the fglrx driver, I start getting the same flicker problem you mentioned at the beginning of the thread (I took pictures of it).

Any one got ideas on this ?

Alex
post #10 of 19
Stocks,

Good work you will help us. I was planning on getting an 8104 but had a question on if Linux would work on it. I heard that ATI driver support was very spotty.

Any luck with OpenGL, hardware acceleration ?

Doc
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Just to update briefly:
I have two finals left... I'll be back home by Friday and will hopefully have time to work on it then.
post #12 of 19
I have an acer 8104 with gentoo
I ve tried to install my graphic card (X700),
I launched the fgrlx module,
it was found by fglrxinfo but when I start Xorg up , my screen stayed black.
Did anyone succeed to install an X700 card.

I also tried to install my sound card by alsa module (by kernel) but noway , alsa can't find it by alsaconfig.
0000:00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)

Thanks
glaswynn
post #13 of 19
Iam working on this as well if I figure it out I will archive the tree so that you guys can use in your 8100's as well. But its taking me a while as my work schedule doesn't permit me to spend alot of time on it. I want to see if we can make a Acer 8100 linux.
Which flavor would be best?
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
glaswynn,
In gentoo, is the wireless workable, and do usbkeys work?
I'm not spending much time dealing with the videocard right now because I use my linux partition mainly for development work. My priority is getting usb/wireless working, but so far I've made little progress.
usb was briefly working the other day when I removed the ehci-hcd module, but since then I haven't been able to reproduce it. I haven't had any progress with wireless.. none whatsoever.
This is starting to get frustrating...
It seems like some people have had success getting the wireless/usb to work with some acpi patch that's floating about, but I don't know how to update the kernel to 2.6.12 in Ubuntu and don't know how to apply the patch that people are referring to... any of you guys have any good resources/tutorials that may steer me in the right direction?
post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by stocks
glaswynn,
In gentoo, is the wireless workable, and do usbkeys work?
I'm not spending much time dealing with the videocard right now because I use my linux partition mainly for development work. My priority is getting usb/wireless working, but so far I've made little progress.
usb was briefly working the other day when I removed the ehci-hcd module, but since then I haven't been able to reproduce it. I haven't had any progress with wireless.. none whatsoever.
This is starting to get frustrating...
It seems like some people have had success getting the wireless/usb to work with some acpi patch that's floating about, but I don't know how to update the kernel to 2.6.12 in Ubuntu and don't know how to apply the patch that people are referring to... any of you guys have any good resources/tutorials that may steer me in the right direction?
There are some hints here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2222597.html
and here:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18701

I got the basic stuff working on my 8104
Slackware 10.1 - kernel 2.6.11.7
WiFi, LAN, USB (Keyboard & mouse), DVD, X700

Cheers,
_EnF_
post #16 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnF70
There are some hints here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2222597.html
and here:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18701

I got the basic stuff working on my 8104
Slackware 10.1 - kernel 2.6.11.7
WiFi, LAN, USB (Keyboard & mouse), DVD, X700

Cheers,
_EnF_
You got it working with slackware? if that is the case I want to also use slack ware I want to use the easiest version that allows me to set things up.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by jami1
You got it working with slackware? if that is the case I want to also use slack ware I want to use the easiest version that allows me to set things up.
I'm afraid I have bad news for you. Slackware is not easy nor user-friendly
I don't know if there is a distribution that works out of the box for 8100 at this time.
I had to compile a new kernel, apply patches, change configuration files, etc...

_EnF_
post #18 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnF70
I'm afraid I have bad news for you. Slackware is not easy nor user-friendly
I don't know if there is a distribution that works out of the box for 8100 at this time.
I had to compile a new kernel, apply patches, change configuration files, etc...

_EnF_
It would be nice for someone to help get a copy working and then "tar" their tree so that we all could have a working version of linux.

That is what I am working on but its taking me longer than expected because I am a bit rusty when it comes to linux. I keep kicking myself for not staying up on it.
post #19 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by stocks
glaswynn,
In gentoo, is the wireless workable, and do usbkeys work?
Wireless and Usb works on gentoo but only with the 2.6.12-mm* kernel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stocks
It seems like some people have had success getting the wireless/usb to work with some acpi patch that's floating about, but I don't know how to update the kernel to 2.6.12 in Ubuntu and don't know how to apply the patch that people are referring to... any of you guys have any good resources/tutorials that may steer me in the right direction?
I advice you to install a 2.6.12-mm* because there are some patchs regarding acpi and the 915M chipset.

My X700 still doesn't work
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