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post #41 of 210
4/17/05 at 3:01pm
I talked to w1zzard today and asked him why the X800's are laser cut on the left and why the 9800's are cut on the right. Well, a left cut means 12 pipes, a right cut means 8 pipes

Hope this sheds some light......... Now the chances of having a bad pipe go up
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post #42 of 210
4/17/05 at 3:19pm
Shoman we don't know this for sure yet. Who knows maybe it's oposite on mobility cards???
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post #43 of 210
4/17/05 at 3:24pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly313
Shoman we don't know this for sure yet. Who knows maybe it's oposite on mobility cards???

X800 Core



9800 Core


See
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post #44 of 210
4/17/05 at 3:40pm
yep, losing hope...
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post #45 of 210
4/17/05 at 3:46pm
If the two other vertex shaders are also bad.....then the card is fubard.

Can someone post pics of their ram from a newer 9800?

I'm starting to wonder why the X800se has never been unlocked. It is also a 8 piper..........
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post #46 of 210
4/17/05 at 4:23pm
Thread Starter 
If the jump is made with conductor pen it can still be erased by acetone according to http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....desc=asc&no=26 . All we need is a modified desktop bios, laser cut jumped card, and a contingency plan for a bios reversal and acetone to remove the jump (if needed). I am for one willing to chance this, but we need accurate modded bios. I plan to do this, and I obviously will run the card at low clock frequencies until I have modded the heat sink.
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post #47 of 210
4/17/05 at 4:23pm
supperfly, i have sent you those pictures twice now
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post #48 of 210
4/17/05 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by wardo
supperfly, i have sent you those pictures twice now
Send them to me shoman24v@yahoo.com
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post #49 of 210
4/17/05 at 5:00pm
My mr9800 has K4D55323QF-GC33 300MHz which will oc around 418MHz before artifacts. I also have 4 chips on top and bottom. I purchased in late nov early dec.
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post #50 of 210
4/17/05 at 7:12pm
maybe you guys arent getting them because these pictures are 2.3mb each. i dont think that yahoo ans hotmail can download files that big.
thanks for that info showman. here are the pictures. http://www.filecloud.com/user/files....egory_id=68247
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post #51 of 210
4/17/05 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by wardo
maybe you guys arent getting them because these pictures are 2.3mb each. i dont think that yahoo ans hotmail can download files that big
Dude lol your making it oh so difficult, go here http://www.filecloud.com/ sign up, they give you 100 megs of free space. Upload your picture (make sure they are set to public) and whatever the URL for the pic is copy it here using the image brackets. It's really not that difficult. You could even go a step further by opening the picures in paint, scale them smaller to save size.

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post #52 of 210
4/17/05 at 8:14pm
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post #53 of 210
4/17/05 at 8:38pm
Thread Starter 
Now all we have to do is connect the dots LOL! But seriously, we need to truly see this through every step of the way. This is not a lost cause. "Don't give up, never surrender" who quoted that anyways
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post #54 of 210
4/18/05 at 12:30pm
Is it just me or did anyone else invision "laser cutting" as a cool, precise burn line through the silicon? God I am so 1950's.
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post #55 of 210
4/18/05 at 4:52pm
when whack and i were attempting to do this, i emailed the mr9800 bios to w1zzard. he said the bios in its native form supports 16 pipes, but there are other values that restrict the available pipes. see this thread:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2024

for links to other forums which i've petitioned help for:

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=60851
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post #56 of 210
4/18/05 at 5:05pm
Thread Starter 
Hulk,

Did you or whac attempt to jump the laser cut as we've been discussing in this forum. I also noticed that in your forums there has been no recent updates, and I have not seen anything on jumping the laser cut on MR9800. I would also like to add that we might want to get XPS2 mobility X800 on board this project since it looks possible to open the mobility x800 pipes.
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post #57 of 210
4/18/05 at 5:18pm
Why are different pipes restricted in different 9800 cards? This makes me think that 9800 are defective x800 that have the defective pipes disabled. If that's the case, it would be pointless unlocking them.
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post #58 of 210
4/18/05 at 5:51pm
Thread Starter 
Why wouldn't people want to try and unlock their MR9800, especially if the pipes do work? We will never know until we actually try to jump the laser cut and load an accurate bios that will make it mobile with the full x800xt 16 pipes. It has the potential according to experts. We will never know until we try. If we don't try, we will be forced to submit to manufacturers for newer laptop. I for one shelled out enough money for the XPS, and am not complacently willing to loose a lot of money when we can crack this baby. If the pipes are defective, then at least we tried. I am willing to risk my card, but again I stress we must assuredly have a working bios capable of handling all the necessary differences from the desktop R420 and the mobile R420. I know the mobile has to support the onboard video for our lcds, and it has to handle the power differences (if any). There are obvious differences, but less we forget they are the same core R420. Plus on post #35 of this forum, the MR9800 registers 160 million transistors. On http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/2...n_9800-02.html the article states the MR9800 having 110 million transistors. There is a big difference of 50 million transistors. What does that tell you?
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post #59 of 210
4/18/05 at 6:13pm
I'm glad to see that this effort hasn't died. Thank you to all who are working on this. Myself and other 'non-technical' people will appreciate the hard work
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post #60 of 210
4/19/05 at 12:49pm
when whac took his m9800 apart, he never noticed the laser cut. thus we never considered messing around w/ that.

when w1zzard examined the "stock" m9800 bios, he determined that it supported 16 pipes and that the lock was somewhere else. we hypothesized it was done on some inaccessible rom... "hardware mask" were the buzzwords. we had hoped that a tool like rivatuner could go in and change the values, but we were mistaken.

did it work after doing the hardware mod? no bios flash should be required if w1zzard's analysis was correct. and so far i have no reason to doubt his competency.
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