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Question regarding Itunes

post #1 of 11
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Hello all,

I was wondering if any of you experienced Ipod/Apple user's know how to convert Itunes downloaded music files (the ones you buy from their service) to regular MP3 files. I want to be able to archive and store all my bought music if i get the program onto a portable hard drive or non-ipod player for safe keeping (in case something crashes or deletes everything).
post #2 of 11
This one is a easy fix. It takes some time and its on the verge of technically breaking the DMA but you have to burn the songs to a CD and then rip them as a MP3. There are a few programs that claim to make this easier but if the music is bought off iTunes it will have to be done the hard way. Again breaking copyright ristriction codes is wrong and isnt condoned.
post #3 of 11
the issue w/ itunes, imo, isn't re: DRM, it's more about the BS of only being able to play them on permitted systems. every MP3 i've ripped from MY collection is copyright free, cuz i don't want to mess w/ whether or not i can play it on my iBook, my windows desktop, my MP3 player, a family member's system when i go to visit, etc. if licenses ever become truly portable i'll think about it. until then, it's my music and i'll listen to it on any device i see fit.

Taelvin, are u on a PC? if so i tend to use nero to burn a disc image of the songs i've purchased. u can use nero's virtual disc utility, to mount the image, tho i usually use daemon tools to do it. then u can use nero, or whatever ripping software u see fit, to encode the tracks to MP3s at the bitrate of your choosing. but, as u may be looking to make a hard copy of your downloaded music actually burning a CD (then ripping) would work too. for me, the vast majority of my collection is made up of good old fashioned store bought studio CDs, w/ a handful of DRM stuff that i've burnt to add to my collection in the car, cuz in the house, why would anyone actually use a CD player?

w/ re: to your system being a Mac, i'm not sure about the process. i'm guessing it involves software like toast and the creation of a virtual disc, but i haven't had a need to do anything of the sort on my iBook. i.e.-since my desktop has the faster CD-ROM/R/RW i usually just do my stuff there and drop my tunes onto my iBook over the network.
post #4 of 11
there are also a few direct drm cracking tools out there. They spring up every now and then... then they are taken away.. one was called fairplay another was called deDRMS.

Circumventing copy protection is against the law, specifically since the DMCA was passed (he's hoping it dies in 05 as planed). That said if you use these programs in America, you are breaking the law.

I cannot legally provide you with a link to the software, and i cannot instruct you on how to use it. The dissemination of the information that it exists however is legal.

That will create an exact copy of your songs with no drm. ripping to cd then reripping to the hard drive is not only cumbersome, but also reduces the quality. When youa re starting with a 128 bit file (yes, even aac) this loss in quality is quite perceivable, at least to me.
post #5 of 11
i am not sure if i am allowed to post this link, but here goes - http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/

by the way it currently does not work, they need to bypass some protection issue with the latest version of itunes, i would give it a few days until they release a new version.
post #6 of 11
You don't have to convert them to store them on an external drive. If you put them on another mp3 player you'd have to convert them if you want to listen to them, but you could store them just fine in their native format.
post #7 of 11
Well you could also try the one that Linus Torvalds came up with (PyMusique). It stops the DRM from getting attached to the purchased music before you download it. Currently there is no Windows version, only Linux although I read it can be run on OS X using X11.....but you didn't hear (or read) this from me. I'm not suggesting that anyone break the law.
post #8 of 11
just for the sake of discussion, what exactly would be breaking the law about downloading a PAID FOR audio track w/o DRM weaved into it? i get how the companies want their goods fingerprinted and whatnot, but there is a demand for DRM-free and purchased goods. if not then there wouldn't be various vendors of the mentioned type popping up.
post #9 of 11
Linus Torvalds didn't make PyMusique...the norwegian kid who came up with DeCSS did. Jon Johanssen or something.
post #10 of 11
yah dvd john.. he rules.

what's illegal about it is.. under the dmca circumventing copy protection is illegal in america.

yah.. written into the patriot act. what a crock of ... the discussion of how to circumvent the copy protection is even illegal.
post #11 of 11
lmao, so technically, if one were to have DRM material on their computer and to have burnt it to CD for listening and/or backup of the data, and say a HD crashes, cuz that never happens right? so that happens and then your only option to get those tracks back onto your computer's new HD is to rip the music from your CD, hence bypassing the DRM BS, and "breaking the law" in the process. a crock indeed...
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