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post #1 of 26
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I'm wanting to try out Ubuntu since everyone's been raving about it. I've used Slackware most of my Linux life. I've tried out Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, Debian, etc. However, I always end up going back to Slackware. I'm just wondering if anyone has used Slackware and moved over to Ubuntu. I'd like to hear your opinions. I want to use run Ubuntu on my laptop. Slackware will stay on my file server.
post #2 of 26
i am an ubuntu user, but i did have slack installed briefly. i actually like ubuntu better than slack. you might wanna try the live cd before installing if you're not sure
post #3 of 26
I downloaded it and was going to try it. But I have done the same as you. I have tried literally, no joke, 50+ distro's. Slackware is the only one I keep using and have stopped trying other distro's. They just always fall short of my needs. I really don't like systems that make up my mind for me. Ubuntu is really just debian. But hey, you should try it and make up your own mind. That's the beauty of having the choice, if there's something that fits *your* needs better then go ahead and do it. If not, then slackware will always be there for you too.
post #4 of 26
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I learned a lot about Linux from using Slackware. I like how I have a lot of control since I still have to do most of my work modifying the system through configuration files. I guess I'll just have to give up some time and try out Ubuntu Hoary. Apt-get from Debian seems like a major time saver. I tried out straight Debian years ago, but some reason it didn't stick to me like Slackware. I tried other Debian-ish distros like Xandros before and still didn't stick. But so much talk lately about Ubuntu, has got me thinking am I missing out on a great distro?
post #5 of 26
Hey... it's even got me, a die hard gentoo user turning my head... those long emerges *ARE* quite annoying
post #6 of 26
I've tried a lot of distros in my life. Besides FC2, Ubuntu was the only one to stick. I dumped FC2 because i would have to use ndiswrapper to get the wifi working, ubuntu set it up and running out of the box, no tweaking needed. You can still set stuff up by hand in ubuntu, but why would you if there are faster and easier ways to do so. Ubuntu is a Debian, but i tried Debian Serge and removed it later that day. It just didn't have the sticking power of Ubuntu.

As a gentoo user (ugh...Vida Linux OS actually) i can say that debian apt-get is a HUGE time saver over portage or even having to find packages by hand like you have to in some rpm distros. Install, have fun.

One word of working on Ubuntu...it lacks media like a mofo. Go to the ubuntu wiki page and it explains what you need to apt-get to get all the support you'll need.
post #7 of 26
This is the only distro, currently, that works with the Clevo D900T (Sager 9860) out of the box. Uses the 2.6.10 kernel. I tried to get gentoo running, what a pain.

Alex
post #8 of 26
I've been using Ubuntu now for about 6 months. I like it more than RH9, FC2, Mandrake 9, Knoppix, and Solaris (even though that's not a Linux).

The only thing that annoys me, and I don't know if this is hardware based or software based, is that when I use my KVM to switch to my other machine, the mouse stops working. I believe this is probably a hardware problem, though.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by jamesshuang
Hey... it's even got me, a die hard gentoo user turning my head... those long emerges *ARE* quite annoying
I have been a hardcore gentoo user for 2+ years and decided to give Ubuntu a try on my new work laptop. Felt messy to me. I then read an article on osnews about archlinux and gave that a try. I have been using it for 2 weeks on my work laptop and must say that gentoo has been decrowned as my OS of choice. I think its the perfect alternative for ppl using gentoo or slackware.

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Shawn
post #10 of 26
Heya,

I've tried a lot of distros too .... I used to have gentoo on all my systems, but it always had its problems with my notebooks ....
On my servers i now use BSD ...
On the Notebook the only distro that is working (almost) perfectly, is Slackware ...
I've tried Ubuntu, but the last install was so bloated that i kicked it right away ...
I'll give it another try though some time ...

Ubuntu is surely being liked for its great hardware recognition, which is far better then in any other distro ...

We'll see, how it will develop in future ... but for now its a very good grab

cheers
post #11 of 26
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I bit the bullet and installed it. I'm impressed. It detected everything on my laptop. My sound, wifi, etc. just worked. With Slackware 10.1, I had to set it up myself. Sound works without any problems. In Slack, I usually have to disable one of the modem modules since it conflicts with my audio. The only thing it had problems with was my X resolution, it only allows 1024x768. In Slackware 10.1 I had to do some manual editing of the xorg.conf in order to work at 1280x800. I guess I'll have to do the same for Ubuntu. Other than that, so far so good.

I have to figure out how to install programs. In Slack, I either compile from sources or I download a package and do a "installpkg package.tgz".

Only used it for half an hour but looking good. There is huge potential for Ubuntu.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by k3nv
I bit the bullet and installed it. I'm impressed. It detected everything on my laptop. My sound, wifi, etc. just worked. With Slackware 10.1, I had to set it up myself. Sound works without any problems. In Slack, I usually have to disable one of the modem modules since it conflicts with my audio. The only thing it had problems with was my X resolution, it only allows 1024x768. In Slackware 10.1 I had to do some manual editing of the xorg.conf in order to work at 1280x800. I guess I'll have to do the same for Ubuntu. Other than that, so far so good.

I have to figure out how to install programs. In Slack, I either compile from sources or I download a package and do a "installpkg package.tgz".

Only used it for half an hour but looking good. There is huge potential for Ubuntu.
In almost all "modern" Linux distros, when installed on a laptop computer, you have to setup the xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4, if you still use that) manually, because they haven't thought of automatic configuration of these "odd" resolutions ...

But I think, as Slackware users we are easily able to get over it, and configure the stuff ourselves

cheers
post #13 of 26
Hmmm... after a week of using Ubuntu, all I can say is, I can't stand it. Ok, I LOVE the installs, only takes a fraction of the time. HOWEVER, within a week, I've already hit many many quirks of apt-get. In fact, I've already run smack into a weird non-resolvable dependancy, after trying to install gstreamer-faad, (which btw, is NOT in the repositories, and required me to find my own package). I just don't understand why there is NOTHING out there that has any repositories NEARLY as comprehensive as gentoo?! I've tried Slackware. Linuxpackages.net was pretty good, but gnome support sucked, and still didn't have as many packages (audacity installed all weirdly, had ugly fonts, and didn't RECORD). I've tried FC3- beautiful install, but yum/rpm can go suck rocks; dependancy hell here I come .

Is Archlinux any better?! One thing that I hate about gentoo is its horrible propensity to make unstable compiles; Why does ubuntu have a fully supported Gnome 2.10 system, while it's still hard masked under gentoo? I have a few inconsistencies, but the trouble of finding all the packages that are hard masked, and manually adding them to package.keywords and package.unmask is such a pain. What would really ROCK is if there's a distro that uses binary packages and has a package manager that's as complete and comprehensive as gentoo. Is that not a small request?
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by jamesshuang
Hmmm... after a week of using Ubuntu, all I can say is, I can't stand it. Ok, I LOVE the installs, only takes a fraction of the time. HOWEVER, within a week, I've already hit many many quirks of apt-get. In fact, I've already run smack into a weird non-resolvable dependancy, after trying to install gstreamer-faad, (which btw, is NOT in the repositories, and required me to find my own package). I just don't understand why there is NOTHING out there that has any repositories NEARLY as comprehensive as gentoo?! I've tried Slackware. Linuxpackages.net was pretty good, but gnome support sucked, and still didn't have as many packages (audacity installed all weirdly, had ugly fonts, and didn't RECORD). I've tried FC3- beautiful install, but yum/rpm can go suck rocks; dependancy hell here I come .

Is Archlinux any better?! One thing that I hate about gentoo is its horrible propensity to make unstable compiles; Why does ubuntu have a fully supported Gnome 2.10 system, while it's still hard masked under gentoo? I have a few inconsistencies, but the trouble of finding all the packages that are hard masked, and manually adding them to package.keywords and package.unmask is such a pain. What would really ROCK is if there's a distro that uses binary packages and has a package manager that's as complete and comprehensive as gentoo. Is that not a small request?

Use FreeBSD, lol

Btw, --> BreakMyUbuntu <-- here you may find some repos, you may not find by googlin' around...

cheers
post #15 of 26
let me guess, you just used the generic repositories that came already written into the sources.conf ? you must edit it slightly and add some things (directions and additions listed on wiki ubuntu starter guide). that way you get just about everything you can imagine to apt-get. It also helps big time on dependencies.

I installed audacity flawlessly, mplayer, helix player, itunes, quicktime.....everything. stuff JUST WORKS.

furthermore, Ubuntu does support 1280x800 out of the box...at least it did for my uniwill.

make sure you're using Hoary not Warty
post #16 of 26
I tried some of the other repositories, marillat, universe, etc. First thing to go is mplayer- crashed on some types of avi, had huge ugly fonts, even though the same laptop on gentoo had nice fonts. Audacity, ditto with the fonts. In gentoo, they were even antialiased, but on ubuntu, clearly not. Oh yeah, forgot something- if I left marillat uncommented, mplayer complained of a weird dependency issue just like my libfaad problem underneath... I could only install mplayer if I commented out the marillat repositories. When was the last time I had to hide a portion of my portage cache to get a package to install?!

Now, I had a few m4a files from pymusique I wanted to listen to. Fire up rhythmbox, no go. I look it up- there's no gstreamer-faad plugin. apt-get install gstreamer0.8-faad. No such package. Search around, find the gstreamer-faad package from the pymusique site. dpkg -i. Error, you need libfaad2. apt-get install libfaad2. Already installed. Download the pymusique libfaad2. dpkg -i. Pipe error, you can't install this because libfaad2 is already installed! ....... My package requires a package which is already installed..... At times like these, I just wish a simple emerge gstreamer-faad would work like it should...
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by jamesshuang
Hmmm... after a week of using Ubuntu, all I can say is, I can't stand it. Ok, I LOVE the installs, only takes a fraction of the time. HOWEVER, within a week, I've already hit many many quirks of apt-get. In fact, I've already run smack into a weird non-resolvable dependancy, after trying to install gstreamer-faad, (which btw, is NOT in the repositories, and required me to find my own package). I just don't understand why there is NOTHING out there that has any repositories NEARLY as comprehensive as gentoo?! I've tried Slackware. Linuxpackages.net was pretty good, but gnome support sucked, and still didn't have as many packages (audacity installed all weirdly, had ugly fonts, and didn't RECORD). I've tried FC3- beautiful install, but yum/rpm can go suck rocks; dependancy hell here I come .

Is Archlinux any better?! One thing that I hate about gentoo is its horrible propensity to make unstable compiles; Why does ubuntu have a fully supported Gnome 2.10 system, while it's still hard masked under gentoo? I have a few inconsistencies, but the trouble of finding all the packages that are hard masked, and manually adding them to package.keywords and package.unmask is such a pain. What would really ROCK is if there's a distro that uses binary packages and has a package manager that's as complete and comprehensive as gentoo. Is that not a small request?

I am in the same boat as you. Loving gentoo but getting sick of compiling everything. Hence why i suggested archlinux ..... your choice. While i dont agree with some of what the reviewer wrote here is a good read regardless. Arch Linux:Why It Rocks

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Shawn
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by jamesshuang
I tried some of the other repositories, marillat, universe, etc. First thing to go is mplayer- crashed on some types of avi, had huge ugly fonts, even though the same laptop on gentoo had nice fonts.
I installed mplayer with apt-get and it worked fine. I only enabled the Universe and Multiverse repositories.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by whizzler
In almost all "modern" Linux distros, when installed on a laptop computer, you have to setup the xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4, if you still use that) manually, because they haven't thought of automatic configuration of these "odd" resolutions ...

But I think, as Slackware users we are easily able to get over it, and configure the stuff ourselves

cheers
I've only tried 2 distros on my laptop and both only work at 1024 default. Actually with my laptop, it has the 855GM chipset and for some reason X doesn't see the 1280x800 option. I have to run this hack (855resolution) which puts the 1280x800 into the vbios so it can run at 1280x800. With Slack, I had to also put in a Modeline for the resolution.

Upon further messing around with Ubuntu, it seems Ubuntu already has the modeline and settings for 1280x800! It's just that the 855 video is not reporting it. So it just starts up in 1024x764. So it's really not Ubuntu's fault. Just the hardware. After running 855resolution, it works in 1280x800.
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by shawnifoley
I am in the same boat as you. Loving gentoo but getting sick of compiling everything. Hence why i suggested archlinux ..... your choice. While i dont agree with some of what the reviewer wrote here is a good read regardless. Arch Linux:Why It Rocks

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Shawn
I love apt-get!! I can't believe I've been missing out on this incredible package management system. I usually have to compile tightvnc, MPlayer, etc. But with Ubuntu, just do an "apt-get install xtightvnc" and I'm done! Just no fuss.

I think I found my favourite distro, Ubuntu! Slackware use to be #1 hehe. But Slack will always have a place in my heart since it's the distro that taught me so much.

Ubuntu + XFCE just rules!
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