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post #161 of 210
4/25/05 at 3:47pm
i think whack also tried a program like "go to my pc" to re-flash the dead card when he had no screen. i think it didn't work but it is worth trying again.

also, here is another idea:
say you make a small program and put it in startup on your computer, and if you dont hit enter within, say, 30 sec then it will auto re-flash your card to the default bios. that way if you **** up you card it will fix itself, in a way. if it works then just hit enter and it wont re-flash. i could make the startup program if someone can make the auto flash bios file. all i can do is open a file/program from the code, like the auto re-flash bios program, i can't actually include the bios in the startup progam.
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post #162 of 210
4/25/05 at 4:37pm
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This is what we should do. Acquire nanogens and send them into the MR9800 core and reassemble pipes if bad (I hope it I am wrong that the pipes are bad). Just thought I'd get a laugh, since none of us really know how to build a worthy bios. I seriously belive the pipes are still intact, so don't loose hope. Ah, the power of nanotechnology will leave all of us future microproccessor technos in the dust. Prepare to start learning quantum thecnology.
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post #163 of 210
4/25/05 at 5:46pm
i really like angry monks idea with the 30 seconds script.

1 problem is . What system does the computer have to be in for reflashing gfx cards. (coz the cards that i had to reflash before had to be flashed in DOS)

But if it can be flashed in windows angry-monks idea could work.

Dont loose hope
As soon as somone will work out how to reflash "dead" cards it will be a matter of trial and error (brute force stylee )

P.s lol. whackamac when someone works out howto reflash cards can i have one of your dead ones
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post #164 of 210
4/25/05 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by dueysutra1979
This is what we should do. Acquire nanogens and send them into the MR9800 core and reassemble pipes if bad (I hope it I am wrong that the pipes are bad). Just thought I'd get a laugh, since none of us really know how to build a worthy bios. I seriously belive the pipes are still intact, so don't loose hope. Ah, the power of nanotechnology will leave all of us future microproccessor technos in the dust. Prepare to start learning quantum thecnology.
believe dude...but beyond nanotechnology all techies will be out of work when robotization takes over and machines begin creating their own machines...they call them 4th generation robots and predicted to arrive by 2040. The computers powering robot technology today is still considered 1st generation...still time to learn a new profession, although 40 years from now most people working today will be retired so jsut make sure you don't pass your trade on to your children!

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post #165 of 210
4/26/05 at 12:27am
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Instead of lcd pixels, we coulld have a nanoscreen wich would depic natural image instead of aliasied graphix. Imagine a game were a monster looks as real as seeing a shark in real life. The only problem I have with this would be if the little bugs evolved AI became hostile and then we (humans) would be screwed.
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post #166 of 210
4/26/05 at 1:41pm
Alright, this is definitely getting off-topic. As for a warning, when I flashed my BIOS the first time, I got an unworkable LCD and other outputs except for the VNC. I -WAS- able to reflash, but I ended up reflashing into a bad bios that stopped my card from working at all.
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post #167 of 210
4/26/05 at 3:37pm
so will me idea work or not? cause i can cook-up a program in no time
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post #168 of 210
4/26/05 at 6:49pm
thomas, didn't you also say you got 9 pipes activated at one point?

Thats reason enough to keep pursuing this.
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post #169 of 210
4/26/05 at 6:51pm
I got 9 pipes in my experiments. Verified thru atitool. This was accomplised by suicide flashing a chunk of the desktop x800pro bios to my existing bios.
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post #170 of 210
4/26/05 at 8:50pm
that is enough for me to believe that the goal is entirely attainable, given the other observations.

the only thing i can contribute is trying to persuade the right person into helping us out. if i only knew who... i'm guessing bios programmers are hard to find.


Anyone go to a school with a good computer tech program?
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post #171 of 210
4/27/05 at 11:22am
so let me get this straight, the older mr9800 have only one laser cut (bottom left) but not the laser cut top right (which governs the 8 to 12 pipe config)?

Now the newer mr9800 chips have both laser cuts?
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post #172 of 210
4/29/05 at 12:35am
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It seems more than coincidental that the dell Mobility x300 from dell gives rabit v1.5 crc errors. hmmm... Don't give up hope guys. I am still trying to get help.
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post #173 of 210
4/29/05 at 12:41am
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Has anyone tried atiflash to flash dell's MR9800 "81719217", just to see if our card problems is actualy from the bios and/or the flash utility.
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post #174 of 210
4/29/05 at 12:48am
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Also we might want to try flashrom with forcing bios file if neccessary.
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post #175 of 210
4/30/05 at 12:09pm
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Is anyone going to try this? I will if I have to, but my mr9800 isn't under warranty.
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post #176 of 210
4/30/05 at 2:08pm
Flash what bios to the 9800?? You can alway revive a bad flash. Even if you cant see the screan. I'll try it.
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post #177 of 210
4/30/05 at 4:50pm
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1/2 bent,

d/l dells A01 MR9800 bios from dell, then download flash rom from http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/bios/flashrom240.zip. Extract the A01 bios and use flashrom to flash the "81719217" file from the A01 bios package. you may need to force flash to the MR9800. Hope it works, because it is dells version and if it don't it means some code from the A01 package is required to form a modded bios.
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post #178 of 210
4/30/05 at 5:25pm
I ran EVEREST and it gave me these:

FieldValue
Graphics Processor Properties
Video AdapterATI Mobility Radeon 9800 (M18)
GPU Code NameM18
PCI Device1002 / 4A4E
Transistors160 million
Process Technology0.13u
Bus TypeAGP 8x
Memory Size256 MB
GPU Clock351 MHz (original: 350 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines8
TMU Per Pipeline1
Vertex Shaders4 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware SupportDirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate2808 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate2808 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type?
Bus Width256-bit
Real Clock297 MHz (original: 299 MHz)
Effective Clock297 MHz
Bandwidth9504 MB/s

Graphics Processor Manufacturer
Company NameATI Technologies Inc.
Product Informationhttp://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
Driver Downloadhttp://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

Can someone with X800 ran EVEREST and see what he will get?
What is this TMU Per Pipeline=1?
Also, does X800 have the same number of pixel and vertex shaders?
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post #179 of 210
4/30/05 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by KAROLOYDI
I ran EVEREST and it gave me these:

FieldValue
Graphics Processor Properties
Video AdapterATI Mobility Radeon 9800 (M18)
GPU Code NameM18
PCI Device1002 / 4A4E
Transistors160 million
Process Technology0.13u
Bus TypeAGP 8x
Memory Size256 MB
GPU Clock351 MHz (original: 350 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines8
TMU Per Pipeline1
Vertex Shaders4 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware SupportDirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate2808 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate2808 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type?
Bus Width256-bit
Real Clock297 MHz (original: 299 MHz)
Effective Clock297 MHz
Bandwidth9504 MB/s

Graphics Processor Manufacturer
Company NameATI Technologies Inc.
Product Informationhttp://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
Driver Downloadhttp://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

Can someone with X800 ran EVEREST and see what he will get?
What is this TMU Per Pipeline=1?
Also, does X800 have the same number of pixel and vertex shaders?
FieldValue
Graphics Processor Properties
Video AdapterATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum (R420)
GPU Code NameR420
PCI Device1002 / 4A50
Transistors160 million
Process Technology0.13u
Bus TypeAGP 8x
Memory Size256 MB
GPU Clock526 MHz (original: 520 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines16
TMU Per Pipeline1
Vertex Shaders6 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware SupportDirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate8416 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate8416 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus TypeGDDR3
Bus Width256-bit
Real Clock560 MHz (DDR) (original: 560 MHz)
Effective Clock1120 MHz
Bandwidth35840 MB/s

Graphics Processor Manufacturer
Company NameATI Technologies Inc.
Product Informationhttp://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
Driver Downloadhttp://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
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post #180 of 210
5/1/05 at 2:17am
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Unless someone attempts to install dell's MR9800 bios with a third party software, than we may never truly know if the dell's specific flash software has extra needed code.
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