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post #21 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by shoman24v
I sorta don't feel bad.

Hahah they just sent you the same one four times LOL. Return the whole PC if you are not satisifed or live with it.
hehe ...and the little kiddies are arriving too!
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post #22 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:03pm
I've tried taking pictures with digital camera playing with different exposures and ISO or what not, all pictures "exaggerated" the light leakage its not that bad.

My screen is hardly 100 percent black most of the time anyways. I have the LG.

First day I had it, I was very bitchy about the little light leakage and sparkles. After using it for several days, I don't even notice it anymore.

It's your money. No one is forcing you to keep it.
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post #23 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:26pm
ACK, I hope my new XPS2 comes with a LG screen. My original XPS2 had a LG screen and had virtually no leaks.....
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post #24 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:36pm
I need to get pics of my LG up i have like no leakage at all
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post #25 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:48pm
I don't know whether to feel good for you about your determination, or bad for you about your OCD.

-In either case, I DO sincerely feel bad for you about your screen. It really is unacceptable.
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post #26 of 78
4/11/05 at 7:55pm
Somebody else posted something a while back that suggested that the heat from the inverter was responsible for this kind of light leakage. I think the Samsung LCD's are particularly sensitive to heat, and Dell seems to have trouble isolating the LCD from the inverter's heat. I'm sure it's something they could fix if they knew what they were doing.
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post #27 of 78
4/11/05 at 8:23pm
My LG has a leak on the bottom and i can easily live with it.I am getting used to the sparkles and the games looks awesome full res all the way.I am not that picky because i paid 1250 for it but i can see where you guys at,If ive paid over 2,000 i would probably be on my 5th try right now.Why me Dell,why me??????
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post #28 of 78
4/11/05 at 8:39pm
The photo is heavily overexposed (the black of the screen-saver is very far from black, say), and would give a heavily exaggerated representation of the light leakage. This simpy is the way most cameras work on auto settings: In a low light situation it becomes over-sensitive to light.

BTW, by viewing movies etc in a dark environment, when the leakage is most visible, the natural thing is to reduce the backlight level anyway. (perhaps easily forgotten?). This will eliminate most of the visible leakage. Less brightness in such circumstances is good for your eyes, also!
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post #29 of 78
4/11/05 at 8:41pm
NOt everyone. Mine's the samsung - and no light leakage :P
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post #30 of 78
4/11/05 at 8:52pm
Maybe they use a *Certain* screen quality for the 9300 and the other screen quality for the XPS2.
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post #31 of 78
4/11/05 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by maxrule
Maybe they use a *Certain* screen quality for the 9300 and the other screen quality for the XPS2.
Nah they don't.
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post #32 of 78
4/11/05 at 9:02pm
Just for the record, my Samsung has only the slightest hint of light leakage along the bottom and is only visible in obscure situations. The rest of the screen is perfectly evenly lit. It's nothing like what those pictures show. For all intents and purposes, it has no light leakage.
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post #33 of 78
4/11/05 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by streng
The photo is heavily overexposed (the black of the screen-saver is very far from black, say), and would give a heavily exaggerated representation of the light leakage. This simpy is the way most cameras work on auto settings: In a low light situation it becomes over-sensitive to light.

BTW, by viewing movies etc in a dark environment, when the leakage is most visible, the natural thing is to reduce the backlight level anyway. (perhaps easily forgotten?). This will eliminate most of the visible leakage. Less brightness in such circumstances is good for your eyes, also!
It's not overexposed. Not auto setting. Nikon D70 shutter priority. It IS what my eyes see. Why the skepticism??
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post #34 of 78
4/11/05 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by Despotes
It's not overexposed. Not auto setting. Nikon D70 shutter priority. It IS what my eyes see. Why the skepticism??
Well, camera's do make it slightly worse, but I had a 9300 with a Samsung X4766 display and it looked almost exactly like yours to my eyes...though you did need to be in an fairly unlit environment to see it that way. Even under normal lighting though, the uneveness and shadows came thru on dark backgrounds when playing games.

Were all four of your displays the X4766 model?
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post #35 of 78
4/11/05 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by Despotes
Not every LCD has had leakage to the degree I've had. I've seen pics of 9300 screens with very little leakage that I'd love to have.

Yeoman-- I don't stare at a black screen all day--The leakage can be seen through graphics. You don't have the same amount if you cannot see the leakage with normal use.


The ultra-reactionary forces are gathering.
Can you post a screenshot from a game so we can see the light leakage through the game's graphics? I have a bit myself, but can never see it during games...thanks!
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post #36 of 78
4/11/05 at 11:41pm
OK, just got my digital camera back from my gf. Here is what my K9922 looks like with minimal light leakage.

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post #37 of 78
4/12/05 at 12:18am
hmmm, your screen is blurry.
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post #38 of 78
4/12/05 at 12:21am
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Originally Posted by dellbert
Somebody else posted something a while back that suggested that the heat from the inverter was responsible for this kind of light leakage. I think the Samsung LCD's are particularly sensitive to heat, and Dell seems to have trouble isolating the LCD from the inverter's heat. I'm sure it's something they could fix if they knew what they were doing.
Thanks for remembering me Dellbert, I'm honored. Unfortunately I found the inverter not to be the problem. I did find what's causing the extreme leak at the bottom of the screen though.
On the back of the LCD panel, there's a 1.5" X 15" thin aluminum piece, that I believe is there solely as a heat spreader. It's a heat spreader all right, but it's spreading the heat right across the lower pixels. The back light must be mounted on the bottom since the heat is so extreme there. The bad design is Samsung but Dell should have found a solution by incorporating some thermal design inside the back lid itself or atleast go with a diff model.
Wish me luck with my Sony. Should be here Wednesday. I am going to miss the 6800go.
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post #39 of 78
4/12/05 at 12:22am
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Originally Posted by joseyu
OK, just got my digital camera back from my gf. Here is what my K9922 looks like with minimal light leakage.
I am very much hoping that whenever those onsite tech guys finally get a replacement screen for me that they get the K9922. Does it sparkle or glitter? What do you think of it?
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post #40 of 78
4/12/05 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by Tallman
On the back of the LCD panel, there's a 1.5" X 15" thin aluminum piece, that I believe is there solely as a heat spreader. It's a heat spreader all right, but it's spreading the heat right across the lower pixels.
Well, at least the heat part of your theory was correct. Too bad it's not correctible. The Samsung should look pretty good in cold climates, though

Enjoy your new Sony!
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