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post #21 of 55
4/12/05 at 8:41pm
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Alright, as for the GPU situation, I have no idea why my temps are lower than CPU it just seems thats how its been for me! It's weird. And as for the 3DMark03 score I only recieved like ~9030. The high score is 11k (which i know is bullshit) but I can't really do anything about it. Decently high end -DESKTOPS- hit 11k. Not notebooks.
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post #22 of 55
4/12/05 at 9:45pm
Thomaszak who reported an 11k score?!?!
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post #23 of 55
4/12/05 at 9:50pm
Thomaszak, run the benchmark at 800X600 like that guy did to get the 11000 score and see what you will get. We all know it is bullshit. Oh, and carefully move the score window so that you will hide the fact that you did the benchmark at 800X600.
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post #24 of 55
4/12/05 at 9:52pm
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11k Is just impossible I think Sakor made a little booboo by letting this one go in. Considedering my specs are considerably higher than his including my overclock. I would bet the screenshot he used was from a desktop. I will rerun my 3DMark03 and submit that score. 9k is pretty damned high. Considering the highest stock is 6.5k.

Taken from: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=53810

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With 256MB Mobility Radeon 9800

1. Original speed

Current record Holder is raelcun;
Inspiron XPS
Pentium 4 3.4GHz (Prescott)
1024MB RAM
60GB @ 7200rpm

Stock Dell driver release
6558 3D marks

2. Overclocked

Current record Holder is shmed;
Inspiron 9100
Pentium 4 3.0GHz
512MB RAM
60GB @ 7200rpm

Using Omega 2.5.97
Clocked at 460/420
11,254 3D marks
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post #25 of 55
4/12/05 at 10:45pm
I totally agree with thomaszak and his post above. Only ATI X800's and above, and NVIDIA 6800GT's and above, AHHEM DESKTOP CARDS!!!, can make 11K and above in 3DMark03. I can already tell that people are going to say... well it's based on the X800 core!!! Well I have a little thread for you to read HERE The main post that shows why that score is not possible is HERE

Stu, I ask that you please remove that score becuase I and others call BS!
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post #26 of 55
4/13/05 at 3:45am
Sorry guys, obviously that score is a bit far-fetched. Sometimes I am very short of sleep when adding scores, updating the FAQ, etc because it is stuff I do in what limited free time I have... so I probably don't do as good a job as I should. It may have been I was satisfied with the screenshot and thought nothing more of checking it further... or it could be that score was supposed to go in the 3dMark2k1 section, I don't know... but I'm sorry for the mistake!

So yes, please do submit a new score for consideration and I will happily disregard the current entry!

Cheers,
Stu
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post #27 of 55
4/13/05 at 12:17pm
Hey Stu, thanks for removing that score. We all understand you have a lot of things to take care of. You are doing a wonderful job of keeping these forums in shape (and us too ) Thanks, and keep up the good work.

Geek
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post #28 of 55
4/13/05 at 1:09pm
3DMark01?
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post #29 of 55
4/13/05 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by ComputerGeek737
Hey Stu, thanks for removing that score.
As of this moment, nothing changed in the record thread - current record is 11,254 3D marks.
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post #30 of 55
4/13/05 at 1:30pm
well i'm sure he will get to eventually so no worries.
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post #31 of 55
4/13/05 at 2:08pm
My X800XT PE scores 12,600 boo ya, I mean they are all the same cores so they should be just as fast........

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post #32 of 55
4/13/05 at 2:41pm
As questinable 11K is, I cannot justify simple deleting of the record without proper investigation. The record holder already got reputation hit and I wouldn't be happy on his place - he might use a rented nitrogen cooling device to get the score and the device is not available now to repeat the result, he might enabled some pipes - I could invent few theories for his defence - he doesn't need to proove the score was good. Now, If you can proove the score wasn't good in the beginning - that's another story.

Remember - there is no rules on the competition. Who said you cannot run 640x480? Or you must run all the test but not exploit the 3dmark bugs?
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post #33 of 55
4/13/05 at 3:38pm
well we have discussed before that rules should be made to prevent things like that from happening. I think that the install of 3DMark should be default and no changes should be made to 3DMark at all. You can do whatever you want to the card, OS etc. but do not change the settings in 3DMark. Also where is shmed in all of this I would like to ask him a few questions to see if we can get this straitened out.
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post #34 of 55
4/13/05 at 3:56pm
I solelly agree that the rules should prevent cheating. But our discussions do not make rules. The record holder rightfully does not care about what we were discussed.
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post #35 of 55
4/15/05 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by ComputerGeek737
well i'm sure he will get to eventually so no worries.
Yeah, had to go back through the thread and find next highest '03 score to put back up. Didn't have time the other day 'cause I was posting right before going to work. In any case, it is updated now and our friend 396ss again holds the record at 8628 3d Marks. Feel free as usual to attempt to beat that score!

As for my stance on rules... well I think any tweaks to system, card clocks ,driver settings, whatever... but 3dMark should be run default settings. I think that generally most people here have been doing that anyway.

Stu
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post #36 of 55
4/15/05 at 12:44pm
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8628 3d Marks
I just got 9000 last night. So I will take a screeny tonight for yall. Then I will go for 3DMark01.
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post #37 of 55
4/15/05 at 2:04pm
thomaszak here are some temperatur stuff of the mettals:
Let me explain:

The heat conductor(I don't know if it's the right word, in other words i mean lead heat away) is based on three things: metal material, crossection, and size.

- Better metal material will conduct heat away easier. NO NOT FASTER!

- If the crossection is bigger(thicker metal) it's easier for the mettal conduct heat away.

- It's easier for a metal to conduct heat away when it's cold rather than hot!

- This is the p(RO) at 20C for the metalls:
Alunminum 0.030
Cobber 0.0170-0.018
Nikkel 0.09-0.11
Silver 0.016
Steel 0.10-0.50

The lower number is the easier it conduct heat away. You can se that silver is the best metal in the list to lead heat away at 20C.

- The temperaturconficient. Tells you how much p(RO) on the metal will increase or decrease with 1C.

Alunminum 0.0039
Cobber 0.0039
Nikkel 0.005
Silver 0.0038(best when it comes to higher temperatur than 20C)
Steel 0.006(best when it comes to lower temperatur then 20c)

The lower number it is the easier way to metal will conduct heat away if it's above 20C and below 20C.

Pluss the FANS does two things: Suck cold air and push it towards the metalls to cool it and get rid of the warm heat that stands in there(that's why you feel warm air back of your laptop). Second it helps the metal to conduct heat away much easier then by it self!

Conclusion: Better metal with conduct heat away easier.

thomaszak try silver for instance.

- end of todays lession.
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post #38 of 55
4/15/05 at 2:54pm
The difference in thermal conductivity of copper and silver will not justify difference in cost.
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post #39 of 55
4/15/05 at 2:58pm
that's true. What about gold wich is even better but alot more expensive!
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post #40 of 55
4/15/05 at 4:52pm
newer m9800s use gddr3 memory. that's why they can be clocked faster.
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